Post-Game Talk: Helmet toss

[Filip Chytil]

LOL they cut away from his comment when he paused

This is what they cut away from at the 0:27 mark

 

[Brutananadilewski]

He was a big part of the leadership group.

This team is playing as when it was known Zucc was getting traded.... everyone moping about

They're just showing up for the paycheck at this point

This is where you need a coach to spit a little fire, or HOLD PLAYERS ACCOUNTABLE!

Of the millionaire club, I think Kreider was the only one demoted...for a game or two.

Have Panarin in the press box for a week, and take Mika off of both PPs. Put his ass on the 3rd.

If that still doesn't light a spark, then we truly are proper f***ed.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Done with the team until the new year. It needs to happen - I’m at the “actively rooting for our guys to get injured” point of my grieving and it’s not healthy.

I will say - 2020-21 was the worst season I can remember in a long time for this team. While we might not be there in absolute terms this year (our GM hasn’t been fired, yet) I think in relative terms it’s just as bad.

We legit had a one year window. It’s something only this franchise could cook up.

I'd say post-lockout (2005-06) the worst season was probably 2009-10 because the talent on that team was pretty bad, but most of 2012-13 and the entire 2020-21 were bad like a two way tie for second.

The later two were shortened seasons so not as painful.

Most of the 2013-14 season was trash too, people forget that. They were bad that year up until the New Year and once they got Carcillo, Dominic Moore shook of the rust, and the Del Z for Klein trade happened, they slowly started shifting. But that team had dude performances even into April.

 

[gabevh3]

Did anyone else hear Joe talking about how GG was frustrated that the first unit soaks up all of that time? Like bro, you are the coach. You control ice time. That’s what you do.

Must be nice to get paid to basically be a window dressing.

 

[JRinNYC]

What happened in Boston?

Boston signing Mitch Miller fiasco.

 

[Boris Zubov]

What happened in Boston?

Those idiots signed that Mitchell Miller scumbag on a Friday at 5pm hoping to avoid the backlash. Cut him before the weekend ended because of the shit storm it stirred up.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Did he bite his tongue in critiquing players or coaching?

Yes.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I know some once great players don't make good coaches but I would like to see Messier get a shot. It really can't get any worse.

 

[bleedblue94]

Focusing on Laf is just stupid at this point. Even if he looks like shit, we have way bigger problems right now. Let's focus on Laf when the rest of team is doing fine, ok?

The fact people focus on laf is part of why he is struggling. Laffy is like the 8th best player on this team yet he carries the burdens of the struggle which is part of the entire issue here. No accountability at the top, slot it to the middle peeps

 

[Machinehead]

We will never know unless they do what needs to be done. Can it really get any worse? They have lost to all the shit teams and have blown multiple goal leads more than a few times this year.

They can't do what needs to be done.

What needs to be done is Dolan sells the team and the new owner gets rid of the jar with with Sather's brain in it, hooked up to the machine that gives Drury instructions in Morse code.

Call it a tinfoil hat theory but I believe the intention to actually rebuild and make sweeping change was legitimate when the letter went out.

It lasted through 18-19, Dolan saw session ticket renewals, and that was that. They immediately were buyers that summer and got Panarin and Trouba.

Not a single significant roster piece was unloaded after Hayes. Other than getting lucky in the lottery (we had a winning record the year we got Laf) nothing changed.

Then the guy who penned the letter and his president were suddenly gone.

The rebuild never happened. Dolan squashed it like he's a done a dozen times with the Knicks.

 

[Crease]

I know trotz is the one everyone is clamouring for but I'm all reality what are the alternative choices?

Knoblauch or Drury himself. Tocchet and Tippett’s names always seem to come up. Messier or Lundqvist are distant possibilities.

 

[MrAlmost]

Some guys don't want the coaching lifestyle. Vally has a great gig and he is able to pursue his other projects as well.

Yeah you're right. But he is just such a good blend of analytical knowledge and the feel of the game. He doesn't let either cloud his judgment and makes great analysis while also knowing sometimes you just gotta get out there and f***ing bang. If they reprimand him for his comments tonight I will be very upset.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I know some once great players don't make good coaches but I would like to see Messier get a shot. It really can't get any worse.

Messier hasn't coached since the Egon Spengler Cup when Nik Zherdev was on the Rangers or close to it.

 

[UnSandvich]

Start scratching the vets. Give Trouba a couple games to recuperate. Hell, reverse the line TOI's for all i care. If Gallant isn't willing to send a message, then fire him.

This team should not be closer to Connor Bedard than a Cup, not after the promise of last season.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I know some once great players don't make good coaches but I would like to see Messier get a shot. It really can't get any worse.

