Yes and no. MTL did not Go Full rebuild like SJS for example. They built on the 2017-2020 drafts with Suzuki CC Guhle Dobes acquiring Newhook Dach Dobson. This part of the core is in his prime so Technically they should be competitive now. There is no 1C in the pipeline so if you wait too much you risk missing your window.
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How about something something prospect swap with Caps.. Mironischenko (shoot first winger with size and checking game) for Reinbacher?
We are pretty stucked with prospect-wingers and a bit short on RD.
We are pretty stucked with prospect-wingers and a bit short on RD.
Djp
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They did not draft Suzuki…he was acquired from Vegas for patch
They had 2 top 5 picks —- yet that isn’t tanking….
I Like Miro but I don t see the Habs trading a recent 5OA pick for him at this stage. Usually RDs are worth more than wingers.
The fact if that if you compare SJS (which had nothing pre rebuild) and MTL they are not on the Same Timeline. Suzuki is 7 years older than Celebrini, hence the window for both teams is different.
And of course I know they did not draft Suzuki but he was here when New Management took over.
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Fire Bergevin...into the Sun
BLONG7
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Correct...........year 4 in the books, and they exceeded expectations..............the real heavy lifting starts at this years draft....
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lol Hronek isn’t even close to that return.. wtf is this
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What a bad take from the OP IMO. This Habs fan completely disagrees with it. Never post emotional takes right after a defeat in the Eastern finals. Despite the loss, this group is young and has a bright future. They need enough stability.
Some changes are required, trades will be made and prospects or picks will be sacrificed for upgrades. If we can get a true 2nd center, a physical RD and some energy guys with size, this would be a huge Summer.
Some changes are required, trades will be made and prospects or picks will be sacrificed for upgrades. If we can get a true 2nd center, a physical RD and some energy guys with size, this would be a huge Summer.
I would be surprised if Reinbacher is available but if he is, a team like San Jose could be an interesting spot for him and they could even deal with 1 year of Gallagher next year as part of the trade. The Sharks have the Edmonton 1st so could be used in the trade.
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This is essentially a Habs yard sale 
Some decent guys here a team may take a flyer on if you are just looking to clear space for a pick/prospect/similar player, but nothing that will move the needle (outside of maybe Reinbecher, who doesn't have the value he once had but I would argue is still a good prospect)
Some decent guys here a team may take a flyer on if you are just looking to clear space for a pick/prospect/similar player, but nothing that will move the needle (outside of maybe Reinbecher, who doesn't have the value he once had but I would argue is still a good prospect)
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That looks like an insane overpay to me . Wow
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The cost for hronek from you guys would be
2026 or 2027 1st (if 26 1st that super late at 29th OA)
1 of hage/pickford/zharkovsky (top prospect)
1 of Bolduc/Dach/Newhook/Engstrom/Kapanen (solid youngish nhler)
The 2 2nds are extra but 1 of them is for taking on Gallagher contract.
The other 2nd is likely a leaf fan tax to the habs to screw with them lol
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Basically 3 firsts, 2nd and a cap dump for a great prime low end 1D high end 2D defenseman on an insane contract.
Zharovsky isn't even allowed to come over next year either, so you can't dump Cole or Demidov and a 1st or two for an even better d man.
But yeah that's pretty much the cost, you can argue for retention or take a 2nd off, but it's right around there.
TheKrebsCycle
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I think Zharovsky and a 1st is plenty . But I’m super high on him . To me Hronek is worth a low teen 1 st . Even the deal im “ dangling “is above that valuation . Why is it necessary that the player can contribute next year ? He’s enticing enough that he’s easily worth the delay
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I'd agree if he was coming over this year when he's clearly NHL ready, but he's not so it's not an asset that's usable right away (unlike other prospects in the 10-20 range who are in the NHL next year), but yeah they could ask for retention as well.
Let's just say he's right around the top end 2D or lowest end 1D (30-35), when Raddysh gets 12-14 million and Andersson gets 10+ million despite Raddysh having proved less and Andersson being worse I'd argue the cap savings of 4-6 million are enough to warrant some extra pieces (the 2nds, Engstrom which aren't exactly massive needle movers when Vancouver is taking a contract back).
Would I rather have Andersson/Raddysh at 12 CPA or Hronek and McMann or Laughton or Trouba. I guess you're paying either way if you're the Habs, in the first scenario you pay the market price but keep the assets, in the 2nd scenario you trade assets that can't be used rn and that your team doesn't really need (Cole+Demi kill RW progression) and you get an amazing contract+better player.
I guess they could also wait+ do nothing, but it feels kind of lame to basically say to Suzuki "yeah we're gonna do nothing, so you can probably expect the same thing next year as well, maybe in 2 years we'll be there"
should be competitive now ? just because there two years ahead of schedule with the youngest team in the league doesn’t mean it’s time to panic . we’ve only opened the blinds man . the window will be opening in 12-24 months after 4-5 more prominent pieces are added replacing some passengers .
That s my point, your schedule is wrong. You can t say you Target to be competitive when your 1C and 1D iare in their D+11 like you imply. Else the window is so short it May never open. They should be competitive now and it is good that they are..
Laine turning into that “who want me” memeOffers?
The only player in that dumpster that is worth ANYTHING is Reinbacher
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Now now, many of those guys are serviceable NHLers, but as the other post I quoted says, they won't fetch a high end piece, even if several are packaged.Offers?
The only player in that dumpster that is worth ANYTHING is Reinbacher
thanks for the headsup on my schedule . this whole time i never even realized i had one . i know our 1c is just 26 and just coming into his prime . who is our 1d in his d+11 year ?
He is soon to be 27, end of his D+9, so in two years will be his D+11. Dobson is in the Same year and was traded for as a 1D and paid as such.
well we may as well blow it all up and start a rebuild i guess since our 1d and 1c have aged out and havnt won a cup yet .
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