Toggle sidebar

Has Connor Bedard quietly became underrated ?

  • Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
Status
Not open for further replies.
Luigi Lemieux said:
Did his game change at all after breaking his jaw? He had 9 goals his first 13 games in the league. Only 16 goals in the 72 games since. Or was the fast start because the league didn't know him yet.
Click to expand...
My guess is they quickly found out that he's the only real offensive threat on the team and they started swarming him.

I never thought he was in the McDavid/Crosby tier but the next one after that, he might still get there.

It takes a hell of a lot of talent to score 70 pts by yourself.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Voight, AzHawk, Luigi Lemieux and 1 other person
Luigi Lemieux said:
Did his game change at all after breaking his jaw? He had 9 goals his first 13 games in the league. Only 16 goals in the 72 games since. Or was the fast start because the league didn't know him yet.
Click to expand...

5v5 stats:

First 13 games
23.5% shooting percentage
11.2 shots/60
4.61 iHDCF/60
1.39 ixG/60 vs 2.62 G/60

Last 72 games
7.8% shooting percentage
7.6 shots/60
2.68 iHDCF/60
0.84 ixG/60 vs 0.59 G/60

Long story short, he was getting a lot more shots and high quality chances in those first 13 games, and was getting really good puck luck to go along with it. Then something happened, either fatigue, or the fact that teams and goaltenders adjusted. His shot rate, high danger chance rate, and ixG rate all plummeted - the eye test suggests he's having a really hard time getting to the middle of the ice, and teams have been able to keep him to the perimeter without too much trouble. His shooting luck regressed as well, which compounded those factors.

The data seems to suggest he's shooting a lot more from the perimeter than he was at the start of his career, though both his shooting attempt volume and expected goals have dropped dramatically over the course of his career - definitely not trending in the direction you'd expect for a player of his pedigree. The graph below is his career rolling CF/60 and ixG/60 numbers at 5v5:

1731705911571.png


Regardless, this is starting to look less and less like just a cold streak, and increasingly seems like he needs to make some serious adjustments.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Matsun, Jimmy Firecracker, Luigi Lemieux and 1 other person
CantHaveTkachev said:
That and the emergence of Mikko Rantanen...then Cale Makar after

Bedard doesn't have a running mate like McDavid with Draisaitl or a Crosby with Malkin

he's on an island right now
Click to expand...
We're all crossing our fingers in Chicago that the 2025 Draft Pick is a big impact forward, lol.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Voight
Underrated? I mean, Michkov has him doubled in goals and the same amount of points in 2 less games. I don't think underrated is even an option.
 
  • Like
Reactions: User9992
He was supposed to be the next superstar but he simply hasn’t looked good. 5 goals in his last 33 games. 8 in his last 43. Only 3 goals all season. On pace to score under 20. Is on pace to score less than last year. Looks invisible lately. Seems unable to get to the middle of the ice. His shots are extremely easy for goaltenders to save. He’s often knocked off the puck with ease. He’s also not a good defender and faceoff guy.

Did Chicago take the wrong player? Should they have drafted Michkov instead? He’s looking entirely better. I think they should have taken the Russian.

Starting to think Bedard is extremely overrated and might not be a superstar in this league. People say he’s only 19, but he’s been labeled a generational talent for years. Crosby and McDavid were dominating at his age in their sophomore seasons, winning scoring titles and MVPs. People bring up Nathan MacKinnon also having a slow start to his career, but Mack has qualities, size and speed, that Bedard simply does not. Guys like Ryan Donato are outperforming Bedard right now. Teuvo Teravainen, a good NHL player, hasn’t helped Bedard take the next step. Sure, the roster isn’t great, but is that really a good excuse?

Sure, maybe the McDavid and Crosby comparisons were a bit lofty, but at this rate he may not even be on MacKinnon’s/Matthews’/Kucherov’s/Draisaitl’s/Kane’s/Ovi’s/Malkin’s/Kaprisov’s/Point’s/Stamkos’/Jack Hughes’ level.
 
Last edited:
He’s extremely overrated. Hasn’t impressed me in the NHL. Chicago should have taken Michkov instead. “Generational talent” my ass. What a joke.

CantHaveTkachev said:
That and the emergence of Mikko Rantanen...then Cale Makar after

Bedard doesn't have a running mate like McDavid with Draisaitl or a Crosby with Malkin

he's on an island right now
Click to expand...
I can assure you a legit star like McDavid could still blow past Bedard in points while on the current Blackhawks. And turn guys on Chicago into 60+ point players. Bedard just isn’t good right now.
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: Filthy Dangles and User9992
OvisOfficeSecretary said:
He was supposed to be the next superstar but he simply hasn’t looked good. 5 goals in his last 33 games. 8 in his last 43. Only 3 goals all season. On pace to score under 20. Is on pace to score less than last year. Looks invisible lately. Seems unable to get to the middle of the ice. His shots are extremely easy for goaltenders to save. He’s often knocked off the puck with ease. He’s also not a good defender and faceoff guy.

Did Chicago take the wrong player? Should they have drafted Michkov instead? He’s looking entirely better. I think they should have taken the Russian, instead.

Starting to think Bedard is extremely overrated and might not be a superstar in this league. People say he’s only 19, but he’s been labeled a generational talent for years. Crosby and McDavid were dominating at his age in their sophomore seasons, winning scoring titles and MVPs. People bring up Nathan MacKinnon also having a slow start to his career, but Mack has qualities, size and speed, that Bedard simply does not. Guys like Ryan Donato are outperforming Bedard right now. Teuvo Teravainen, a good NHL player, hasn’t helped Bedard take the next step. Sure, the roster isn’t great, but is that really a good excuse?

Is it time to worry? Sure, maybe the McDavid and Crosby comparisons were a bit lofty, but at this rate he may not even be on MacKinnon’s/Matthews’/Kucherov’s/Draisaitl’s/Kane’s/Ovi’s/Malkin’s/Kaprisov’s/Point’s/Stamkos’/Jack Hughes’ level.
Click to expand...

Are you asking us if YOU should be worried? You clearly seem to be worried, so what’s the point in asking that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PainForShane and Slaydagnar
OvisOfficeSecretary said:
Matvei Michkov’s team isn’t any better
Click to expand...
Oh? He's not even leading his team in scoring, while Bedard is leading his.
OvisOfficeSecretary said:
and yet he has double the goals and the same amount of points in 2 less games played.
Click to expand...
Same number of points in 2 fewer games played with such a sample size... is that what's making you panic so?

Also, those 2 extra points are on power play. They have the same number of even strength goals, too.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Filthy Dangles, AzHawk and Coffee
OvisOfficeSecretary said:
More worried for his sake. Honestly, Bedard busting after all the terrible things the Chicago organization has done would be amusing.
Click to expand...

The fakeness is revealed. You’re worried for his sake? Then you say you’d enjoy seeing him fail out of spite for the Blackhawks? Very troll-ish. And pick a lane, dude.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PainForShane, coooldude, Chet Manley and 2 others
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom