OT: HFNYR Official Foodie Thread including Craft Beer, Wine & Liquor

Boris Zubov

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Arcaro’s is good, nice atmosphere too and Italian beer on tap, cannolis are huge haha

Revello’s across the street is decent

I like the double crust white from Colarusso’s Cafe in Avoca personally

Sabatini’s in Exeter is great as well
Sabatini's looks like a cool spot. Pizza looks very good...thin with plenty of sauce. I like the bottle shop attached...nothing better than pizza & beer.
 

ncdoc

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Well, you can see from the info on the side where I am currently living. But, I am a self-designated Niving outside Charlotte,ew York pizza snob. And while you can get some decent pizza here, it just doesn't compare to NY pizza. My mantra is pretty simple: if a place advertises New York pizza, it is best to run away as fast as you can. It's even worse when it comes to bagels (especially bagels) and Chinese food.

I've also been lucky to travel to Italy many times. Best pizza I've ever had? At the source in Naples. The thing about pizza in Italy is that it varies in style and preparation from region to region. I've had just amazing pizza in Sicily, Verona, and Rome among other places. I've also had some so-so pizza.

But New York pizza? Outside of Italy, it is by far the best.

I would agree, also living just outside Charlotte after growing u on the Island, but I have found a couple of shops where the owners came from NYC and make some great pizza. I don't the dough is the same (the water?) but well worth the taste.

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Ruggs225

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I would agree, also living just outside Charlotte after growing u on the Island, but I have found a couple of shops where the owners came from NYC and make some great pizza. I don't the dough is the same (the water?) but well worth the taste.

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My dad knew a guy who opened up a pizza shop outside of Charleston back in the 90’s and we ate there. His secret was he ordered the dough from NY so he can keep the taste like back home.
 
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Sabatini's looks like a cool spot. Pizza looks very good...thin with plenty of sauce. I like the bottle shop attached...nothing better than pizza & beer.
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UnparalledPark

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There is no Hartford Style...I think you mean New Haven? And I'd agree...it's overrated because one particular dude, with a ton of influence & a huge following, labeled it the pizza capital of the world.

Detroit is just a trendy name for Sicilian with a thicker crust & ton of meat piled on it. St Louis pizza uses provolone mixed with mozzarella with the worst crust known to man...they should stick to fried ravioli. Chicago style is not pizza...cheese casserole sure, pizza it is not.

I had pizza in Chicago 45 years ago. I’m still chewing it.
 

alkurtz

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I would agree, also living just outside Charlotte after growing u on the Island, but I have found a couple of shops where the owners came from NYC and make some great pizza. I don't the dough is the same (the water?) but well worth the taste.

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Had a conversation with a cashier at Publix's the other day. She saw that I had purchased some bagels and she asked my what I thought of them. My reaction was "meh." She agreed, she was originally from Brooklyn, grew up on the Island, before moving to Charlotte. A new bagel shop opened recently nearby in Mint Hill that advertises themselves as NY bagels. The letters on their sign mimic NY subway letters. We also agreed that, no those also were not NY bagels and, of course, we both agreed that it was the water that made all the difference.

Yes, one of the pizza places that has Ok pizza has an owner from Brooklyn, we were actually told about this place before we moved here from the northern suburbs (I grew up and spent my entire working career in the Bronx: I worked not far from Little Italy on Arthur Avenue). But you need to ask for the crust to be a little on the well done side. For me, the crust makes all the difference.
 
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Had a conversation with a cashier at Publix's the other day. She saw that I had purchased some bagels and she asked my what I thought of them. My reaction was "meh." She agreed, she was originally from Brooklyn, grew up on the Island, before moving to Charlotte. A new bagel shop opened recently nearby in Mint Hill that advertises themselves as NY bagels. The letters on their sign mimic NY subway letters. We also agreed that, no those also were not NY bagels and, of course, we both agreed that it was the water that made all the difference.

Yes, one of the pizza places that has Ok pizza has an owner from Brooklyn, we were actually told about this place before we moved here from the northern suburbs (I grew up and spent my entire working career in the Bronx: I worked not far from Little Italy on Arthur Avenue). But you need to ask for the crust to be a little on the well done side. For me, the crust makes all the difference.
It is way more than just the water.

 

NickyFotiu

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Dude I live in Los Angeles temporarily. You don't know how bad the pizza is here. NY has its pizza shit together.

Never ever call it overrated.



That's a good point.
Maybe California is horrible but not all other places. Ive had good pizza in NY, Vegas, Texas, and Florida.
 

