OT - NO POLITICS Hazy Days of Winter.

[BMC]

Absolutely stunning

 

[Ladyfan]

Absolutely stunning

They are such majestic beautiful animals. Sad people kill them for their tusks.

 

[BMC]

Ugh. Phone call from tenant in efficiency unit yesterday morning. Heard water flowing in basement. Went downstairs, sure enough a valve pipe had split. Fortunately he was able to turn the valve to slow the amount of water coming out otherwise the place would be neck deep in water. I called the water company to have them send someone out to turn the water off at the street so the plumber could do his thing. I was shocked when someone actually answered the phone! A nice lady took down my information and said someone would come out to shut the water off. I asked her when that might be but she couldn't tell me, this kind of weather means lots of work for their techs. So I waited. And waited. And waited some more. I tried calling back but this time no answer. I finally got a phone call around 8AM this morning, it was the supervisor telling me the tech would be coming later this morning. Tech shows up at 9:00 just as the plumber was pulling in the driveway. Tech was all apologies. Said he'd gotten notice of emergency but his message said email to come which meant he was to wait for further info. Which never came. I know the guy, he'd been out here before so I didn't go off on him. He & plumber are working out what needs to be done.

My family has always had the worst luck with water. We either don't have any or have so much it is a danger to life & property.

 

[BMC]

A video of the Toronto plane crash. How nobody was killed outright is IMO nothing less than a miracle

 

[RoccoF14]

A video of the Toronto plane crash. How nobody was killed outright is IMO nothing less than a miracle

Looks like the right main landing gear collapsed/broke on landing. He definitely slammed that aircraft down hard, but not crazy hard.

He had a little bit of right bank in on touchdown, so the right main was the first to hit the ground and it looked like it let go on contact. Curious to see whether that right main is separated from the rest of the wreckage.

 

[Alicat]

Looks like the right main landing gear collapsed/broke on landing. He definitely slammed that aircraft down hard, but not crazy hard.

He had a little bit of right bank in on touchdown, so the right main was the first to hit the ground and it looked like it let go on contact. Curious to see whether that right main is separated from the rest of the wreckage.

I thought I saw landing gear to the side when Good Morning America showed a passenger video, the one where the flight attendant is yelling put that phone away.

I wonder if it hit a patch of ice and just snapped. I'll also be curious to see if the plane may have been overweight. I've taken a similar plane from OKC to LaGuardia and they check almost every bag because they have little overhead space.

 

[Gee Wally]

A video of the Toronto plane crash. How nobody was killed outright is IMO nothing less than a miracle

Looks like the right main landing gear collapsed/broke on landing. He definitely slammed that aircraft down hard, but not crazy hard.

He had a little bit of right bank in on touchdown, so the right main was the first to hit the ground and it looked like it let go on contact. Curious to see whether that right main is separated from the rest of the wreckage.

Agree. Miraculous . Just wasnt their time I guess.

 

[RoccoF14]

I thought I saw landing gear to the side when Good Morning America showed a passenger video, the one where the flight attendant is yelling put that phone away.

I wonder if it hit a patch of ice and just snapped. I'll also be curious to see if the plane may have been overweight. I've taken a similar plane from OKC to LaGuardia and they check almost every bag because they have little overhead space.

I don't think weight and balance was the issue. I don't think ice on the runway was either. I think there was a mechanical issue with that right main. Who knows. Maybe the mount broke off, maybe it wasn't down and locked to begin with, maybe the antiskid wasn't working, or maybe the wheel locks didn't disengage and the tires just blew.

All are possibilities. They'll figure it out. NTSB guys are pros.

 

[Alicat]

I don't think weight and balance was the issue. I don't think ice on the runway was either. I think there was a mechanical issue with that right main. Who knows. Maybe the mount collapsed, maybe it wasn't down and locked, maybe the antiskid wasn't working, or maybe the wheel locks didn't disengage and the tires just blew.

