Prospect Info: Hartford Wolf Pack (AHL)/Maine Mariners (ECHL) Thread: Part XII
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No worries. Howlings is legitimately great, if you can put up with all the weird stuff they post (and that sometimes you get three recaps from three guys). The recaps are very thorough, they often post lines, they're often the only place that will report an injury, etc. Even if you watch the highlights a good Gerry Cantlon recap is still worth a read. Cantlon will make these connections and references to random hockey guys that will blow your mind. He's like if Pierre was local to New England.
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NYRFANMANI
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Did the Pack play since Chytil got called up? If so, how they look?
(Calder Cup 2020 ain't happening without Chytil
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(Calder Cup 2020 ain't happening without Chytil
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Did the Pack play since Chytil got called up? If so, how they look?
(Calder Cup 2020 ain't happening without Chytil
To be honest I think HFD more or less only have played tight games this season.
But they have depth both at D and at F and are as a team focusing on the right things early. I would be surprised if they lost more than they won, but they were probably not quite in CC territory even with Chytil.
NYRFANMANI
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I agree, and they got KK quotes after games etc, it’s great. But I genuinely struggle with their website. Like can only see one or maybe two articles back? I often check it like once or twice a month, and you can’t read up on any older stuff because it seem to vanish after a few days.
If anyone read their recaps regularly, post links here. It’s worth reading.
Obviously they need to be a playoff team without them but since the rangers won’t make the playoffs the pack could see a major influx of talent come playoff time as the rangers assign kids there for the playoffs. Hasn’t happened in awhile though cause pack don’t make the playoffs
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Wouldn’t hesitate to send Chytil, Andersson, Howden, Hajek, Lindgren and Fox. Possibly Kravtsov too. Load the team and let them compete.
I'd be tempted, but probably wouldn't. If they make the playoffs on the backs of guys like Gettinger, Keane, Fontaine, Day, Jones, etc., then I feel like those guys ought to be given the opportunity to continue playing. Plus I think it's just unnecessary to send down guys that have played a full NHL season or even two full seasons. They gain the "experience" of the playoffs but not much else.
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With all due respect, these guys you listed are not a priority. I also hope they (both players and front office) don’t think this is something that should be in consideration.
JimmyG89
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If someone like Lindgren is up and down, then that's one thing, but guys like Andersson, Howden, and Chytil likely are up the whole season don't need to go down, unless there are a bunch of scratches in there or an injury.
Also guys that sign PTOs after their prospect season ends, like a Barron or K'Andre would get the chance to play.
Let's hope they get in. Losing Chytil will make that tougher.
Also guys that sign PTOs after their prospect season ends, like a Barron or K'Andre would get the chance to play.
Let's hope they get in. Losing Chytil will make that tougher.
They're not a priority if the guys you're sending down legitimately have something to gain, but if we're just sending down a bunch of ringers... Then the other guys are a priority.
I mean Chytil will basically have 150 games of NHL experience. Same for Howden. Andersson will probably be around 120. Fox will have never even played on the AHL, in all likelihood, because he was so advanced a prospect that he skipped the league entirely! These guys will have no business in the AHL at the end of the year.
Now, Lindgren? Maybe. Hajek? Maybe. Kravtsov? Absolutely.
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In slightly different circumstances most of them if not all could’ve been playing in the AHL right now.
it obviously depends on the circumstances but none of these kids have experienced a professional playoff game and priority is the development of the best prospects. and you aren't going to be bumping top guys from the lineup that carried the team, you'd be bumping the fringe depth players...I'm not saying that they will, but just cause they are in the NHL doesn't mean that they can't still benefit from the experience of a playoff run in the AHL
i know that teams have done it in the past...it seems foreign to us cause hartford hasn't made the playoffs in a hundred years and till recently we made the playoffs every year so its been a lifetime since it was even an option
i know that teams have done it in the past...it seems foreign to us cause hartford hasn't made the playoffs in a hundred years and till recently we made the playoffs every year so its been a lifetime since it was even an option
obviously you aren't sending them down to be ringers...if they cared about winning the calder cup they would have spent the $$ on more AAAA guys that are guaranteed to be there. if you are sending guys down it is 100000% because you think it will benefit them and make them better players going forward
Ok, then look at Brett Howden--dude was shit basically all of last year and never went down. You think they'll send him down at the end of his second full NHL season after (presumably) not sending him down to that point? Fox never needed the AHL. To think the Rangers will decide he will gain from it at the end of his first full year? He already looks like a stud. Chytil went down to start the year to work on his game. If he doesn't go back down between now and then, wouldn't that be a reasonable indication that they think he has exhausted his development down there?
they didn't send howden down cause the pack were a shitshow and they felt it was better for him to play in NY than the AHL. completely unrelated comparison if hartford is good AND the rangers are done so his options are playing in the AHL or going home for the summer its a completely different story.
do you honestly think that if hartford made the playoffs last year that they would haven't have sent howden, chytil and andersson down there? the only reason they didn't do it is cause it wasn't an option
Did the organization state or even intimate Howden didn't go down because Hartford sucked? I must have missed that. They had no problem sending down the more-heralded Lias Andersson, so that seems kind of like a contradiction.
I mean I'm sure they would have sent those guys down had Hartford made the playoffs. That's not addressing my point, though. My point is that NOW (or actually, at the end of the year), a full YEAR later, those guys most likely will not need anything Hartford has to offer. Again, what they would have done last year is irrelevant to what they should do this year.
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Hartford lost 2-1 in shootout. Adam Huska was really phenomenal. Could have been 5-1 game. He really made some impressive stops on some D breakdowns.
Laval just has a bit more offensive punch than Hartford does. But the games are really close. Most of the D had a good game. Geertsen was really noticeable all game throwing his weight around. Got an assist and had a goal waved off basically because he shoved the goalie to the ice then deflected a shot from Keane. Point is, he's big and feisty and when he plays with an edge the other team pays attention.
For the most part, Hartford stays on the right side of the puck all game. Very little cheating. But given their lack of high end minor skill, it's a struggle right now to score. The two most offensively skilled players are O'Regan and Newell, but they haven't gotten to the middle enough.
At the end of the day though, tonight was the Adam Huska show. Hartford's goalies really are two of the best at this level.
Laval just has a bit more offensive punch than Hartford does. But the games are really close. Most of the D had a good game. Geertsen was really noticeable all game throwing his weight around. Got an assist and had a goal waved off basically because he shoved the goalie to the ice then deflected a shot from Keane. Point is, he's big and feisty and when he plays with an edge the other team pays attention.
For the most part, Hartford stays on the right side of the puck all game. Very little cheating. But given their lack of high end minor skill, it's a struggle right now to score. The two most offensively skilled players are O'Regan and Newell, but they haven't gotten to the middle enough.
At the end of the day though, tonight was the Adam Huska show. Hartford's goalies really are two of the best at this level.
Skinnyjimmy08
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Where is Ryan Gropp? Shows on hockeydb that he has played 1 game in AHL this season but no longer on the team
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He got sent to the ECHL, never reported, and was suspended by the team, I believe.
Yeah which is ridiculous. Had he reported, there's a good chance he'd have come up when Chytil went up (since it doesn't seem like the Rangers actually care for Ronning) and he could be contributing right now. Instead, this.
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