Habs vs Wings

[Pavels Dog]

Nothing delusional about it. Edvinsson is the same size as Hedman and is objectively playing better defense than Hedman was at the same age. however he is not even in the same galaxy as Hedman offensively and he’s almost certainly not going to get there either.

Hedman at 18 in the SHL: 21 points in 43 games
Edvinsson at 18 in the SHL: 19 points in 44 games

Hedman at 21 in the NHL: 23 points in 61 games
Edvinsson at 21 in the NHL: 21 points in 50 games

Hedman currently - 25 EVP
Edvinsson - 20 EVP

Totally fair and reasonable to not expect Edvinsson to develop into a top PP QB like Hedman did, but I have no idea why we have to pretend they're not "in the same galaxy".

 

[RedHawkDown]

Hedman at 18 in the SHL: 21 points in 43 games
Edvinsson at 18 in the SHL: 19 points in 44 games

Hedman at 21 in the NHL: 23 points in 61 games
Edvinsson at 21 in the NHL: 21 points in 50 games

Hedman currently - 25 EVP
Edvinsson - 20 EVP

Totally fair and reasonable to not expect Edvinsson to develop into a top PP QB like Hedman did, but I have no idea why we have to pretend they're not "in the same galaxy".

You’re right. Really just limiting my expectations but the stats are similar so far.

 

[dukeofjive]

Not sure how Detroit fans feel about there team, but this habs fan is loving the way the kids are growing and having fun on the ice.

Breath of fresh air compared to bargain bin days.

 

[schuelma24]

Not sure how Detroit fans feel about there team, but this habs fan is loving the way the kids are growing and having fun on the ice.

Breath of fresh air compared to bargain bin days.

Considering the recent run has been driven by the core and the young kids, Wings fans are feeling pretty good as well.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Dach isn’t good and Laine just got benched again. This is for all the habs fans insisting laine was going to be different for them and that dach will actually be a difference maker. It’s funny how as soon as habs fans started to try and make fun of Detroit and gloat about their team, they tanked down the standings and Detroit passed them while winning head to head. Montreal has absolutely great prospects and are on the right track, but the way some Montreal fans were talking about them in comparison to Detroit was insane. Detroit is ahead right now, but that could change in the future.

 

[NikolaTesla]

Those teams are really close.

 

[ole ole]

Dach isn’t good and Laine just got benched again. This is for all the habs fans insisting laine was going to be different for them and that dach will actually be a difference maker. It’s funny how as soon as habs fans started to try and make fun of Detroit and gloat about their team, they tanked down the standings and Detroit passed them while winning head to head. Montreal has absolutely great prospects and are on the right track, but the way some Montreal fans were talking about them in comparison to Detroit was insane. Detroit is ahead right now, but that could change in the future.

They are neck and neck in the standings but Detroit is somehow ahead. Detroit fan i presume.

 

[Michoulicious]

Very close in the standings, but Habs current core is a bit younger and they have by far the best prospect (Demidov), so I think they win.

 

[Fatass]

Very close in the standings, but Habs current core is a bit younger and they have by far the best prospect (Demidov), so I think they win.

Agreed. I also think the Habs have the best young D man, Hutson. Wings have good players too, but Hutson (imo) is the difference maker.

 

[Michoulicious]

Agreed. I also think the Habs have the best young D man, Hutson. Wings have good players too, but Hutson (imo) is the difference maker.

Seider is pretty awesome as well.

 

[Fatass]

Seider is pretty awesome as well.

Yup. Seider is a solid defender. He's not Hutson though.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

 

[Crunchy]

Oh wow, they called up a guy with 5 goals in 38 AHL games. He's tall, though! Can't wait to tune in!

23 yrs, 6' 8", 250 lbs

 

[Doom Bot]

23 yrs, 6' 8", 250 lbs

Holy f*** that guys huge. Was he just useless in his draft year why did he not go higher

 

[HabzSauce]

They're so close. Built very similarly too - both lacking another top end 1/2C to help Larkin and Suzuki. Good bottom 6 tho. Average goaltending but bright future.

Momtenbault > wings goalies
Dobes & Fowler | Cossa & Augustine (up for debate)

Habs have CC, wings have debincrat
Habs have hutson, wings have Seider.

