Have McDrai surpassed Peak Crolkin?

[illpucks]

Peak Sid had 37 in 22 before going down to injury, and peak Malkin at the end of same season had 36 in 22

Now Drai has 41 in 21 and McDavid has 37 in 21

Nostalgia on HF heavily will favor peak Sid/Geno in a poll, but what is the actual story? Have McDrai passed them?

 

[GRadio]

Maybe on paper but it would take a championship to be in the running.

 

[Ainec]

If they both hit 120 pts this season. Yes most definitely

The pens roster was much better

 

[EightyOne]

@illpucks You should be banned purely because of the portmanteaus in the thread title.

 

[DearDiary]

It's still Ryder and Halak

 

[illpucks]

@illpucks You should be banned purely because of the portmanteaus in the thread title.

Not a fan of Sidgeni Crolkin?

 

[Trocity]

I like Frankoncussion.

 

[EightyOne]

Not a fan of Sidgeni Crolkin?

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

37 and 36 in 22 in that era was more impressive than 41 and 37 in 21 is today.

Look at where Crosby and Malkin ranked relative to their peers in points per game: NHL.com - Stats

Now compare that to Draisaitl and McDavid right now: NHL.com - Stats

Also consider that Crosby and Malkin were far stronger defensively and proved themselves as elite playoff performers as well.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

When Draisaitl wins a hart, smythe and multiple rosses then we'll talk. Right now he doesn't belong with the other 3.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

37 and 36 in 22 in that era was more impressive than 41 and 37 in 21 is today.

Look at where Crosby and Malkin ranked relative to their peers in points per game: NHL.com - Stats

Now compare that to Draisaitl and McDavid right now: NHL.com - Stats

Also consider that Crosby and Malkin were far stronger defensively and proved themselves as elite playoff performers as well.

Most importantly, they didn't play with each other.

 

[Hustlr]

Pretty sure it’s Malsby

 

[King Mapes]

It's still Ryder and Halak

What about the second round pick?

 

[Saltcreek]

37 and 36 in 22 in that era was more impressive than 41 and 37 in 21 is today.

Look at where Crosby and Malkin ranked relative to their peers in points per game: NHL.com - Stats

Now compare that to Draisaitl and McDavid right now: NHL.com - Stats

Also consider that Crosby and Malkin were far stronger defensively and proved themselves as elite playoff performers as well.

Here you try to add context but then you completely ignore the fact that the current Oilers team is worse than than the Pittsburgh team.

 

[King Mapes]

Here you try to add context but then you completely ignore the fact that the current Oilers team is worse than than the Pittsburgh team.

Except Drai has only been great for slightly over a year. How would that surpass peak Sid and Geno who won tons of hardware? Plus while the Pens were better, they didn’t have as good of line mates.

 

[ayoshi]

But will they make the playoffs?...

 

[Matsun]

Crosby and Malkin peaked with 36 and 31 points in 24 games in the playoffs with Guerin, Kunitz, Fedotenko and Talbot as wingers.

 

[mattihp]

I'd be willing to take this up for discussion once the Oil has won a cup. To be honest, Pittsburgh's cup winning teams weren't much more well-rounded than the teams the Oilers ice. But Sidney and Geno went for the W, Gordon Bombay style.

 

[Soundwave]

When did Sid and Geno have a GM as stupid as Chiarelli?

The Oilers had Barzal sitting in their lap and Taylor Hall in the bank already ... that's not on the players that their supporting cast got crippled by poor management for 4 summers. The organization can now begin to recover, having already shed the Lucic albatross right off the bat.

They're showing this year if you give them even half way decent goaltending and a decent PK what they can do with just that, if Holland adds even one good second line winger as the seasons goes along ... look out.

 

[Satire]

We're about 4 years too early for this thread.

 

[Saltcreek]

Except Drai has only been great for slightly over a year. How would that surpass peak Sid and Geno who won tons of hardware? Plus while the Pens were better, they didn’t have as good of line mates.

I am not saying that the Oilers duo is better than the Pittsburgh duo, I am saying that his example is flawed. It is good to add context but you have to consider every factor and not cherry pick one variable.

 

[wej20]

I'd be willing to take this up for discussion once the Oil has won a cup. To be honest, Pittsburgh's cup winning teams weren't much more well-rounded than the teams the Oilers ice. But Sidney and Geno went for the W, Gordon Bombay style.

In 2009 the Pens 3rd line was Cooke - Staal - Kennedy and in 2016 it was Hagelin - Bonino - Kessel. What's the Oilers current 3rd line? Heck, what's the Oilers current 2nd line?

 

[Sky04]

When they both post 30+ point playoff runs enroute to a cup let alone 3.

 

[Sky04]

37 and 36 in 22 in that era was more impressive than 41 and 37 in 21 is today.

Look at where Crosby and Malkin ranked relative to their peers in points per game: NHL.com - Stats

Now compare that to Draisaitl and McDavid right now: NHL.com - Stats

Also consider that Crosby and Malkin were far stronger defensively and proved themselves as elite playoff performers as well.

Not to mention they played on seperate lines and posted those numbers. Not sure how far Edmonton will ever get as a one line team if that's the route they go.

 

[Sky04]

We're about 4 years too early for this thread.

Crosby and Malkin by Crosby's 4th season had already won a cup and been the finals twice, McDrai are in year 5 and trying to figure out how to make the playoffs. The playoffs were never in question when Pittsburgh had at least 1 of those 2 in the lineup.