GDT: Habs vs Sens

[Halakitlikethat]

Will be watching my first full game of the pre season. Should be interesting as this should be opening night line up.

Not going to get too bent out of shape with line combinations at this point, we know things will change throughout the season.

 

[Belial]

During preseason, sweet Jesus Christ. What a risk to have him play a role that suits his strengths, nothing can possibly go right and it'll surely cost us valuable points in the nonexistent standings.

And what are his strengths? Coasting on other players strengths? That's the problem.

 

[Habit11]

But what if it's at the detriment of other players/lines. I'm not saying don't try him, don't put him in a situation to succeed. But would you break three good lines to fit Galchenyuk somewhere without knowing if thoses three lines would still work ? Everyone on this board wants to see the kid have success and even be tried on the top line with Drouin. I think tonight we migth see a glimpse if they end up on the powerplay at the same time. But you have to admit that team found three lines that click together in a good way.

3 good lines? It's the preseason. As of today, no line has yet to demonstrate anything in a real game.

What we do know, unquestionably is that Pacioretty/Drouin/AG are the 3 best offensive forwards on the team. Assemble your top 6 around those facts. Hudon may struggle, Lehkonen may take a step back this year, Shaw and Byron are ok top 9 players.

The bar for top 6 talent league wide is set by Pitt/Edm and others, and the Habs' even with AG aren't at that level, and I'm supposed to think they inch closer by putting him of all players on THIS team in the bottom 9. It's so strange what they are doing with this guy.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Pacioretty

I don't think you understand how it works, the guy is struggling to impose himself against ECHLers and your solution is to throw him against the best defensive players in the league! Get a grip!

Your solution is for the the Habs to start the season with only 2 50+ pts forwards... maybe YOU should get a grip.

 

[Binary Code]

I brewed some coffee and added some homemade pumpkin spice (cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger) to the grounds before pouring the water over it. It's not bad. Goes well with the Buffalo Trace Bourbon Cream (think Bailey's, but with bourbon).

I'm going to make a clamato caesar with Polar Ice vodka and instead of salt on the rim i'm gonna put cinnamon.

YOU GOT NOTHING ON ME.

 

[Runner77]

Play him at a position he's more comfortable and successful with, since we know LW isn't his strength. Play him with players he's had success with, or at least ones who are more creative, and keep him with them when there's improvement.

Putting Galchenyuk on a 4th line is ludicrous (hopefully doesn't come to that). It didn't work last year and it won't work now. Galchenyuk has a lot of training camps under his belt, it's not as if he is fighting for a position. We know what he can do when he's healthy and right now, he should be. If he were to downspiral in games that actually mean something, then yeah, find him new linemates, talk to him, try different match ups, PP time, whatever it takes. But not now.

 

[ECWHSWI]

But what if it's at the detriment of other players/lines. I'm not saying don't try him, don't put him in a situation to succeed. But would you break three good lines to fit Galchenyuk somewhere without knowing if thoses three lines would still work ? Everyone on this board wants to see the kid have success and even be tried on the top line with Drouin. I think tonight we migth see a glimpse if they end up on the powerplay at the same time. But you have to admit that team found three lines that click together in a good way.

Habd have THREE good lines yet struggle to score 2 per game ? ? ? ?


so yeah, ANY line is fair game.

 

[TheBlindFan]

Except eller had more D zone faceoffs than anyone the last 3 years he played for us. Mitchell was getting a large number as well. Pleks got D duty, like eller had the years before. Just like when Pleks had 43 points in 2014 because he was taking more D coverage because of DD.

Ouf, did you check it? his last 3 years...

In order

Plekky 245 Games 1791 DZ faceoff (4885 total)
Eller 233 Games 806 DZ faceoff (2172 total)
DD 226 Games 698 DZ faceoff (3194 total)

Plekky has almost twice the number of faceoff Eller had in Def zone.
Desharnais is close to Eller... image that! (Okay

Plekky was simply at a other level compare to Eller btw.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...6&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=faceoffsTaken

and before you start with Eller was on a wing for one season

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?agg...mesPlayed,gte,1&sort=faceoffWinsDefensiveZone

That season by season, top of the habs

 

[ProspectsSTC]

And what are his strengths? Coasting on other players strengths? That's the problem.

He's not a line driver. That's not what I'm arguing. He plays well with puck movement in the offensive zone, good at slowing the play down on his off wing, and has an excellent one timer from the right. So you can see why people think it's idiotic to play him with guys who thrive on the rush on the left wing.

 

[MaxDummy]

But what if it's at the detriment of other players/lines. I'm not saying don't try him, don't put him in a situation to succeed. But would you break three good lines to fit Galchenyuk somewhere without knowing if thoses three lines would still work ? Everyone on this board wants to see the kid have success and even be tried on the top line with Drouin. I think tonight we migth see a glimpse if they end up on the powerplay at the same time. But you have to admit that team found three lines that click together in a good way.