Habs also have Demidov and Reinbacher lurking in the background. Don't know enough about wings prospects to comment but I feel real good about the Habs right now.

It's neck and neck currently but i do expect the gap to widen in favor of Habs come next hear once we get our two recent #5 picks on the roster

 

[Coffee]

23 yrs, 6' 8", 250 lbs

HOLY where did this guy come from!!?? @TheMule93 @nbwingsfan @ voodoo skulls

 

[Crunchy]

Holy f*** that guys huge. Was he just useless in his draft year why did he not go higher

HOLY where did this guy come from!!?? @TheMule93 @nbwingsfan @ voodoo skulls

Hakan Anderson 6th round Swedish special. Huge 18 yr old with hands, poor skating, and sushi raw turned into an interesting NHL prospect. Figuring out how to throw his size around and disrupt with his reach this year it seems.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Habs have hutson, wings have Seider

and Edvinsson

 

[ole ole]

Very close in the standings, but Habs current core is a bit younger and they have by far the best prospect (Demidov), so I think they win.

This. Adding Demidov,Reinbacher Mailloux, Hage and Fowler in the near future.

 

[HabzSauce]

and Edvinsson

And Habs have Slafkovsky. Did forget to mention Raymond tho, he's solid

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Using the same logic, Roman Kantserov looks better than Demidov lol.

That is not logic, it is a joke. Kanteserov is a midget. If you watch NCAA you would see that hage has looked as good as Hagens on a much weaker team.

 

[Great Panda 2]

They're so close. Built very similarly too - both lacking another top end 1/2C to help Larkin and Suzuki. Good bottom 6 tho. Average goaltending but bright future.

Momtenbault > wings goalies
Dobes & Fowler | Cossa & Augustine (up for debate)

Habs have CC, wings have debincrat
Habs have hutson, wings have Seider.

Habs also have Demidov and Reinbacher lurking in the background. Don't know enough about wings prospects to comment but I feel real good about the Habs right now.

It's neck and neck currently but i do expect the gap to widen in favor of Habs come next hear once we get our two recent #5 picks on the roster

I gotta disagree with you on the goalie debate. While I appreciate the whole Fowler/ Augustine debate (I'm an Augustine preferer despite being a Habs fan), Cossa's potential is so much better than Dobes imo.

Also... Not sure I'd really compare Debrincat and Caufield outside of size, I'd say a better comparable to Caufield would be Raymond (with the very clear edge to Raymond). Debrincat is more of an upgrade on healthy Laine if you compare rosters, secondary scorers.

 

[HabzSauce]

I gotta disagree with you on the goalie debate. While I appreciate the whole Fowler/ Augustine debate (I'm an Augustine preferer despite being a Habs fan), Cossa's potential is so much better than Dobes imo.

Also... Not sure I'd really compare Debrincat and Caufield outside of size, I'd say a better comparable to Caufield would be Raymond (with the very clear edge to Raymond). Debrincat is more of an upgrade on healthy Laine if you compare rosters, secondary scorers.

Fair. Personally tho, Dobes is my fav out of all of them, including Fowler. Big, athletic & good mental. And he's already playing like a beast in the NHL.

CC and debrincat are both small, RW snipers. Id say that's a good comp. Raymond is in a world of his own, Habs don't have a comparable at the moment (unless we're banking on potential with Slaf)

 

[Doom Bot]

Fair. Personally tho, Dobes is my fav out of all of them, including Fowler. Big, athletic & good mental. And he's already playing like a beast in the NHL.

CC and debrincat are both small, RW snipers. Id say that's a good comp. Raymond is in a world of his own, Habs don't have a comparable at the moment (unless we're banking on potential with Slaf)

Demidov has to be the MTL answer to Raymond if their rebuild has any validity. Suzuki is more of a comparable to Larkin. Similar to the teams rebuild timelines themselves; most (not all) of the MTL comparables are a couple years younger than the DET guys.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Fair. Personally tho, Dobes is my fav out of all of them, including Fowler. Big, athletic & good mental. And he's already playing like a beast in the NHL.

CC and debrincat are both small, RW snipers. Id say that's a good comp. Raymond is in a world of his own, Habs don't have a comparable at the moment (unless we're banking on potential with Slaf)

I think Demidov is the Raymond comparable