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Post-Game Talk: heave ho! 8 in a row (At home)

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3 stars of the game

  • Kreider

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • Buchnevich

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Zibanejad

    Votes: 4 6.9%

  • Nash

    Votes: 28 48.3%

  • Hayes

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • Zuccarello

    Votes: 6 10.3%

  • Grabner

    Votes: 18 31.0%

  • Miller

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Desharnais

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Fast

    Votes: 13 22.4%

  • Carey

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Vesey

    Votes: 40 69.0%

  • Skjei

    Votes: 11 19.0%

  • Shattenkirk

    Votes: 9 15.5%

  • Smith

    Votes: 3 5.2%

  • Staal

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Holden

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Kampfer

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • Lundqvist

    Votes: 33 56.9%
  • Total voters
    58
Thanks for creating this thread. I was at the game and assume the other mods were out, as well. No one pulled the fire alarm while we were out. Good. :)
 
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To continue the discussion from the GDT, I don't think the Rangers are in a spot where they can fall prey to "trap games". 1. They aren't good enough, 2. They aren't exactly in a good spot in the standings. It was a similar period to many this season.
 
From last thread, regarding this asinine "is Vesey an NHL player" discussion I didn't really know existed beyond people being pissed off in GDTs:

silverfish said:
He's already surpassed my expectations.
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He was a third round pick who, at the time of his graduation, projected as a middle-six upside guy. Right now he looks like he's on the lower end of his upside, but of course he could improve. He's certainly an NHL player (I mean, look at some NHL fourth liners around the league...) and he could become a very useful one if his consistency improves. I'm maybe a little underwhelmed by him, but not disappointed.
 
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It's great that Vesey scored again (in bunches seems to be his way). He does have some real skills, which we saw last season. He has been given a lot of opportunity, and it is nice him getting points. Game winners are not be frowned on. I never got to see the game, but great for them to beat a team like the Canucks who seem to always show up this season.
 
Megustaelhockey said:
Thanks for creating this thread. I was at the game and assume the other mods were out, as well. No one pulled the fire alarm while we were out. Good. :)
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Aww man, if we knew , we would of went a little crazy the past few hours with no mods around.... I kid.
 
Nick of Time said:
Aww man, if we knew , we would of went a little crazy the past few hours with no mods around.... I kid.
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I can kind of mod from mobile, but it's a pain in the ass, even on the new platform.

Weren't you at the game, too? How much trouble can one cause on a phone? Lol, no one answer that...
 
Anyway, chose Nash, Vesey, and Hank as my three stars. I know Hank gave up 3 but made the big saves to keep this game close. Nothing he can do on that horrible turnover right in front of the net, had no time to react. Nash was just amazing, and Pepper still needs new shorts after that pass and goal sequence with Nash and Vesey.

Was sloppy most of the game, even Zucc with some bad passes, but they were able to weather the storm and pull out a win. Glad I went to this game, there were more Canucks fans than I thought there would be, a little surprised.
 
Megustaelhockey said:
I can kind of mod from mobile, but it's a pain in the ass, even on the new platform.

Weren't you at the game, too? How much trouble can one cause on a phone? Lol, no one answer that...
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Yeah I was at the game also. I literally almost lost my phone in the air after that Nash and Vesey sequence. They had just given up the goal after the Grabner goal, so the place just had the wind knocked out of them after getting pumped from tying the game. The place then exploded, That was how big that Vesey goal was imo.
 
As far as the 'is Vesey an NHLer' arguments, I think people are just overreacting to some of us pointing out that he was very bad to start the season. He was bad enough, that in my opinion, he could of been scratched for a game here or there to try to light a fire under him. AV moved him to the fourth line instead, and he looks to have responded exceptionally to that.

Maybe PB is saying that he shouldn't be in the NHL, but I don't think he is.
 
Ugly game but 2 points is 2 points.

Ziba (Dominating on both ends of the ice)
Vesey (Tied the game and then won it)
Hank (Was great in OT & shootout)

10 wins in the last 12 games
 
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Harbour Dog said:
As far as the 'is Vesey an NHLer' arguments, I think people are just overreacting to some of us pointing out that he was very bad to start the season.
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The entire team besides Mika were bad to start the season.They all should have been benched for the Wolfpack lol
 
nyr2k2 said:
From last thread, regarding this asinine "is Vesey an NHL player" discussion I didn't really know existed beyond people being pissed off in GDTs:


He was a third round pick who, at the time of his graduation, projected as a middle-six upside guy. Right now he looks like he's on the lower end of his upside, but of course he could improve. He's certainly an NHL player (I mean, look at some NHL fourth liners around the league...) and he could become a very useful one if his consistency improves. I'm maybe a little underwhelmed by him, but not disappointed.
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He's basically useless outside the top-6, and doesn't deserve to be there. He can't create offense on his own. He had a nice goal today, and scored in the shootout, and that's great, and I hope he keeps scoring, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Vesey is good at one thing, and that's getting into the correct position to get a good attempt off. You can't really teach that. But, that's all he's good at. His two-way game is brutal. If he's not scoring, he's hurting you, and he doesn't score very often.

Across the last two seasons, he's skated 1200 minutes of 5v5 time. Among the 153 forwards who meet that same threshold, he's 6th to last in total points. 15th to last in primary points. 11th to last in p/60. 24th to last in primary points per 60.

If you want to get more advanced, he's:

6th to last in relative shot attempt %
4th to last in relative expected goals %
3rd to last in relative goals %

[all data via Corsica.Hockey]

So. In my opinion, via my eyes and some analysis, it's not totally outrageous to believe that Jimmy Vesey might not be an "NHL Player". I maintain that it is extremely unfortunate that he was not sent to the AHL last year, and that it sucks that he would need waivers to do it this year, because if he didn't, I'd send him to the A now.

Are there better options in the Rangers organization right now? Probably not. Should Vesey continue to be shoehorned into the top-6 every chance AV gets? No way.
 
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Not their best game but getting the 2 points was huge. It would be great if they could, ya know, realize that games actually do start in the 1st period.
 
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