Confirmed with Link: Hall (50% retained) and Speers to Arizona for 1st, conditional pick, Bahl, Merkley and Schnarr

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billingtons ghost

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There's some upside to the 2020 first since the Coyotes are by no means a sure bet for the playoffs.

Not excited at all about Kevin Bahl or these other guys.

Overall I feel slightly underwhelmed because I thought getting a closer to NHL ready, second tier prospect was possible. Getting the 2020 first with only top 3 protection adds some upside, though, so I guess that helps.

I don't know, whatever. This is fine I guess, but just feels like a sad coda to the end of Hall's time in Jersey.

^This in spades.
Thanks Ma, I was hoping to get a new iPad or something, but these three different pairs of socks are nice, I guess.
 

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tempering expectations, i assume merkley and schnarr are AHL depth with potential. they're not the main focus and we shouldn't be looking for them to be blue chip prospects

Merkley is basically what we already have except he gets hurt to boot. But he's still considered a solid prospect; its just he really is a lot of what we have.

I'm at least intrigued by Schnarr at this point. Big dude, first year in AHL. Hasn't found a goal scoring touch yet, but he's not been a disaster.
 
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I am was afraid of this statement:
"He’s an excellent skater and has good mobility for a big man."
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October 2019- Bahl played very well for Canada at the 2019 World Junior Summer Showcase and is expected to make the main team for the 2020 tournament coming in a couple months. In the meantime, Bahl was impressive in the Coyotes rookie tournament and has gotten off to a solid start offensively in his last year of juniors, scoring two goals and four points in nine games. Keith Duggan
March 2019- The Coyotes have signed their 2018 second-round pick to a entry-level contract. Bahl wanted to bring more offense to his game and showed that this season, scoring six goals and 34 points in 68 games. That was more than his two previous campaign’s combined. While it was great to see his game growing, Bahl still seems more of a defensive defenseman who won’t contribute much offense at the NHL level. Keith Duggan
August 2018- At 6-6 and 230 lbs, Kevin Bahl is a large man. He’s also expected to grow maybe another inch or so along with putting on some more weight and muscle on his growing body. Ten years ago you could make a strong case Bahl would have easily been a first round pick. Instead with the NHL all about mobile, quick transition defenseman now, he slipped to the Coyotes in the second round of the 2018 draft. That’s not to say Bahl is a big lug on the ice basically there to take up space. He’s an excellent skater and has good mobility for a big man. Bahl worked with former Coyotes skating coach Dawn Braid and admits she had a huge influence on him. Playing for the Ottawa 67’s the past two seasons he’s never really racked up the points though. Bahl finished last year with a line of 1-17-18, and although he has shown improvements offensively, it really isn’t part of his game. He admits it’s a weakness for him and said it’s something he’ll work on this summer and coming season. In the meantime, Bahl is one of the premier shutdown defenders in the OHL and his calm nature was a steadying influence on Ottawa’s blue line. With several smaller, puck moving defenseman in the Coyotes system, Bahl is a perfect compliment to them. Unfortunately, fantasy wise Bahl doesn’t offer much other than in deep leagues that count stats like hits, blocked shots and penalty minutes. Keith Duggan

Isn't that generally code for "He's not a great skater, but for a big guy he can move a little."? I hate that qualifier. Either you are a good skater or you aren't.
 
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I would imagine that 1st round pick is going to be used in a trade for a player in the offseason. Shero can’t afford another terrible year.
 

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Merkley is basically what we already have except he gets hurt to boot. But he's still considered a solid prospect; its just he really is a lot of what we have.

I'm at least intrigued by Schnarr at this point. Big dude, first year in AHL. Hasn't found a goal scoring touch yet, but he's not been a disaster.
i have optimism for merkely honestly. puts up points.
 
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Isn't that generally code for "He's not a great skater, but for a big guy he can move a little."? I hate that qualifier. Either you are a good skater or you aren't.

Quotes like that make me think of the apocryphal quote from Ty Cobb on Babe Ruth when someone asked him if he had anything nice to say about Ruth (who he hated), his response was 'Ruth ran okay for a fat man'.
 

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The first is the piece in this trade. You hit on it, you did fine. You don't hit on it, this will be a very ugly trade looking back on.
I don't see how this could ever be looked at as an ugly trade. The main piece of any Hall trade was going to be the 1st rounder. Whether they hit on it or not, it's better than losing him for absolutely nothing.
 
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So glad we got a first but, know not much about the rest...

So I guess this is good in mid term....

Shrugs. Wish we got a roster player back that can fit in but i guess we so log jammed, McLeod will be thrilled to have a spot now...or most part have spot.
 
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NJDevs26

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Meh. Only $3 million. No big deal.

Yeah for this year, when we have cap space. There's literally no downside to it. I kinda wish they'd just taken back Raanta instead of retaining cap space but I guess they didn't want his contract through next year or Arizona wasn't ready to give up their backup yet.
 
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Merkley is basically what we already have except he gets hurt to boot. But he's still considered a solid prospect; its just he really is a lot of what we have.

I'm at least intrigued by Schnarr at this point. Big dude, first year in AHL. Hasn't found a goal scoring touch yet, but he's not been a disaster.


Which Merkley is it? Nick I'm assuming?
 

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That would dreadful and we should fire Shero immediately if he's thinking that way, hire a guy that's not trying to save his job.
I’d much rather have a proven quality player than a lottery ticket player that won’t be here for 3+ years. We can’t piss away years with Jack on his ELC.
 
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