Dreger: Halak available from Vancouver

[Gstank]

his value hinges largely on whether the trade happens before or after he hits his games played bonus. I can’t see many contenders willingly writing off $1.25m in dead cap space for next season.

I think we will just eat it. If it means getting a better return you definitely have to do it.
I may be over valuing him but dont think a 2nd is out of the question with retained money and us taking the 1.25 cap hit for next season

 

[BudBundy]

I’d rather run Skinner the rest of the year than spend a 7th round pick on Halak.

 

[Gstank]

I’d rather run Skinner the rest of the year than spend a 7th round pick on Halak.

Good luck making the playoffs then

 

[BudBundy]

Good luck making the playoffs then

Thanks! That’s very kind of you.

 

[elitepete]

I’d rather run Skinner the rest of the year than spend a 7th round pick on Halak.

Lmao.

 

[coopooter]

How many more years on Koskinen’s contract?

Expires this year

 

[BudBundy]

Lmao.

Skinner is 23, has been developed properly and had better numbers than Koskinen and Smith before they returned him to the AHL. They need to know what they have in him before committing precious cap space to a different solution in goal. So ya. Go LYAO.

 

[innitfam]

Eww koskinen with his cap hit? can't fit Canucks cap

In the right situation (ex. Canucks fall off and out of playoff contention, Oilers get it together and look playoff bound), and the cap can be made workable, I would 1000% do this.

 

[jackjohnson]

In the right situation (ex. Canucks fall off and out of playoff contention, Oilers get it together and look playoff bound), and the cap can be made workable, I would 1000% do this.

At this point the Oilers are only THREE points ahead of Canucks with same number of games played. THREE points lol. All these rival fans and analyst keep talking about how Canucks wont make playoffs...blah blah blah with 50 games remaining and Canucks being 5 points out from catching Flames for the 3rd spot in the division. Honestly, it seems more likely for Oilers to miss versus Canucks. I dont know why the bad 15 games the Canucks played under Green has been etched permanently in people's mind that they ignore the team's recent success. Its hilarious and on the other hand people still think Oilers will make the playoffs with no goaltending.

 

[jackjohnson]

I’d rather run Skinner the rest of the year than spend a 7th round pick on Halak.

Why would Canucks help a rival divisional team with a goalie when they can pass them in standings? Seriously for the Oilers the price will be a lot higher, more like a 1st round pick. Imagine Canucks give up Halak to Oilers for some low pick and then Halak helps them to beat Canucks to a playoff spot. Would be the stupidest trade the Canucks have done in the last decade or two.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Why would Canucks help a rival divisional team with a goalie when they can pass them in standings? Seriously for the Oilers the price will be a lot higher, more like a 1st round pick. Imagine Canucks give up Halak to Oilers for some low pick and then Halak helps them to beat Canucks to a playoff spot. Would be the stupidest trade the Canucks have done in the last decade or two.

Skinner is the solution, please continue to let them think this. That poster has my vote for new head coach as well.

 

[Sniped90]

To Edmonton: Halak and Chaisson

To Vancity: 1st, Koskinen and a prospect

hell no, thats way to much bob. oilers say no first, not only that van doesnt have the cap space. Oilers are helping vancouver out not the other way around.
to edm
Schenn
Halak @50%(because the whole world knows that once he hits that 10 game mark van cant afford that bonus, let alone oilers really cant but other moves would make it possible)

to van
turris
4th round pick 23'

 

[jackjohnson]

hell no, thats way to much bob. oilers say no first, not only that van doesnt have the cap space. Oilers are helping vancouver out not the other way around.
to edm
Schenn
Halak @50%(because the whole world knows that once he hits that 10 game mark van cant afford that bonus, let alone oilers really cant but other moves would make it possible)

to van
turris
4th round pick 23'

In your dreams for that trade to happen. Canucks get a 4th and retain on Halak lmao, and get Turris who is another cap dump. I guess whats next in your scenario is JR flying to Edmonton to help Holland wipe his backside. I think Canucks are very fine not trading Halak to Edmonton and letting Edmonton sink so Canucks can leap frog them Its well worth it for just keeping Halak to help out the Canucks down the road.

 

[gianni]

Skinner is 23, has been developed properly and had better numbers than Koskinen and Smith before they returned him to the AHL. They need to know what they have in him before committing precious cap space to a different solution in goal. So ya. Go LYAO.