All are possibilities. They'll figure it out. NTSB guys are pros.

All possibilities are on the table and I agree, the NTSB investigators are pros and they, along with the Canadian officials will get to the bottom of what happened.

I hope we hear more about the crew on the plane because their quick actions saved everyone aboard. They are heroes in my eyes at least.

 

[Bruinaura]

I don't think weight and balance was the issue. I don't think ice on the runway was either. I think there was a mechanical issue with that right main. Who knows. Maybe the mount broke off, maybe it wasn't down and locked to begin with, maybe the antiskid wasn't working, or maybe the wheel locks didn't disengage and the tires just blew.

All are possibilities. They'll figure it out. NTSB guys are pros.

Lately I've been watching the series Mayday on YouTube. Makes me never want to fly again lol. But it's fascinating how the investigators can find the smallest things to figure out what happened even when there is hardly any wreckage left to piece back together. What a job. Pressure to find out what happened so it doesn't happen again, pressure to get answers for the families of victims, etc. And in some cases there are just no answers to be found.

 

[BMC]

Lately I've been watching the series Mayday on YouTube. Makes me never want to fly again lol. But it's fascinating how the investigators can find the smallest things to figure out what happened even when there is hardly any wreckage left to piece back together. What a job. Pressure to find out what happened so it doesn't happen again, pressure to get answers for the families of victims, etc. And in some cases there are just no answers to be found.

Sometimes I watch "Air Disasters" on Smithsonian Channel. Usually I skip the first 10 minutes because it shows the plane(s) crashing etc but I watch the rest of the program which is about the investigation & you're right that is always fascinating. Amazing how the tiniest mistake by the pilots or a tiny plane part failing can lead to death & destruction.

 

[RoccoF14]

Sometimes I watch "Air Disasters" on Smithsonian Channel. Usually I skip the first 10 minutes because it shows the plane(s) crashing etc but I watch the rest of the program which is about the investigation & you're right that is always fascinating. Amazing how the tiniest mistake by the pilots or a tiny plane part failing can lead to death & destruction.

I went to Aviation Safety School in Monterrey when I was in the Nav and got a taste of that. I'm hooked on "Air Disasters" as well. The investigation stuff is the most interesting. I'm not a CSI guy at all, but if it involves aviation mishaps I'm addicted. I love that show.

More often that not, its not one major incident that causes a crash, but usually a series of little things that add up to a big problem.

 

[Alicat]

Sometimes I watch "Air Disasters" on Smithsonian Channel. Usually I skip the first 10 minutes because it shows the plane(s) crashing etc but I watch the rest of the program which is about the investigation & you're right that is always fascinating. Amazing how the tiniest mistake by the pilots or a tiny plane part failing can lead to death & destruction.

The investigation aspect is fascinating to me. I watch a flight attendant on youtube and she's gone in depth about the training she and her fellow flight attendants have to complete year round as well as the annual certification where they have both on land and in water (in a pool) training.

She's been very candid about the accidents that have occurred and how they have impacted her and her colleagues. They are just as nervous as passengers she said. It does sound like they have resources available for workers to receive help if needed which I was happy to hear about.

 

[Bruinaura]

I went to Aviation Safety School in Monterrey when I was in the Nav and got a taste of that. I'm hooked on "Air Disasters" as well. The investigation stuff is the most interesting. I'm not a CSI guy at all, but if it involves aviation mishaps I'm addicted. I love that show.

More often that not, its not one major incident that causes a crash, but usually a series of little things that add up to a big problem.

Imagine being an airplane mechanic and one day an investigator asks to see you about the work you did on a plane that crashed

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Looks like the right main landing gear collapsed/broke on landing. He definitely slammed that aircraft down hard, but not crazy hard.

He had a little bit of right bank in on touchdown, so the right main was the first to hit the ground and it looked like it let go on contact. Curious to see whether that right main is separated from the rest of the wreckage.

He came down pretty hard, wonder if the wind pushed him down