If it's at a detriment of other line (wich I doubt since Chucky is doing jack **** anyway) then trade him.. Not hard. I'm just saying they should at least try it in preseason when it's meaningless for the standings. IF it doesn't work, do what's best for the team. The best for the team if they don't think he fit, IMO, is to put him in a position to succed to try to improve his value around the league

 

[Belial]

Go Habs Go and Go Chucky Go!

 

[SquiddFX]

I was blacked out of the game last night on TSN 2. But I can watch tonight's game on TSN 5. You can't explain that.

 

[scrubadam]

Game on! Last preseason is treated by most team as their opener. Time to shine boys...or not

You could almost say this is habs season opener since we start off on the road till the 10th of October.

 

[TheGame777]

3 good lines? It's the preseason. As of today, no line has yet to demonstrate anything in a real game.

What we do know, unquestionably is that Pacioretty/Drouin/AG are the 3 best offensive forwards on the team. Assemble your top 6 around those facts. Hudon may struggle, Lehkonen may take a step back this year, Shaw and Byron are ok top 9 players.

The bar for top 6 talent league wide is set by Pitt/Edm and others, and the Habs' even with AG aren't at that level, and I'm supposed to think they inch closer by putting him of all players on THIS team in the bottom 9. It's so strange what they are doing with this guy.

It was hypothetical...

Like everything else at this stage, we don't know what will happen we can only speculate.

Habd have THREE good lines yet struggle to score 2 per game ? ? ? ?


so yeah, ANY line is fair game.

Yes where each line played a game while being surrounded by ahl players.

You will tell me that Byron-Danault-Shaw wasn't good ?

That Plekanec's line wasn't good ?

The Drouin's line wasn't good ?

They didn't all play together in the same game. Tonight we will see a more complete team. But saying we scored two goals per game when we had one line in each game isn't fair statement...

 

[Uncle Gary]

Don't like that Holland was waived. Thought he was the best option for the 4th line C. Brought some size while having some skill.

 

[MaxDummy]

He's not a line driver. That's not what I'm arguing. He plays well with puck movement in the offensive zone, good at slowing the play down on his off wing, and has an excellent one timer from the right. So you can see why people think it's idiotic to play him with guys who thrive on the rush on the left wing.

Look at Ryder for exemple. He was an effective player when paired with a guy like Ribeiro or Savard or Krejci. Put him with Bégin or Yelle and he won't do ****. To me it's just logic..

 

[Belial]

Don't like that Holland was waived. Thought he was the best option for the 4th line C. Brought some size while having some skill.

Slow.

 

[CupInSIX]

Slow.

let's convert Byrone to a C

 

[Runner77]

Go back to watching RDS.

Hockey sticks have gone the way of synthetic materials but Carbonneau's tongue has remained wooden like an old Sherwood.

Carbonneau struggles to put two words together, it's painful.

 

[TheGame777]

If it's at a detriment of other line (wich I doubt since Chucky is doing jack **** anyway) then trade him.. Not hard. I'm just saying they should at least try it in preseason when it's meaningless for the standings. IF it doesn't work, do what's best for the team. The best for the team if they don't think he fit, IMO, is to put him in a position to succed to try to improve his value around the league

I agree with you on that.

 

[ECWHSWI]

It was hypothetical...

Like everything else at this stage, we don't know what will happen we can only speculate.




Yes where each line played a game while being surrounded by ahl players.

You will tell me that Byron-Danault-Shaw wasn't good ?

That Plekanec's line wasn't good ?

The Drouin's line wasn't good ?

They didn't all play together in the same game. Tonight we will see a more complete team. But saying we scored two goals per game when we had one line in each game isn't fair statement...

fair statement ???

here's a "fair statement" : The Habs as it is will have only 2 50+ forwards this season. You say the Habs have 3 good lines. The Habs will have 2 50+pts forwards this season, the Habs have 3 good lines, how good are these 3 lines really ?

 

[Belial]

let's convert Byrone to a C

Too small lol

 

[CupInSIX]

Habs win this 17-0

Shawzee triple hattrick
Drouin 5 points
Galchenyuk scores

 

[Habit11]

Look at Ryder for exemple. He was an effective player when paired with a guy like Ribeiro or Savard or Krejci. Put him with Bégin or Yelle and he won't do ****. To me it's just logic..

25 gp to start last season, he's in the top 10 in league scoring while playing half of those games with Pac/Gallagher and then Byron/Radulov. If this player no longer exists as some seem to be arguing, then boy did the GM waste a lot of money on him.

 

[Belial]

Hemsky's going to shine tonight book it!