Honest question, who's the last elite #1 goalie that the Oilers drafted & developed properly?

Also, "better numbers" doesn't always tell the whole story when it comes to goaltending. If the team doesn't have confidence in their goalie, they might play a less confident, more defensive brand of hockey that allows the goalie better numbers but limits the teams scoring on the other end. Ever play sports & have a newbie on the team that you feel the need to pick-up the slack for? It's like that.

The "sink or swim" method of throwing a goalie into the NHL works sometimes, but can also ruin a goalie. Took a long time for the Canucks to rehab Jacob Markstrom from an unclaimed waiver into an elite starter after the Panthers rushed him into the NHL.

 

[Sniped90]

In your dreams for that trade to happen. Canucks get a 4th and retain on Halak lmao, and get Turris who is another cap dump. I guess whats next in your scenario is JR flying to Edmonton to help Holland wipe his backside. I think Canucks are very fine not trading Halak to Edmonton and letting Edmonton sink so Canucks can leap frog them Its well worth it for just keeping Halak to help out the Canucks down the road.

maybe add a 2nd but that would be it, vancouver cant risk losing any money cap wise for next year is they want to take a chance at resigning boser, and still filling up a back up position because from the looks of it dipietro isnt close to being ready for that spot.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I’d rather run Skinner the rest of the year than spend a 7th round pick on Halak.

Lmao this is why you’ll never win with Mcdavid and Drai. Continuously refusing to give them help by sacrificing the future.

 

[BudBundy]

Honest question, who's the last elite #1 goalie that the Oilers drafted & developed properly?

Also, "better numbers" doesn't always tell the whole story when it comes to goaltending. If the team doesn't have confidence in their goalie, they might play a less confident, more defensive brand of hockey that allows the goalie better numbers but limits the teams scoring on the other end. Ever play sports & have a newbie on the team that you feel the need to pick-up the slack for? It's like that.

The "sink or swim" method of throwing a goalie into the NHL works sometimes, but can also ruin a goalie. Took a long time for the Canucks to rehab Jacob Markstrom from an unclaimed waiver into an elite starter after the Panthers rushed him into the NHL.

Skinner is 23, has Smith to split duty or back him up, and I watched all his starts. It’s more than numbers, he’s looked calm and capable between the pipes. Are you saying we shouldn’t run with him and see what we’ve got because Jaro Halak is going to come in and solve things for us? Which is the more reasonable stance? If Skinner can carry the mail, it can help turn around the season and more importantly it helps solve a huge log jam in terms of cap space coming this summer.

 

[BudBundy]

Lmao this is why you’ll never win with Mcdavid and Drai. Continuously refusing to give them help by sacrificing the future.

Get back to me when the Canucks win anything. Chiarelli tried to “jump start” things and “win now” and look where that got us.

 

[BudBundy]

Skinner is the solution, please continue to let them think this. That poster has my vote for new head coach as well.

Skinner might not be the solution, but he’s shown enough that it’s worth trying. It’s at least as reasonable as wasting an asset and precious cap space on a 36 yr old career backup. The level of butthurt you’ve got because I don’t think Halak is our best option is amusing.

 

[BudBundy]

Why would Canucks help a rival divisional team with a goalie when they can pass them in standings? Seriously for the Oilers the price will be a lot higher, more like a 1st round pick. Imagine Canucks give up Halak to Oilers for some low pick and then Halak helps them to beat Canucks to a playoff spot. Would be the stupidest trade the Canucks have done in the last decade or two.

Oh, I don’t know about that. The trade for Ekman-Larsson isn’t 21 years old.

 

[SpitfireG]

Halak is definitly a best possible available addition per value and per money for any team aspiring playoff or cup contender during couple last years. Particulary with current high risks with Covid.
Canucs GM will get on the table a waste range of options to trade him.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

That still cracks me up, all these years later.

I still wonder if he was on Pornhub or something.

 

[SpitfireG]

I think Halak is probably the best name out there for available goalies.

-He has a low cap hit
-only signed for the rest of he season
-having a fantastic season statistcally
-has a boat load of playoff experience
-Backups will be in high demand with how loaded the back half of the schedule is

He is better than half 1A goalie starter and 22th in the league history by SV%. It will a real steal prior playoff.

 

[SpitfireG]

Options to trade

 

[Canuck86]

He asked for trade.

who did, Halak?