Confirmed with Link: Hawks aquire Bowen Byram and Jordan Greenway for 4th overall, 45th overall, and Crevier

[Tifosi]

Me last night knowing Connor will have another BC boy passing him deep dish on the rush and PP.

 

[vandymeer13]

He's a BIG 4th line plug who will drop the gloves ....his issue has been injuries.....given the Hawks TOTAL lack of toughness, this trade does address 2 needs. Not a 1 dimensional trade, just seems KD could have given up a little less. I'd still like to trade for Edmundson so you've got some muscle on the 4th and D.

Greenway is not tough, lets not act like he is a 4th lone grinder enforcer. He is a soft power forward who acted tough before he got to the pro level and is injury prone. Waste of money, hopefully he just learns to park his butt in front of the net and plays with a little moxy so he can get one last contract.

 

[AmericanDream]

Too soon to start a KD executive of the year thread on the main??

 

[ColbyChaos]

what in the world are you rambling about?

Was Pronger a 3-4 on that 07 ducks team since Niedermayer was playing on the top pair?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Too soon to start a KD executive of the year thread on the main??

Grier and the Orlov is a 1 constructed SJ team >>>>>

 

[ello]

I wonder if you start

Vlasic-Byram
Kaiser-Lev

Feed Vlasic-Byram 24+ mins. I just don't see Byram's rushing and roving game being something that'll allow Lev to develop the way he has to

 

[ColbyChaos]

If Crevier turns into Chara 2.0 or something close to it in a few years ... and thats a big if but nonetheless this trade is a disaster because Byram has hit his ceiling and Greenway will be hurt his entire tenure here.

Byram hit his ceiling but a player who is older still has a chance of hitting a Chara like ceiling?

Sit this one out nephew

 

[AmericanDream]

I wonder if you start

Vlasic-Byram
Kaiser-Lev

Feed Vlasic-Byram 24+ mins. I just don't see Byram's rushing and roving game being something that'll allow Lev to develop the way he has to

Buffalo seemed to make it work and get the most out of Dahlin, Byram, Samuelsson and Power. I think the Hawks can manage Byram and Lev and making sure both get the ice time they need.

 

[hawksfan50]

Frank Seravallivweighedcin on the Byram deal....pouted out that immediately Byram becomes best Hawks dman eve if he stays at the level he was before(= 2nd pairing level) as a floor..
But he said hexwas willing to bet a mortgage payment that Byram will get at a mknuimum 60+ poibts i a top pairongvrole and as pp qb.

He also pointed out that Hawks were getting a sure thing who should be fine in a top pair role ratger than hope their #4dman pick if they had gone that route would become a 1D level D in the next 5 years after development..
Seravalli said Hawks liked several 5 or 6 dmen but were not in love with any 1 of them becoming a top dman I the league...so that maybe their ceiling would only be as good as Byram's anyway...and that looking at past #4s in last 16 NHL drafts 4 of them never played an NHL game...and only 7 of them are NHL players today today =pretty big gamble on success even for as high as a#4 pick.
So Hawks bet on certainty of a proven NJL player with at least 2nd pairing floor and a still higher ceiling of given a bigger role that he never had the chance with before ..

You can still say Hawks overpaid ..but you cannotcdeny that immediately Byram is the Hawks best dman till some of the young D are fully developed and maybe 1cof Lev or Rinzel will eventually surpass Byram's level and if both do then you are laughing as 3 core D woukd be locked in.

So maybe KD overpaid ...but still improved 1 portion of the team.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Best Hawks d-man in 2026 is kinda like pointing out which kid is gonna be the tallest one in my son’s third grade class next school year.

Neat, but not really a high bar to clear.

 

[Dead Meat]

The best thing I like about Byram is that he didn’t miss a game over the past two seasons. Not many players can say that...

 

[Pez68]

The best thing I like about Byram is that he didn’t miss a game over the past two seasons. Not many players can say that...

Well now you've done it.

