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GoAwayPanarin said:
It's not.

It's going to tempt Lavi to scratch Cuylle to spark the team though.
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not Cuylle. he's shown himself to be mentally strong. he'd take a scratch in stride, say all the right things, chin held high.

No, Laviolette droopy spaniel eyes are glinting towards another player. One who is vulnerable. One whose status is already slightly compromised. One who's largely not responsible for the loss.

"Hmm, who shall it be," he muses evilly. "He has to be young and damaged. For the team to respond to the scratch, it really has to hurt.."

Then a bolt of realization strikes him, and Coach chuckles softly. He turns slowly to the bald, hairless, familiar groveling at his feet. A pitiful creature.

"Dan," Coach commands as he regards the imp's glabrous carapace. "Bring me Arthur."
 
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GoAwayPanarin said:
I don't think he's anticipating Kreider rolling out the red carpet for Guhle.

You can't expect him to account for all 3 Habs on the ice.
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2 Canadians on his right covered by a forward. Why stay left? The play is all in front of him. As I said earlier, the 3rd guy stayed at the blue line - not a threat. The only threat was on the other side, He has to start cheating that way and he never did.
 
GoAwayPanarin said:
I don't think he's anticipating Kreider rolling out the red carpet for Guhle.

You can't expect him to account for all 3 Habs on the ice.
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Yeah the Rangers were in trouble when they allowed Laine to cross the blue line with speed. He's big and much faster than he looks once he gets going.
 
Moneypuck FWIW has us beating the Habs at all strengths but not 5v5.

That one Kreider goal had to be 0.9+. He had an open net from about a foot out.

Sometimes where the shot attempts actually come from can lead to misleading results.
 
SnowblindNYR said:
The only team other than the Rangers where having good players in sneered at are the Oilers. I don't get it. Rangers had good players is somehow a cheat code. When the Penguins win three cups with the top 2 centers in the world everyone is treating their body like an amusement park over their roster.
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To me this is because the Rangers weakness has historically been 5v5 play while they beat teams in every other situation. Since 5v5 is the majority of the game, the Rangers have made it a bit of an art form playing rope-a-dope winning games.

Goaltending certainly played a big part which makes the 5v5 play look even worse because we're constantly getting bailed out.

This year, their PP being ass has exposed them as it was one of their "cheat codes" along with stellar goaltending. While I still believe they've had good goaltending this year (we'll agree to disagree), the defense was atrocious during most of the first half of the season.

Until this team is able to go toe-to-toe with the best teams in 5v5, the chances of winning the cup is going to remain a significant long shot.
 
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80s Kid said:
To me this is because the Rangers weakness has historically been 5v5 play while they beat teams in every other situation. Since 5v5 is the majority of the game, the Rangers have made it a bit of an art form playing rope-a-dope winning games.

Goaltending certainly played a big part which makes the 5v5 play look even worse because we're constantly getting bailed out.

This year, their PP being ass has exposed them as it was one of their "cheat codes" along with stellar goaltending. While I still believe they've had good goaltending this year (we'll agree to disagree), the defense was atrocious during most of the first half of the season.

Until this team is able to go toe-to-toe with the best teams in 5v5, the chances of winning the cup is going to remain a significant long shot.
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how are they at 5v5 vs last year?
 
hardnosed said:
2 Canadians on his right covered by a forward. Why stay left? The play is all in front of him. As I said earlier, the 3rd guy stayed at the blue line - not a threat. The only threat was on the other side, He has to start cheating that way and he never did.
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Because you can't assume that the other guys aren't going to do their jobs.

It's not as easy a read as you think because Kreider was actually positioned to snuff that rush out until he wasn't.

Like Chytil clearly should have stayed with Laine and released for what ever reason but I'd actually put most of the blame here on Kreider because this doesn't become anything if he doesn't let it.
 
GoAwayPanarin said:
Because you can't assume that the other guys aren't going to do their jobs.

It's not as easy a read as you think because Kreider was actually positioned to snuff that rush out until he wasn't.

Like Chytil clearly should have stayed with Laine and released for what ever reason but I'd actually put most of the blame here on Kreider because this doesn't become anything if he doesn't let it.
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He wasn't needed where he was, first of all. Secondly, when Laine charges to the net, who did he expect to get him? Fil removed himself from the play at the blue line. He's backing up. The play is right in front of him. It doesn't hurt anything to take a step or two right.
Miller is great defending the guy with the puck 1 on 1 with his size, speed and reach. But he just doesn't process where the most dangerous threat is coming from.
 
noncents said:
how are they at 5v5 vs last year?
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I don't have the data in front of me so I'm admittedly shooting from the hip. Feel free to prove me wrong but I doubt this team has been good 5v5.

