Habs vs Wings

[norrisnick]

Difference is Yzerman signed those guys while Hughes didn't and accumulated picks with the available cap instead

I'm not sure that who signed them makes any difference to the now and the future. They are there and they are irrelevant.

 

[Doom Bot]

None of those guys are impeding Yzerman from retaining the young players he needs to retain, so the point is moot.

He essentially overpaid for vets to plug holes and try to keep the team at least playing competitive hockey to avoid settling into a loser mindset that comes with years of deliberate tanking.

I do agree that he could've done better at weaponizing cap. I was pounding the table to take on Monahan when he was sucking it up in Calgary, and that extra pick would be nice right about now. I'll give you that one.

Honest question; what is the generally accepted reason for that Walman trade? Was it purely a cap thing or more making room for a young guy?

 

[norrisnick]

Honest question; what is the generally accepted reason for that Walman trade? Was it purely a cap thing or more making room for a young guy?

Off-ice reasons. Questions regarding his commitment to rehab and getting back on the ice for the playoff push. Wasn't cap or roster spot related. Other more expensive players have been waived and sent to the AHL this season. If those were the reasons the same could have been done with Walman. The team simply didn't want him around anymore.

 

[Pavels Dog]

He probably will stop doing it yes but pro scouting seems to have been pretty poor for a while for you guys...

It's been hit and miss. The misses seem to get by far the most attention though. It would also seem like they value character a lot. Might not seem like much at the surface level but could impact the younger players positively in the long run.

Michael Hage is a better prospect than either Danielson or Kasper

He looks great but it's been half a season in the NCAA. His current PPG among U19 forwards in that league, since 2010, is right around Snuggerud, Bordeleau, Nadeau, Newhook, even Max Plante this season (only 7GP). It's also right below Dylan Larkin.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Honest question; what is the generally accepted reason for that Walman trade? Was it purely a cap thing or more making room for a young guy?

Only sense I can make of it is there was an off-ice issue, because he was far from our worst defenseman, and Yzerman already proved with Vrana that if he feels you're a negative influence he'll get rid of you quick.

 

[hardcorehabs]

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Using the same logic, Roman Kantserov looks better than Demidov lol.

15 months not 6, try again

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

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15 months not 6, try again

.75 PPG is not PPG. Try again.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Wings young D is currently better, Montreal has more offensive weapons coming through the pipeline. However, the best forward on either team is Raymond right now. I'd say these two are pretty close.

 

[newfy]

Detroit has the best 2 pieces in Raymond + Seider between the 2 teams. But they each have enough prospects with high upside, ad have had a lot of picks the last few seasons that it could still go either way depending on how some guys pan out.