Has Dubas failed at his job?
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CantLoseWithMatthews
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hasn't succeeded yet doesn't mean failed. Once he's fired and out of the league then sure, call him a failure. All NHL teams are a work in progress and change every year
Gamble9
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eventually you have to make the players accountable they've had stacked rosters quit on a coach and although they've been underdogs in many series the lack of success should be squarely on the players shoulders for not winning a round at this point
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Yes but what are we going to say that hasn't been said before?
hamzarocks
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This should be his final year if we have any accountability in the organization.
If we disappoint again it should be a huge culture change change core pieces moved and a major retool initiated by a new GM/President and Coach
Hopefully that isn't the case and we make to ECF at minimum
If we disappoint again it should be a huge culture change change core pieces moved and a major retool initiated by a new GM/President and Coach
Hopefully that isn't the case and we make to ECF at minimum
But don’t you think based on the assets he inherited, he should have been able to win a playoff series by now?
CantLoseWithMatthews
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Should they have won a playoff series before he got the GM job?
justashadowof
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It'll be an insane turnover if Dubas and Shanahan are canned. The Leafs' front office is lousy with Dubas loyalists over MLSE lifers. They'll all have to go too.
A trip to the ECF this year was probably the difference of Tavares falling down one second later.
Sure, he’s not the first GM that has failed here and he won’t be the last
hotpaws
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he's been a failure so far but he's still at the plate swinging so until he's kicked to the curb like a useless piece of trash he can still save his job if the team somehow surprises us this year
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I guess I just don't see it as a total failure that he has yet to turn a non-winning team into a winning team. If he can't do it before he loses his job, then absolutely. GMs are supposed to be judged on their entire tenure, and we haven't seen that yet though
hamzarocks
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Nah I can't see us making the ECF with JT playing. We had the Habs dead and ready to be put away without JT. We're up 3-1 and then proceeded to choke heavily.
JT isn't a playoff performer either so doubt he'd put an outstanding performance and power us to a win in any of those games. He would impact Nylander negatively and bring down his points this series as Nylander had a hot run of chemistry with Kerfoot and Galchenyuk
Marner and Matthews had to win us 1 of the 3 games and close the series and both failed to do. We would have made it deep this year if those 2 guys showed out and produced at an expected level for players of their caliber but both failed to do their jobs.
I agree he overpaid Marner. Tavares actually took a discount to come here and with Matthews my issue is the term of the contract.
Suntouchable13
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I was actually ok with the moves last season. This team had the best roster on paper in the Canadian division. But I don’t think he has improved the team at all going into next season, in fact I think it is worse. I don’t think anybody can say that this team is better or better equipped to win a single round. For that, I think I will give him a fail grade.
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Should they ?? year #1 under Lou - #8 seed vs #1 President's trophy winner ?? No. Year #2 under Lou - #3 vs #2 in Atlantic. They were close so maybe.
Year #3 under Dubas, choke in games 6 and 7. Year #4 choke vs CBJ. Year #5 under Dubas, choke vs Habs.
hotpaws
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according to reports they all took discounts , lol
and JT is the most overpaid player on the team and it's not even close
So you're saying that he improved the team from 1st round underdog to 1st round favourite?
Well they barely squeaked by us without JT, JT wouldn’t have had to do much to make the difference. We were deflated in that game 1 loss not even knowing if JT was gonna make it through the night. It messed up our line chemistry and we didn’t have a proper 2nd line center replacement for him, they even tried Foligno at center
Many markets would kill to have a team that can make the playoffs every year. It sucks that they don't get very far into the playoffs, but you guys need to keep things in perspective.
Suntouchable13
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Sure, but they don't give out participation trophies.
The players we have can’t get it done when it matters the most. If Dubas wants to stand by them stubbornly, well, he will lose his job over it. Shanahan can go too.
BigBadBruins7708
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But Tavares still wasn't needed when he signed. That cap space was better suited elsewhere (like defense) and he cost himself more cap space by ensuring Matthews/Marner would have higher contract demands. He had a team of elite young players, you surround them with middle 6/2nd pair vets
Tavares overall probably cost the team $15m in cap space per year
hotpaws
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sure they did
and the broke ass Yotes were going to offer AM the max
and Marner said he was offered more
it's Toronto baby , all our players are worth more than their comparables
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