Prospect Info: Hartford Wolf Pack/Bloomington Bison Thread: Part XV

Clark Kellogg

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Have we surrendered?
This is just sad.
The game before this one was pathetic. Other than the late power-play, I believe we had only one sustained offensive zone effort in the game. Though I will say that the linesmen and referees were horrible.
 

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Jacksonville ends their season tonight and have been locked in to 3rd place in the South Division 8 points behind the Atlanta Gladiators and 7 points ahead of Greenville. The other playoff seas are up for grabs as the Gladiators and the Everblades battle for 1st and 2nd and Orlando and Greenville battles for the final playoff spot.
 
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Just can't win without the Killer B's - Braden, Brodz, Barron (and Bitetto)
 

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The nightmare is not over. Bridgeport lost last night leaving them 3 points ahead of the Pack. Bridgeport has 2 left with the Pack having 3 left. So it won't be over until Friday at the earliest. And if the Pack win Friday and Bridgeport loses we have a Bridgeport-Pack showdown Saturday night.

During the losing streak there were some ugly loses. But the last six games or so every game has been close. I'm not optimistic but as Jim Carey once said, "So you say there is a chance."

The Merkely and Letunov trades have not helped in the way the Pack management hoped. Meanwhile Johnny Brodzinski rides the bench in NY.
 

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The nightmare is not over. Bridgeport lost last night leaving them 3 points ahead of the Pack. Bridgeport has 2 left with the Pack having 3 left. So it won't be over until Friday at the earliest. And if the Pack win Friday and Bridgeport loses we have a Bridgeport-Pack showdown Saturday night.

During the losing streak there were some ugly loses. But the last six games or so every game has been close. ...

so the Pack "control their own destiny,"
[if a team, with 1 win in last 10, can win
3 games in less than 48 hours: Fri eve, Sat eve and Sun matinee]

but the opponent Friday is
Charlotte, in a flat-footed tie with Springfield for 2nd/3rd place, and the team in 2nd gets First Round bye

and the opponent Saturday is
Bridgeport, the team they trail by 3 points
the 'good news' there is that, on Friday, Islanders will be playing Springfield, with their own incentive

then the opponent Sunday is
WBS, who, this weekend, will be hoping to stay ahead of Hershey for Home Ice in THEIR First round meetup

so a tall hill to climb


 

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I think the bigger issue is that once NYR acquired the players they did at the deadline they weren't forced to send down the McKeggs, Brodz etc so that killed their AHL depth. Would've been nice if they signed some players to AHL contracts to help fill in the gaps. Esp when there's not much prospect depth down there except Paj who still seems to not be getting reg ice time.
perhaps I don’t understand waiver rules post trade deadline very well but my thoughts on why Brodzinski and McKegg didn’t go to Hartford is the Rangers look at them as playoff depth and didn’t want to risk losing them on waivers.
 

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perhaps I don’t understand waiver rules post trade deadline very well but my thoughts on why Brodzinski and McKegg didn’t go to Hartford is the Rangers look at them as playoff depth and didn’t want to risk losing them on waivers.
its not just waivers but AHL roster/playoff/eligibility rules, it was touched on here around TDL -
some of us expected Brodzinski and maybe Schneider to be "paper demoted" to Pack on TDL day to be AHL playoff eligible by being on the roster that day

I wasn't tracking closely to see if Brodz, at that time, was within the thresholds to be sent down without new waivers

McKegg would have needed waivers, and very very likely claimed, since rosters expanded after TDL, such as by any of his 6 former teams (all the Conference & playoff rivals except Caps...)

i did expect more AHL level NCAA signings than just (Easton)Brodzinski

the bottom hadn't fallen out, yet, for the Pack then,
and there was an anticipated platoon of draftees who could trickle in - signed guys like Henricksson, Othmann, Cuylle, Rempe, Garand as well as ATO eligible guys like Vierling, Korczak, Grubbe and Boyko
 

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its not just waivers but AHL roster/playoff/eligibility rules, it was touched on here around TDL -
some of us expected Brodzinski and maybe Schneider to be "paper demoted" to Pack on TDL day to be AHL playoff eligible by being on the roster that day

I wasn't tracking closely to see if Brodz, at that time, was within the thresholds to be sent down without new waivers

McKegg would have needed waivers, and very very likely claimed, since rosters expanded after TDL, such as by any of his 6 former teams (all the Conference & playoff rivals except Caps...)

