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DontgoZiggy said:
I'd prefer seeing the meltdown if we won the draft lottery and got Mcdavid, that would be hilarious
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That would be greater then the fact we would be drafting McDavid.

Could you imagine how angry all those fans in Buffalo would be... And that one guy who roots for the Coyotes.
 
A long off-season is what the Kings need. If you can't beat Edmonton in a must-win game you don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
 
Minneosta :facepalm:
St.Louis :facepalm:
Los Angeles :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Well, it's over. Calgary wins against the 2nd worst team in the league. We lose to the 3rd worst team in the league. We don't deserve it, it's as easy as that.
The playoffs will be without us. At least they can stop crushing my hopes now. The only good thing left is that on Sat at least one between Calgary and Winnipeg won't get 2 pts...

Now let's draft someone good at 13th, make some roster changes (buying out 10-goals-for-6-millions-man Dustin Brown won't happen at 99%, but hey a man can dream), get some rest over the summer, and take another run at the Cup next year!


PS: When Pouliot was coming down the right wing for their 2nd goal, was I the only thinking "stick side high, stick side high, stick side high"?? It was an EXACT copy of his goal in game 1 or 2 of the Cup final.
 
CTKingsFan said:
That would be greater then the fact we would be drafting McDavid.

Could you imagine how angry all those fans in Buffalo would be... And that one guy who roots for the Coyotes.
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I don't care about Buffalo or Arizona, but I'd love to see the the haters disappointed (those nhl.com-message-board-heroes that always comment "great job Calgary, kick them out of the playoffs" and get 20 thumbs up etc.). And I'm not talking about Sharks/Ducks fans but about those wannabe-funny haters in general.
 
MsWoof said:
A long off-season is what the Kings need. If you can't beat Edmonton in a must-win game you don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Not even the win or loss. It's the lackadaisical play. Look at the two goals they managed to score. A bad bounce off the boards behind the net, and a shot from center ice. Both on the PP, nothing at ES.
 
by the 3rd period i was laughing and shaking my head. this has become comical. the SC champion ****s the bed and won't make the PO's.

this is what happens when you take half the season off and continue to rely on 'flipping the switch' and the 'accountability in the room'....its meaningless now

this gives DL the green light now to overhaul the roster and move away from players, regardless of status.

the team needs a much higher level sense of urgency than it has
 
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on the bright side, no more MUST WIN arguments

i think now some know what we meant by "must win"

if you don't want to rely on miracles to qualify...then yeah, some games earlier in the season are must wins; it's called foresight
 
The games are now playoff games that count. It is very very hard for a 2 time Cup champ to get going for regular season games. Doughty will take over from here on in. 2 blowouts coming up. Kings will take down Canucks in 4 games. Then real playoff hockey starts again.
 
Ducks fan here….. no matter what the outcome of the 2014/2015 LA Kings season brings…. The Kings have an EXCEPTIONAL RUN since 2012…. Major Props to them… CONGRATS on the TWO :stanley::stanley:
 
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Would love to see what Lombardi says. I swear the Kings coverage has been awful. The Kings haven't been getting help from teams all year, do you really think they will now? Need Winnipeg to beat Calgary Saturday and the Kings need to win tomorrow and Saturday. Very difficult road.
 
damacles1156 said:
Big money and contract length should only be going to players that will be locked up in their prime production years(23 to 28).

The Cap has changed the NHL. So guys like Toffoli in the future going forward, should receive the bulk of the cap space and contract length.

Not players entering their 30's. Lombardi has to change a little, from his old school mentality.

A perfect example is Kopitar's second contract, that was the correct move, the Kings got Kopitar at a good price for all of his prime production years. Same with Doughty.

If Lombardi is smart (like I think he is) he will purchase at least two years of Toffoli's UFA window.
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I would think if he were gonna buy any FA years, he would buy a ton and sign him for 7-8 years, or go the Pearson route and Just two.
 
No Team Needed said:
Feels like game three against the Sharks in here...
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Heh. I pulled up the PGT after game 3 and it's a carbon copy.

It would be "That's so Kings" to win Thursday and win Saturday. Of course that also requires the Jets to lay an egg vs. Colorado.

