DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
If I had to take a guess, it's either waiving his NMC and finding him a team to go to, or a buyout.
Player Discussion Henrik Lundqvist: Part II
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while it might be unavoidable, ending his career with a buyout is the last thing that comes to my mind in terms of 'handle things the right way'
Doing it the right way, would mean giving Hank a proper final season of his contract and in having him be the backup would allow him to go out and technically have one more shot at a cup.
This also means trading Georgiev.
However, it could also mean if Henrik chooses retirement, they put on a nice press conference the way Richter did (different circumstances obviously) but it would be done in a classy way as is how the organization is known to do things.
The other wild card is him moving his NMC and accepting a trade to another team who is willing sign him at a big discount (Rangers retaining a good portion of his salary)
A buyout I just don't see happening...
This also means trading Georgiev.
However, it could also mean if Henrik chooses retirement, they put on a nice press conference the way Richter did (different circumstances obviously) but it would be done in a classy way as is how the organization is known to do things.
The other wild card is him moving his NMC and accepting a trade to another team who is willing sign him at a big discount (Rangers retaining a good portion of his salary)
A buyout I just don't see happening...
Chimpradamus
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I'm talking about the heart of the team, not the team in itself. But sure, if you want to be as shallow as submitting to a symbol regardless of what, go ahead. It's culture we're talking about here, is it not? You have your choice to make, I have mine. I won't judge you for yours. I've spoken about crucial decisions here that you seemingly ignore. If you don't understand the meaning of this, still, I'm not judging you.
Do you realize a buyout will cost the Rangers far more at this state then to allow Lundqvis to play his contract out? Have you seen the penalties of a buyout? Jesus... even if I speak of a core soul of a team, I still know more of the economics as well and you want to argue it's a poor decision to not buy him out? Or what? Not keeping Georgiev? NYR has had 10 Georgievs while Lundqvist was #1. But this time because he isn't savint the team, you want to do what? Pressure him, bully him out? How honorary. Just like New York, right? You're old? Go die in the gutter. Great team culture.
Speaking of having this grand opportunity of winning the Cup next year by throwing Lundqvist under the bus, exactly what accomplishments do you think you will have made with this decision? It's far deeper than you seem to contemplate.
Meaning what? You have to explain a bit further for me to grasp even the basics of what you mean by this statement.
Oh, yes, $8.5m as a backup to a goalie that has the hope of being the next Messias. Such a monetary waste on the Rangers. Because albatross contracts aren't a staple to NYR contract culture and has been for decades. The retirement home just north of Florida. The fading big names selling tickets. But this time, when it's a HHOF goalie, it's not fine retiring him, it's only fine buying him out, for another Georgiev, Talbot, etc. How fitting for this hockey franchise having that mindset. The mindset with a hope of a future that is doomed to fail every time you think that way.
I have a question for you all who think I'm out of my mind for wanting NYR to allow Lundqvist to retire a NYR: The team seeing Lundqvist being treated like the plague, just like Leetch was. What do you think the impression in the locker room culture will be? A team worth fighting for? Go back to Wall Street and continue hiring your entertaining mercenaries who will never win a Cup, while you only care about yourself. Great team, right? But there is no team in I. Good luck finding legends ever wanting to retire as a Ranger, if not they are overpaid.
Detroit became a dynasty because they didn't think like a big money team like the New York Rangers management, nor the Toronto Maple Leafs. Ever wondered why rich asshole teams never win?
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Handle things the right way makes it sound like hes retiring and they'll keep it under wraps until hes ready to come out and be public with it.
Would be nice if we could get a 2 for 1 with him and Staal.
Would be nice if we could get a 2 for 1 with him and Staal.
Rangers394
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I'm allowed to think what i want. I don't run the team nor control it. I root for it and that's it. If Hank stays, cool. If he retires, cool. I really don't care what he does at the end of the day. I was simply telling you what the issue is so if you want to take it that way, be my quest.
was only replying to my part btw
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the buyout is less than the cost of the contract. There is so much to fix in your original post and responses that if this were a car it would be considered totaled.
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with all the operating income the Garden has, why not circumvent the system? Hank, retire to take the cash off the Rangers books and we’ll give you a job Title worth the sum of your remaining contract. We might have to space it out a few years but you get your money.
How hard is it?
Handle it the right way just means being up front and being transparent with what you want to do.
hank do you want to retire we’ll give you a special night Jersey retirement and a cozy special advisor paycheck.
hank do you want to be bought out and try and pick a place to play? We can do that as well and get you that special night jersey retirement and when you’re ready you come home we’ll get you a job with the org.
hank we can try and trade you before the buyout window closes we won’t ask for anything back just can’t take money on. Obviously if we can’t find a taker we have to look at the first two options.
So hank which would road would you like to take? We love you but there is no road that leads back to playing here next year.
hank do you want to retire we’ll give you a special night Jersey retirement and a cozy special advisor paycheck.
hank do you want to be bought out and try and pick a place to play? We can do that as well and get you that special night jersey retirement and when you’re ready you come home we’ll get you a job with the org.
hank we can try and trade you before the buyout window closes we won’t ask for anything back just can’t take money on. Obviously if we can’t find a taker we have to look at the first two options.