 

[Hawkaholic]

yeah i mean hockey 101 tells us the way coaches divide up 12 forwards is the exact same process as dividing up 6 D-man

i get i am new here but please don't act like i am stupid

So you understand that just because he played in the 2nd pairing, that doesn't make him a 2nd pairing dman. Good to know.

 

[Pez68]

If you don't think Byram is a legit top pairing defenseman, you didn't watch the playoffs. He was really, really good.

 

[Hawkaholic]

If you don't think Byram is a legit top pairing defenseman, you didn't watch the playoffs. He was really, really good.

Yup, played the most minutes in a few games in the playoffs. And did very well in those mins. I bet Buffalo misses him more than they realize.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

trade happened 9 years to the day they traded Panarin for Saad.

Which deal was worse? The first one signaled the end as a playoff team for a long long time

 

[Toews2Bickell]

trade happened 9 years to the day they traded Panarin for Saad.

Which deal was worse? The first one signaled the end as a playoff team for a long long time

different zip code

 

[thedarkstark]

trade happened 9 years to the day they traded Panarin for Saad.

Which deal was worse? The first one signaled the end as a playoff team for a long long time

Well Byram is currently slated to be a 1 year rental so....

 

[HeisenBaez]

different zip code

Agreed. If people want to compare the Byram trade to the Seth Jones acquisition, fine, but trying to compare Byram to the Bread trade is beyond nonsensical.

 

[AmericanDream]

Yup, played the most minutes in a few games in the playoffs. And did very well in those mins. I bet Buffalo misses him more than they realize.

A playoff team for the first time in years lost Byram, Tuch and Malenstyn..pretty wild to see that. Yes they are up against the cap and have a few young guys ready but have to feel they will take a step backwards honestly.

 

[Kurtosis]

Well Byram is currently slated to be a 1 year rental so....

You don’t actually believe that, do you?

It’s hard to tell around here given what has been posted in the last 24 hours.

 

[AmericanDream]

You don’t actually believe that, do you?

It’s hard to tell around here given what has been posted in the last 24 hours.

Zero chance of that

 

[Hawkaholic]

trade happened 9 years to the day they traded Panarin for Saad.

Which deal was worse? The first one signaled the end as a playoff team for a long long time

The Seth Jones deal was worse than this.

 

[Paul Allen]

Well Byram is currently slated to be a 1 year rental so....

For 7 more days.

 

[Panzerspitze]

Frank Seravallivweighedcin on the Byram deal....pouted out that immediately Byram becomes best Hawks dman eve if he stays at the level he was before(= 2nd pairing level) as a floor..
But he said hexwas willing to bet a mortgage payment that Byram will get at a mknuimum 60+ poibts i a top pairongvrole and as pp qb.

He also pointed out that Hawks were getting a sure thing who should be fine in a top pair role ratger than hope their #4dman pick if they had gone that route would become a 1D level D in the next 5 years after development..
Seravalli said Hawks liked several 5 or 6 dmen but were not in love with any 1 of them becoming a top dman I the league...so that maybe their ceiling would only be as good as Byram's anyway...and that looking at past #4s in last 16 NHL drafts 4 of them never played an NHL game...and only 7 of them are NHL players today today =pretty big gamble on success even for as high as a#4 pick.
So Hawks bet on certainty of a proven NJL player with at least 2nd pairing floor and a still higher ceiling of given a bigger role that he never had the chance with before ..

You can still say Hawks overpaid ..but you cannotcdeny that immediately Byram is the Hawks best dman till some of the young D are fully developed and maybe 1cof Lev or Rinzel will eventually surpass Byram's level and if both do then you are laughing as 3 core D woukd be locked in.

So maybe KD overpaid ...but still improved 1 portion of the team.

Bigger question is how much "love" management still has for the existing high draft picks on D, #2 and #7, respectively, on them turning out to be top D men in the NHL, how long they are projected to get there [if ever], and how that affects management's "love" [or a lack thereof] for the D prospects in this draft