Who knows... the team has done the almost impossible before. They can certainly swing the improbable.
 
rmarion said:
Ducks fan here….. no matter what the outcome of the 2014/2015 LA Kings season brings…. The Kings have an EXCEPTIONAL RUN since 2012…. Major Props to them… CONGRATS on the TWO :stanley::stanley:
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ahhh..come on, we're supposed to hate each other
 
Well, there's a reason why it's so difficult to repeat. Each off-season, we thought the team was prepared to defend the title. But each season, unexpected personnel losses have happened, but that's hockey. Slava missing the entire season, basically. Other defenders missing time due to injury, making it even worse. Our trade acquisition having his knee injured. Pearson breaking his leg. 3 of our centers underperforming: Kopitar with a bad all-around season for him, Stoll falling off a cliff and Richards straight up getting put on waivers. After all that, this team could still finish with 97 points and not get in. But as someone else has said in this thread, it feels like an 80 point season, as ridiculous as that sounds. The reality isn't as bad as it feels, that's for sure. But some tweaking will definitely need to be done in the off-season.
 
You can talk about Corsi until you're blue in the face, when all it does it lead to good defense and not good offense, you have to assess your personnel. Kings strength WAS their center depth...Thanks to Stoll and Richards it's a weakness now.

Offense from Defense is important for teams that lack lower line offense. Kings didn't get enough. Their D scored 34 goals in 479 man games was average at best. Should have been more like 45 goals and with a skill player like Doughty getting that much ice time, 7 goals is about half of what he should have scored (and lets face it, his 7th goal was a gift, not a goal).

Cap issues kept the Kings from getting some offense at the deadline and getting O from the D was imperative and they didn't get it. Blah Blah Blah Voynov...Martinez injury...yadda yadda yadda...doesn't matter you have to find a way and McBain would have helped the Kings get more from the blue line offensively and he should have been worked in more often.

Bottom line: When the Kings score 3 goals in a game they're 31-3-6 and they've won 16 straight. I think the problem is clear. Score a little more, fewer games go to OT and the Kings win a few more games and make the playoffs.
 
Face Wash said:
You can talk about Corsi until you're blue in the face, when all it does it lead to good defense and not good offense, you have to assess your personnel. Kings strength WAS their center depth...Thanks to Stoll and Richards it's a weakness now.

Offense from Defense is important for teams that lack lower line offense. Kings didn't get enough. Their D scored 34 goals in 479 man games was average at best. Should have been more like 45 goals and with a skill player like Doughty getting that much ice time, 7 goals is about half of what he should have scored (and lets face it, his 7th goal was a gift, not a goal).

Cap issues kept the Kings from getting some offense at the deadline and getting O from the D was imperative and they didn't get it. Blah Blah Blah Voynov...Martinez injury...yadda yadda yadda...doesn't matter you have to find a way and McBain would have helped the Kings get more from the blue line offensively and he should have been worked in more often.

Bottom line: When the Kings score 3 goals in a game they're 31-3-6 and they've won 16 straight. I think the problem is clear. Score a little more, fewer games go to OT and the Kings win a few more games and make the playoffs.
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So if I boil this down, "It's a 3-2 league." Buy yeah, I agree with what you have said.
 
Face Wash said:
You can talk about Corsi until you're blue in the face, when all it does it lead to good defense and not good offense, you have to assess your personnel. Kings strength WAS their center depth...Thanks to Stoll and Richards it's a weakness now.

Offense from Defense is important for teams that lack lower line offense. Kings didn't get enough. Their D scored 34 goals in 479 man games was average at best. Should have been more like 45 goals and with a skill player like Doughty getting that much ice time, 7 goals is about half of what he should have scored (and lets face it, his 7th goal was a gift, not a goal).

Cap issues kept the Kings from getting some offense at the deadline and getting O from the D was imperative and they didn't get it. Blah Blah Blah Voynov...Martinez injury...yadda yadda yadda...doesn't matter you have to find a way and McBain would have helped the Kings get more from the blue line offensively and he should have been worked in more often.

Bottom line: When the Kings score 3 goals in a game they're 31-3-6 and they've won 16 straight. I think the problem is clear. Score a little more, fewer games go to OT and the Kings win a few more games and make the playoffs.
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I think you have it pretty much sorted out. Great post and absolutely keeps the debate moving in a more forward thinking position. Great post. I mean you can add in the fact that our D pressure system makes it more difficult to create offensive flow but that only goes back to your point about our assessing our system and fixing the needs that present themselves.
 
KINGS17 said:
So if I boil this down, "It's a 3-2 league." Buy yeah, I agree with what you have said.
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For the Kings they played 12 games that were 3-2 out of 80. It was probably the most common score but if 15% of your games makes it 3-2 league....
 
Hank Plank said:
Probabilities are not stupid in fact it is inevitable they even out.
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Wrong.

Every coinflip/roll of the dice/whatever probability metaphor you want to use is COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY INDEPENDENT of every other event before it.

It is LIKELY that probabilities even out. More likely the longer the time horizon.

But by definition, NOT "inevitable".
 
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