Hansen Punishment - Suspended 1 Game

[luongo321]

Looking back through Shannahan's abysmal record of one game suspension and no game suspensions, it's pretty Hansen's incident doesn't belong there.

Hansen would have gotten a 70 game suspension if he did that to hossa.

 

[thepuckmonster]

I really think a committee of peers would be far more effective in these kind of disciplinary situations. A chosen representative player from each time (minus the two teams involved) decide the outcome of punishment.

Like a jury.

 

[Hammer Time]

I don't think Shanahan's explanation was a joke. Looking at the video you can pretty clearly see Hansen bump Hossa with a motion that wasn't him going for the puck.

My guess is Hansen was trying to push Hossa in the shoulder to get position on him but got him in the head accidentally. I still think it was a nothing play that wouldn't have turned into anything if Hossa's head wasn't made of glass, but like in real life, it's generally the results of negligence that determine whether someone is punished or not.

There was a degree of negligence to that play, same as if you high stick someone and draw blood, it's 4 minutes, intentional or not. The judgement actually sounds pretty fair to me.

 

[Ainec]

saw it coming as it is on a Canucks player

I'm done

 

[M A K A V E L I*]

It would be hilarious if someone did a Weber style turnbuckle smash and waited for Shanahan's suspension. Wonder if we would expose himself as a night & day hypocrite with that.

 

[Dado]

One game seems fair. I'm ok with this.

 

[nameless1]

Pandering to stars.
It is what it is.
It is a token suspension.

I have no problem with the play.
I see it as part of Hansen's compete level.
If he is crazy enough to crosscheck a ref...

Going for the puck, even if he has no chance at it, is just child's play for him.

Only sucks that Hansen will now be watched carefully.
Honey Badger just doesn't care.

 

[palefire]

Looking back through Shannahan's abysmal record of one game suspension and no game suspensions, it's pretty Hansen's incident doesn't belong there.

But wasn't that a playoff game? If so, apples and oranges.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Pandering to stars.
It is what it is.
It is a token suspension.

I have no problem with the play.
I see it as part of Hansen's compete level.
If he is crazy enough to crosscheck a ref...

Going for the puck, even if he has no chance at it, is just child's play for him.

Only sucks that Hansen will now be watched carefully.
Honey Badger just doesn't care.

I like he played the rest of that game. I hope he doesn't change his play.

 

[parabola]

I don't agree with it, but the explanation of why he's suspended was good enough for me.

 

[sk8er]

One game seems fair. I'm ok with this.

How in gods name is that fair? It's pure ******** is what it is.
There was no intent there at all, what bollig did was far worse in my opinion........
I'm actually quite speechless

 

[vancityluongo]

Hmm. I was expecting four games in the SCF.

 

[Respect Your Edler]

This is a disgrace. This league is second only to the NBA in terms of poor officiating standards. He was standing still, and going for the puck. It was about as malicious as a high stick.

 

[Karl Hungus]

Can't say I'm surprised. That's just the bush league politics of the NHL.

The NHL reacts to whatever the US media says, and too much of the interpretation of what happens on the ice left up to Pierre McGuire and Ed Olczyk to decide. They don't even pretend to be objective about it and the NHL still reacts to their outrage.

 

[Jyrki]

That's bullsh*t. Fowler? Landeskog? Kaleta? Cooke? there are dozens of examples this year where they just overlook it and dozens more they will overlook. This will be a one off, just like every other one off.

I'm still pissed at the wording of Shanahan, it's as if he hasn't even looked at the video. Hansen didn't full extend his arm until after he hit because Hossa ****ing skated into while he was doing it ffs.

It is what it is. The outcome of the play has an impact on the final judgement and the last thing the NHL wants is for players to start going after injury-prone stars trying to emulate what Cooke and Hansen did.

Does Torres even get suspended (for the Hossa hit) if he hit say, a guy like Bolland and he doesn't get injured? Probably not. That's why the refs didn't even call a penalty on the play. But Shanahan let the hammer loose because a) Hossa got concussed b) Torres had a lengthy history. Two factors that have nothing to do with the play itself were 95% of the judgement.

I'm going to get **** for this, but does Marchand get suspended if he doesn't submarine an injury prone player like Salo? If it was IDK Burrows it's a 2 or 5 minutes clipping penalty.

 

[Snatcher Demko]

Total BS. Ah well, par for the course for the NHL.

You know it was a sympathy suspension.

If Shanahan really thought Hansen wanted to knock Hossa out with a forearm (ie truly malicious), then Hansen should have gotten 3+ games.

The only way to beat the Hawks is to be smart defensively and physical, and I hope this motivates the Canucks to do that.

 

[ddawg1950]

I really think a committee of peers would be far more effective in these kind of disciplinary situations. A chosen representative player from each time (minus the two teams involved) decide the outcome of punishment.

Like a jury.

Be a conflict of interest.

 

[Dado]

There was no intent there at all...

He punched a guy in the back of the head. Intent or no intent, that's not a cool move, he needs to be more responsible with his fists.

I'm fine with 1 game.

Sure, there are other incidents that should also be looked at.

 

[miked1101]

Be a conflict of interest.

With all the money flying around the league, everything is a conflict of interest I'm sure.

 

[DL44]

Saw the Shanny video and i gotta say I'm glad it was only one game.

When you see it HD super slow mo you clearly see Hansen's transition from 'attempt to go for the puck' to 'he's got it, let's hit him'.

- It was a split second move.
- he obviously had Zero premeditation
- It was reckless, but a function of the continuation of raising his arm for the puck to transitioning to a hit in mere split second.. Don't think he could of had significant control of the vector of his hit...

But at the end of day it was a definite 'sharp elbow' to the back of the head that is illegal and led to an injury...

Not much else to say...
Glad it was just 1 game.

Just another chapter of the Hawks-Nucks saga.

 

[UlaTek]

I don't think Shanahan's explanation was a joke. Looking at the video you can pretty clearly see Hansen bump Hossa with a motion that wasn't him going for the puck.

My guess is Hansen was trying to push Hossa in the shoulder to get position on him but got him in the head accidentally. I still think it was a nothing play that wouldn't have turned into anything if Hossa's head wasn't made of glass, but like in real life, it's generally the results of negligence that determine whether someone is punished or not.

Pretty much this.

I don't like the suspension, a fine should have been sufficient, but I do get the reasoning behind it. Like an errant high stick, a player has to be responsible for his actions. Intended or not.

Welcome to today's NHL

 

[enuck]

I really think a committee of peers would be far more effective in these kind of disciplinary situations. A chosen representative player from each time (minus the two teams involved) decide the outcome of punishment.

Like a jury.

I agree, a committee of one is easier to influence.

 

[Lindt]

Can anyone explain why Bollig's headshots on Weise are not deemed worth even looking at in terms of supplementary discipline?

Closed fist - check
Intent to injure - check
Headshot - check
Goon - check

Weise wasn't prepared to fight until Bollig had already landed a few shots on him. If he got concussed as a result what would happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A--LwA3sl0

 

[EpochLink]

1 game is fine, meh can't go away empty handed

 

[Karl Hungus]

With all the money flying around the league, everything is a conflict of interest I'm sure.

I'm sure that some GMs have Shannahan's ear more than others.

It really seems that whatever our players do something borderline against a team being covered on NBC or whoever Pierre McGuire flips out like he just saw the most heinous act ever. This immediately puts pressure on the NHL to hand out a suspension so there's a happy ending to Pierre's story. If one of the Hawks does something borderline it's always called for because of the code, or some other BS he wants to sell as part of the game's narrative.