So hank which would road would you like to take? We love you but there is no road that leads back to playing here next year.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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This team has thrown away far greater players than Henrik Lundqvist. He’s a HOF goalie but he’s done and is just eating cap space at this point. We should get rid of that cap space being eaten up at all costs, whether it’s attached to a legend or not.
Chimpradamus
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You're right, like a true New Yorker! I checked it up. NYR earns a couple of million from buying him out! I apologize for brazing I had knowledge of the matter of economics, that was dumb. I am also so proud I was corrected by a New York Rangers fan in an economical matter, when economics is the last part of winning a Cup. Especially when looking at the next quarter.the buyout is less than the cost of the contract. There is so much to fix in your original post and responses that if this were a car it would be considered totaled.
Next quarter of the year: We earn money!
Downside: The locker room soul has been killed and the Leetch morale killer is repeated. Good luck winning a Cup! Bwaahahahaha! I believe civilization will end before Toronto or NYR will win a cup again. And that's only logic. By being such assholes to the core, you will never have the players with the will power to win it all, apart from the incompetence that has mostly been rooted out, for now. Because deep down the players are strongly reminded they are merely bovine or money cattle and they will feel it.
That's why it's such a sad disgrace this great sport was so dominated and mutilated by the entertainment industry, communist complex of the NHL. f***ing garbage league. So fake. So cynical. So plastic. So far apart from the meaning of a sport.
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Wow this thread went off the rails on the crazy train real quick
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Amazing Kreiderman
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RETIRING IS NOT A BUY OUT!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus f***ing Christ. There is no cap penalty when Lundqvist RETIRES! Which is what I was talking about.
I'm done. You just don't want to understand.
Chimpradamus
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That depends what you want the outcome to be. Maximum economy? It's screwed, all the lower level artificial jobs will always be devastated, no matter which strategy. Hence why the upper class took this opportunity of robbing the lower and middle class even more, in a debt not even them can pay, ever. It's the classic move to do in a crisis. Grab more power while the society is in panic and there will be no objection. Does "perpetrual war against terror (where war creates more terror)" ring any bells? No one objected. Or the 2008 crash, huge bonus for the rich. More homeless middle class.
This era is already over, but they will try to mask it to the very end to fill even more rooms with gold they don't know how to spend. Because they can't help themselves.
As for the crucial jobs, they will never stop, ever. As for the number of deaths, this is nothing, historically. When we reach 3.5 billion dead, we reach historical levels of bad. This is nothing. It's a strong flu, nothing more. It's only so dangerous because this plastic, global economy is so extremely fragile in every corner and constructed as such. There is no intention of actual, societal comfort. Only "cheap" buyouts at the expense of the peasants, as always.
As for the correct strategy in this circus, it depends on the country. If you have high levels of civility, you can have more liberal approaches to the pandemic. If you have a country filled with uneducated rebels, you need harsher methods for a longer time. In the end, this should've been nothing. Isolation long enough and the societal methods and stocks to deal with it. But since we live for the next quarter, total panic. It's all wrong from the very start. Our integral purpose as a human being is already wrong.
As for the greatest treason the US government made against the public was, they should've frozen all mortgages and bills instead of giving the public crumbs to pay back to the banks, while still defaulting.
A society you can trust in should have stability and be sustainable in its core for at least 7 generations. I speak of logic and not economy, however. This "society" treats logic as a diploma and will always fail at every stutter and step, until it falls. Again.
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Not sure if anyone heard JD on Michael Kay a little while ago but he made an interesting slip. When LaGreca asked about Hank, JD said "I talked to him after Toronto, and it was a decision... I mean discussion..."
Obviously could be nothing, but when combined with the other comments made me think that a decision has been made to be announced at some point in the future.
Obviously could be nothing, but when combined with the other comments made me think that a decision has been made to be announced at some point in the future.
Chimpradamus
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He won't retire. Get that through your head. Who do you think you're discussing here? And if you're right, I will have to at least post an eating crow picture.
You're welcome to be entertained for the evening. You might even gasp by how outrageous I am!
haohmaru
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Lundqvist thread. Solely a Lundqvist decision.
"It's not about Lundqvist"
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Rangers394
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Maybe you should try to relax man, it's not that serious. At the end of the day, it's a business and everyone knows it, especially the players. They make enough money so they will be fine.
If our current players keep losing because of what happened with Leetch 15-16 years ago, then they don't deserve to be here to begin with. I think you're blowing this out of proportion just a bit.
Rangers394
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Can we stick to hockey and not get into this political garbage in a Hank thread?
I love Hank but I’m not trading AG just so Hank can have a proper send off. If somebody offers us a great deal I would consider it but it doesn’t sound like the Rangers are that interested in trading him just to keep Hank here
I know I have the rep as a Hank hater but it's upsetting that we have the most talent this organization has seen since at least 1994 and Hank won't be a part of that.
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