Prospect Info: Hershey Bears/South Carolina Stingrays 2022-2023 Vol. 1

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Strawberry Fields

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It's the evening for annoying people. They are all around me. Surprisingly decent game so far.
I got to meet the HoFers during the intermission so that was cool, especially Freddie and Aucoin, both of whom I grew up watching here (yes, I'm outing myself as young). Also ran into Mitch Lamoureux twice; I've never seen him around the concourse once before tonight in almost 20 years of coming to games.

The game is good so far, but unfortunately we know a lead is never safe with this team, lol. Want to see a couple more goals to blow it open.
 
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Strawberry Fields

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What is the ranking on the D core side for Hershey these days.
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This was with Iorio and Johansen out hurt and Carlsson still up in the NHL.
 
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Teams know the Bears don't play a full 60 minutes (hell, even a full 30 minutes) so all they have to do is wait. Easiest way to beat Hershey might actually be to go in a hole early, knowing Hershey will stop playing. I'm not sure it's a coaching thing either. It seems like this is a common occurrence, year after year.

A secondary issue, as I see it, is that neither Zack nor Hunter can steal a game. When the team stops playing, the goaltending falls off, too. No matter what others might say about the NHL level, both Pheonix and VV could steal a game at the AHL level. Not saying the current two are bad by any stretch, but they aren't stealing games, either.
 
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Can you imagine the board if the caps were doing that?
I mean it’s notably hard to deliver a full 60 in hockey at top performance, and the Caps core has always had a problem getting up for games. Back to the Young Guns, we would get bailed out by our superior skill late in games quite a bit.

I just know some were calling for this guy to be promoted, so I wonder about him if he’s having these issues with the team effort night in night out.
 

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I really don't know what's at the heart of the issue. It almost seems like a culture thing, as it goes back at least to Carbery's time in Hershey. The team just doesn't always show up for weeknight games, and they don't / can't put teams away. Maybe Strawberry or HB11x sees it differently or has some other ideas.

Also of note, the Facebook hockey experts want to send all the skilled guys to DC so the grit guys can play. Apparently the Bears would have won last night if Gersich was playing.
 
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Strawberry Fields

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I really don't know what's at the heart of the issue. It almost seems like a culture thing, as it goes back at least to Carbery's time in Hershey. The team just doesn't always show up for weeknight games, and they don't / can't put teams away. Maybe Strawberry or HB11x sees it differently or has some other ideas.

Also of note, the Facebook hockey experts want to send all the skilled guys to DC so the grit guys can play. Apparently the Bears would have won last night if Gersich was playing.
I really don't have any answers, lol. My dad always asks me, "what do you think is their problem?" or "I can't put my finger on it, but they're missing something." Both of us are kind of at a loss every time. They definitely have the talent to dominate. You're absolutely correct that it's not a new issue. They do have several players who have been here for four or five years, I'm not laying the blame all at their feet but I do wonder if maybe they'd benefit from some new blood in the room and on the ice next year. Obviously rebuilding isn't really a thing in the AHL and it's not like they have a bunch of Caps prospects immediately incoming next season, so there's really no perfect solution beyond shaking up some of the vets. Even if the Caps are really starting their downward spiral and start accumulating more picks like they started to at the deadline, the Bears wouldn't reap many benefits from that for a few years at least. Even the 2022 picks (it looks like there were some solid ones) probably won't turn pro for another couple seasons besides Hofer (or at least I'm assuming). If they can dig up another Frank or two or pick up a solid prospect or two in any hypothetical further moves the Caps make this summer, that'll do for the time being, lol.

It's never fair to compare to the 2010 dream team, but I was rewatching highlights of some of their regular season games a couple months ago and it was night and day from today's team. They built big leads and I couldn't help but notice they rarely let up and did a lot of damage in the last half of the third period. I really do miss those 2005-2010 teams because it seemed like they were rarely out of a game. If they had a lead, you believed they'd hold it. If they were behind, you believed they had a chance of coming back. I wish I had more faith in this team but I just haven't seen much that convinces me they have what it takes to make a deep run. They SHOULD with the talent and depth they have, but I haven't seen much consistency and we're about 90% into the season, so I doubt it's going to magically click all of a sudden.
 

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A secondary issue, as I see it, is that neither Zack nor Hunter can steal a game. When the team stops playing, the goaltending falls off, too. No matter what others might say about the NHL level, both Pheonix and VV could steal a game at the AHL level. Not saying the current two are bad by any stretch, but they aren't stealing games, either.
I'll add my two cents. I don't think they've gotten much help most of the new year. Hard to steal many games when your offense is only giving you one or two goals a game for long stretches. Lots of their losses have been one or two goals with minimal offensive input from their own side. Shep had that bad stinker in Providence the other week where he got pulled in the first period but every goalie has some bad ones every now and then. He's cooled off since his hot start (probably been properly scouted by now), but, like you said, he's not bad by any stretch. Fucale had two utterly abysmal games in the stretch of a week back in December but has largely gotten himself together since then imo. At least they seem to have been having better outcomes in front of him recently. I don't trust them to the extent I did Freddie Cassivi and Neuvy back in the day, but I'd believe in either goalie to lead the team to a championship if the guys in front of them could string together some more complete outings.
 

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Sorry for all the long rambling posts- I don't have that much insight but I do have a lot of thoughts about the team and really nowhere else to share them, lol. I figure it's better to break them up a little than leave one long word salad.

One more piece about tonight- Anas was out again. I didn't listen or watch tonight so I'm not sure if he's hurt again or sick or what. He has two goals in three games since returning so I can't imagine it's performance related. Hopefully it's nothing major because they can use his offense. Julian Napravnik slotted in his spot on the second line and I'm wondering if maybe we should let him in the lineup for a bit. He has three goals and an assist in his last three games. After putting up three points in two games in Allentown last week he was put on nacho duty for the two following games before tonight. Maybe he's just on a heater but it's interesting to see what he could be capable of when he's not saddled next to guys Kessy and (as solid as he is in a depth role, the man has hands of absolute stone) Sutter.
 
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What is Clay S.'s situation at this point. I recall he as injured but not much sense.
He was called up to Hershey at the beginning of the week after Fucale was called up to the Caps. Since Fucale was sent back down a couple days later, so was Stevenson; he wasn't up long enough to even dress and back up. I have to imagine at least one of Fucale or Shepard leave in the summer (both are UFAs) so you'd think he *should* get a shot to stick in Hershey full time next year. He was very good in his three games in December and has done well in SC by the looks of it.
 
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