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I lived half my life in NY and half outside NY. I have found there is good and bad pizza in many locations. I'm not talking about a style of pizza (like thin vs thick). I'm saying there is good and bad thin cheese pizza in NY and other places as well. Some will disagree but I just do not think NY Pizza is that earth shattering. Just like cheese steaks. You don't need to be in Philly to get a great cheesesteak. The food I have found significantly better in NY was Chinese food. I would rate NY Chinese food a 10.
Growing up in NYC, pizza was pretty good. Then the city (and real estate in particular) got stupid, and most of the good pizza places either closed or charge $5 a slice, meanwhile the shitty places we used to reject as kids are still open. Makes no sense. Where I am now is a similarly mixed bag. We have a go to place that's very good, and a place that does Italian/brick oven style also...yet somehow people go gaga on the internet over an overrated local place with an admittedly very nice staff that puts entirely too much garlic on their pizza, has gimmicky slices, and doesn't have their tomato sauce/tomato paste ratios in balane for their sauce.

I haven't sent foot in the city in a few years now for pizza (and don't really desire to), but NYC Pizza has a well deserved reputation as good that frankly the businesses that call themselves pizza parlors in NYC simply are not living up to. There is too much crap, and the influx of people from pizza deserts like California who think paper thin "dollar slices" are a good value, who think crap drowned in 50 toppings and named after a celebrity are "trendy," and who wouldn't know a good slice if it punched the mediocre slice they were eating in the face and jumped down the person's throat for a taste - are entirely the problem.

Pizza in general is a mixed bag for me. I *LIKE* "NY style" but also enjoy Chicago style and New Haven style. Don't give a rat's ass about pizza with pineapples on it, though. There are good pizza places around the country, you just have to be more selective. Worst pizza I ever had was in Delaware. I lived in Rhode Island for a few years, and there were some hidden gems, but you had to know where to look. There was also lots of terrible pizza largely supported by drunk college kids and poor inner city slums where people have never left the state. Randomly had good pizza in Texas once, but cannot for the life of me remember where it was.

Domino's and Pizza Hut are their own category...aka you don't order pizza from Domino's, you order "Domino's" from Domino's.

If you have to dip pizza in ranch or blue cheese to enjoy it, or drown it in toppings, you're doing it wrong.

Two Boots is the worst f***ing "NY Style" pizza place on the planet and I hope every last one of them goes bankrupt.

This has been my random musings on pizza.
 
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As I've mentioned before, from Upstate (which is really more Central NY imo but for another day)... Broome County has fantastic food, let alone probably best pizza (outside of NYC) and wings. I'd put it up against anywhere in the country, especially area our size.
 
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I agree and disagree. There is certainly bad pizza in NY and there is good pizza outside of Ny as well. however, I do think it is much harder to find good pizza out of NY, or chicago. Like Pizza in Cali was awful in most places i went to.

Bagels are a whole different story. Bagels are seriously better in NY and same with Chinese food.

If i want good Mexican food, u cant beat Texas.
Everything in California is terrible. Been twice, their food is awful. They pride themselves on Mexican food but Texas Mexican is way better.

BBQ Texas is tops. There's a place not far from me that does Texas Style (in NY and it's amazing) - one of the owners is actually from Texas and 100% legit. NY BBQ is generally pretty pathetic though, brought to you by the people who think "Dallas BBQ" is actual BBQ. Someday I'd love to learn how to do it right, but if I'm going to do that, I'm going to invest in actual good smoker and not one of those cheap Chinese made ones that litter the aisles of the big box stores.
 

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1. Agree on New Haven style. Same goes for ‘California style’.
2. Detroit style is significantly different from Sicilian style
3. St. Louis pizza is love it or hate it (I love it), but yes, significantly different from most other pizza.
4. Tend to agree on Chicago style, but I enjoy it.

New York style pizza probably my third favorite, after St. Louis and Detroit.
like me you're also from bk - cool.

what do you think of these pizza joints?
delmar in sheepshead bay
l&b spumoni
ciccio's
joe's in manhattan carmine st location
suprema pizza 2 blocks from msg
 
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NickyFotiu

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Everything in California is terrible. Been twice, their food is awful. They pride themselves on Mexican food but Texas Mexican is way better.

BBQ Texas is tops. There's a place not far from me that does Texas Style (in NY and it's amazing) - one of the owners is actually from Texas and 100% legit. NY BBQ is generally pretty pathetic though, brought to you by the people who think "Dallas BBQ" is actual BBQ. Someday I'd love to learn how to do it right, but if I'm going to do that, I'm going to invest in actual good smoker and not one of those cheap Chinese made ones that litter the aisles of the big box stores.
Line at Salt Lick BBQ outside Austin is 200 long at 11am on Saturdays :)
 

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Everything in California is terrible. Been twice, their food is awful. They pride themselves on Mexican food but Texas Mexican is way better.

BBQ Texas is tops. There's a place not far from me that does Texas Style (in NY and it's amazing) - one of the owners is actually from Texas and 100% legit. NY BBQ is generally pretty pathetic though, brought to you by the people who think "Dallas BBQ" is actual BBQ. Someday I'd love to learn how to do it right, but if I'm going to do that, I'm going to invest in actual good smoker and not one of those cheap Chinese made ones that litter the aisles of the big box stores.

Details.

I've had BBQ in one place in NY that I've liked and that was out in Red Hook (Hometown BBQ)
 

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