I think the fact he hasn't gotten a shot somewhere by now may be a warning, from what i heard he was unwilling to take an AHL job or an assistant job, something you'd assume he'd have to do (i know, St.Louis).

 

[Rangers in 7]

He brings absolutely nothing to the table. Jimmy Vesey gets more ice time because Jimmy Vesey is capable of actually making hockey plays at an NHL level more often than once in a blue moon. Do you really think forcing Kakko and Lafreniere out for a couple more shifts is really going to make a big difference? It's comical. The guy carries the puck into the zone, pulls up and then gets attacked by the boards and loses the puck with no one within a few feet of him.

Yes I do, actually it definitely would.

 

[duhmetreE]

Those idiots signed that Mitchell Miller scumbag on a Friday at 5pm hoping to avoid the backlash. Cut him before the weekend ended because of the shit storm it stirred up.

I don't think they're comparable tbh comparing Quenneville

One is the perpetrator, the other, as well as the entire org, handled the situation poorly

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

I'd say post-lockout (2005-06) the worst season was probably 2009-10 because the talent on that team was pretty bad, but most of 2012-13 and the entire 2020-21 were bad like a two way tie for second.

The later two were shortened seasons so not as painful.

Most of the 2013-14 season was trash too, people forget that. They were bad that year up until the New Year and once they got Carcillo, Dominic Moore shook of the rust, and the Del Z for Klein trade happened, they slowly started shifting. But that team had dude performances even into April.

09-10 sucked, no doubt about it. But at that point we had a bunch of young players coming up and didn’t have a reputation for ruining players careers.

Again, maybe the team was worse, but I felt like we were on the up. This franchise is in titanic mode right now.

 

[Boris Zubov]

I don't think they're comparable tbh comparing Quenneville

One is the perpetrator, the other, as well as the entire org, handled the situation poorly

Unfortunately cancel culture is real & people just need to be outraged at something. I'm not saying I disagree with you, but until he does a media approved redemption tour, JQ is still too radioactive.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

They can't do what needs to be done.

What needs to be done is Dolan sells the team and the new owner gets rid of the jar with with Sather's brain in it, hooked up to the machine that gives Drury instructions in Morse code.

Call it a tinfoil hat theory but I believe the intention to actually rebuild and make sweeping change was legitimate when the letter went out.

It lasted through 18-19, Dolan saw session ticket renewals, and that was that. They immediately were buyers that summer and got Panarin and Trouba.

Not a single significant roster piece was unloaded after Hayes. Other than getting lucky in the lottery (we had a winning record the year we got Laf) nothing changed.

Then the guy who penned the letter and his president were suddenly gone.

The rebuild never happened. Dolan squashed it like he's a done a dozen times with the Knicks.

It did happen but not completely. They did turn over the roster and get rid of McDonagh, JT Miller, Nash, Stepan, Zucc, Hayes, among others. A coach is the easiest thing to change especially when its more than warranted. This team is lifeless.

 

[Kords]

If the Devils could take Ruff from us before that play in series, we should get to take Brunette. IDK if he's the right guy, but at least it would piss off the Devils fanbase. Gallant did say he wanted the Rangers to play like NJ after all!

 

[LeetchisGod]

Trotz would be torturous to watch, I don’t want him at all lmao

At least they would win. This team is torturous to watch and they lose.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I think the fact he hasn't gotten a shot somewhere by now may be a warning, from what i heard he was unwilling to take an AHL job or an assistant job, something you'd assume he'd have to do (i know, St.Louis).

I'm not "connected" by any means but I did know some people who worked in or were affiliated with the Rangers from 2006-2011. This does not include bar owners I got to know when I was a cover band musician in my early 20s from around 2003-2007.

They all told me the same thing: Messier is not the easiest person to get along with and not that humble. He believes the hype about himself and doesn't have great people skills with the average Toms, Dicks, and Harrys.

This is not to take away any of his on ice accomplishments, but I consistently heard this.

You can't have that kind of person coaching.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I think the fact he hasn't gotten a shot somewhere by now may be a warning, from what i heard he was unwilling to take an AHL job or an assistant job, something you'd assume he'd have to do (i know, St.Louis).

I heard he doesn't want to take an AHL job but the guys knows hockey and is a winner. Greatest captain of all time. Give him the interim job and see how it goes. This team is going nowhere this year if changes aren't made immediately.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I've said it a million times, this team is going nowhere without the kids being productive members of it. So why in the world would we have Jimmy Vesey, a guy who may or may not be back next year, on the first line taking ice time from Laf or Kakko ? They need to stop dicking them around and give them big minutes, big situations and some more pp time otherwise they are gonnna stagnate and the whole team is gonna pay.