i did expect more AHL level NCAA signings than just (Easton)Brodzinski

the bottom hadn't fallen out, yet, for the Pack then,
and there was an anticipated platoon of draftees who could trickle in - signed guys like Henricksson, Othmann, Cuylle, Rempe, Garand as well as ATO eligible guys like Vierling, Korczak, Grubbe and Boyko
Here is the waiver rule (from Cap Friendly) that would have applied to Brodzinski:

  1. A player does not need to pass through waivers if the player has not been on the NHL active roster for a cumulative 30 days since last clearing waivers, and has not played in 10 or more NHL games. CBA Reference 13.2(b)
Brodzinski would have cleared waivers before the season. He was up and down to the taxi squad in January but not on the active roster. He was called to the active roster from January 27-February 2. He was last recalled on March 1.

As cwede said, Brodzinksi could have been returned to Hartford on March 21 NHL trade deadline to qualify for the AHL playoffs without requiring waivers. He would have required waivers once he was on the active roster for 30 days and played in at least 10 games.

The Rangers would have believed that Brodzinski was needed on the NHL roster so they kept him past the 30 day requirement.

It's a shame that he has been riding the bench for several weeks while Hartford is dying without him.
 

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Pack sign 26 yr old RHD Eric Williams

3rd yr pro out of Northeastern,
mostly ECHL before this season, where he had 24 games w AHL Chicago
(... and maybe lost icetime to Tarmo ?)


 
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Pack up 1-0 after 1. Tanner Fritz comes down the left wing and beats the Charlotte goalie on a shot that you would have liked the goalie to stop. Pack started fast but then Charlotte came on in the second half of the period. Kinkaid solid in net. Shots 10-9 Charlotte.

Meanwhile Bridgeport leading Springfield 2-1 and Lehigh Valley and Hershey tied at 1 after one.

If the Pack lose tonight and Bridgeport wins the season is over.
 
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Pack and Charlotte tied at 1 after 2. Kinkaid screened on a shot from the blue line that gets through. Kinkaid has been excellent. Period ends with 30 seconds left on a Pack penalty.

Bridgeport and Springfield tied at 2 after 2 and Lehigh Valley and Hershey tied at 1 in the second.
 
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Power play goal by Charlotte on a Khodorenko penalty is the game winner. So with Hartford losing and Bridgeport winning the season is over.

The team played hard. Kinkaid solid in net. But it's time for a season wrap up in the next few days.

Pajuniemi and Lundqvist were scratched. I assume they were hurt. Skinner also scratched in favor of Taylor.
 

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Would be cool to see Jones get some games with the big club next week, maybe reward some others with a game or two as well for a long season in Hartford, and some NHL salary days.
 

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Would be cool to see Jones get some games with the big club next week, maybe reward some others with a game or two as well for a long season in Hartford, and some NHL salary days.
Is it any limit on the number of players they can call up for the rest of the season (except to be under the cap)? Some days on NHL salary would be a nice bonus for a lot of players.
 

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Is it any limit on the number of players they can call up for the rest of the season (except to be under the cap)? Some days on NHL salary would be a nice bonus for a lot of players.

I think they have all 4 post deadline regular season call ups still left to use since they really didn’t need anyone with the amount of healthy scratches we have to begin with.

Once the NHL regular season is over, you can call up as many as you want for your taxi squad.

I imagine both Huska and Kinkaid will be coming up just to stay ready, then maybe Jones, Tinordi, Robertson, Nils if his injury isn’t bad?

Then a few forwards as well?
 

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I think they have all 4 post deadline regular season call ups still left to use since they really didn’t need anyone with the amount of healthy scratches we have to begin with.

Once the NHL regular season is over, you can call up as many as you want for your taxi squad.

I imagine both Huska and Kinkaid will be coming up just to stay ready, then maybe Jones, Tinordi, Robertson, Nils if his injury isn’t bad?

Then a few forwards as well?
Guess we will see atleast Pajuniemi, Gettinger and Greco in the Black Aces when PO's begin. No idea how much the org care about finnishing first in the division, but we could see some new faces the last games. Both to give them a look and as a reward.
 

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Guess we will see atleast Pajuniemi, Gettinger and Greco in the Black Aces when PO's begin....
My guess at F's recalled is Greco, Getts, Merkley(40 NHL games, 15 points across last 4 seasons) and maybe Richards.
Paju had up and down season, not likely to debut in playoffs. Won't mind if I'm wrong tho.
 

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Pretty amazing how badly they collapsed. I know they played a bit better than their record suggests, but man...they really fell dramatically.
 
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