However, my personal belief is that your team can't have any glaring weaknesses if you want to win it all. I believe it was Kreider who said your weaknesses get exposed more come playoff time. Also believe MH on this forum has said "don't sign bad players" or something to that effect.

I'm actually okay with the Igor signing because he's a really good player. His salary being high just puts more pressure on Drury to not sign bad players because there's less $ to work with.

I also believe people aren't taking future cap increases into account, at least not enough. The cap going flat from Covid screwed a lot of teams but it wasn't normal. Inflation is real and we're going to see it reflected in future cap increases.
 
hardnosed said:
He wasn't needed where he was, first of all. Secondly, when Laine charges to the net, who did he expect to get him? Fil removed himself from the play at the blue line. He's backing up. The play is right in front of him. It doesn't hurt anything to take a step or two right.
Miller is great defending the guy with the puck 1 on 1 with his size, speed and reach. But he just doesn't process where the most dangerous threat is coming from.
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Yeah this is incredibly nit picky and 100% captain hindsight-y.

Are we really going to point the finger at Miller when the other 2 players clearly made egregious errors? I can guarantee had he done what you proposed and the puck ends up getting over to Evans (I think it was him) and he's able to walk in and score the conversation turns to why he isn't shaded towards his assignment.

Again, you cannot expect him to do his job and the job of the other 2 people.
 
80s Kid said:
I don't have the data in front of me so I'm admittedly shooting from the hip. Feel free to prove me wrong but I doubt this team has been good 5v5.

However, my personal belief is that your team can't have any glaring weaknesses if you want to win it all. I believe it was Kreider who said your weaknesses get exposed more come playoff time. Also believe MH on this forum has said "don't sign bad players" or something to that effect.

I'm actually okay with the Igor signing because he's a really good player. His salary being high just puts more pressure on Drury to not sign bad players because there's less $ to work with.

I also believe people aren't taking future cap increases into account, at least not enough. The cap going flat from Covid screwed a lot of teams but it wasn't normal. Inflation is real and we're going to see it reflected in future cap increases.
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I think people are conflating a very good ceiling or a very good player at his best with a very good player. Igor at his best rivals Hank. His consistency is just not good. That's why 11.5M is ridiculous.
 
GoAwayPanarin said:
Yeah this is incredibly nit picky and 100% captain hindsight-y.

Are we really going to point the finger at Miller when the other 2 players clearly made egregious errors? I can guarantee had he done what you proposed and the puck ends up getting over to Evans (I think it was him) and he's able to walk in and score the conversation turns to why he isn't shaded towards his assignment.

Again, you cannot expect him to do his job and the job of the other 2 people.
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There was only one threat. The 3rd guy stayed at the blue line. Miller didn't take anybody You can't just allow Laine to plow to the net without any resistance.
 
Machinehead said:
I am slightly alarmed that Fox seems to be turning a bit stupid like all of the talented players that play for this team. Something seriously smells here.

But I would definitely hang onto him.
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As bad as it is now,even thinking about moving Fox should be a crime against humanity and fireable offense.Fix the rotting stink in this organization as opposed to moving your franchise player
 
mrmovies779 said:
As bad as it is now,even thinking about moving Fox should be a crime against humanity and fireable offense.Fix the rotting stink in this organization as opposed to moving your franchise player
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I agree. I could be convinced on hanging onto Laf too to see what he can be. The culture sucks and they need real change.
 
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I anyone else getting tired of watching Chytil try to stick handle through all 5 players when he carries the puck up the ice to only turn it over at the blue line and cause the play to go the other way. He rarely passes the puck and on every odd man rush he is always shooting the puck even when it’s a low percentage play. He needs the dump the puck in and go after it on the forecheck. It’s exhausting watching him turn it over all night

Krieder also has no business being out 3 on 3.

So many other players should be out there over him
 
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Machinehead said:
I am slightly alarmed that Fox seems to be turning a bit stupid like all of the talented players that play for this team. Something seriously smells here.

But I would definitely hang onto him.
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Thats Lindgren.

I'd be more alarmed if he didn't instantly morph into Lidstrom away from him. RL had strung together a nice little stretch where he didn't get carved defensively and... just stayed out of the way on offense but thats pretty much been shifting back to what it has been for the most of the last 2 seasons. The defensive numbers look really, really rough since the Chicago game.
 
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