Post-Game Talk: Habs lose to the Rough Quacks 3-2

[tazsub3]

I'm not against moving anyone. Though if we see that Laine is not 100%, others will too. So his value would probably be next to nothing. Personally I'd give him the rest of the year.

laine 100 pct hurt , his stride slowed down dramatically last few games. I willing to bet he also need surgery. I will not go to low on him.

One thing makes me happy is we have a solid management. When we had our streak, they did not go too high and i am confident they wont go too low now.
Just stay the course.

 

[the]

Some people claimed Patrick Laine was a superstar and a core player until 2 weeks ago. Fun times.

I still think that’s the case.

 

[Habs10Habs]

laine 100 pct hurt , his stride slowed down dramatically last few games. I willing to bet he also need surgery. I will not go to low on him.

One thing makes me happy is we have a solid management. When we had our streak, they did not go too high and i am confident they wont go too low now.
Just stay the course.

I agree I don't think he's 100% right now. I just hope that if he's that seriously hurt. He would shut it down now.

Nicely said! Our management team didn't change their actions, when the team was playing bad, or during our great winning streak. I think we'll see more vital changes next year.

 

[Scriptor]

Which draft rankings should we consult? Desnoyers at #5 OA, really?

 

[OneSharpMarble]

Drama queens out in full force again with their panic "trade everyone!" Nonsense as usual. Some people just aren't cut out for the rebuild, they want to be a middling team that never achieved anything.

 

[Trabdy2]

I'm not sure we can fall to the bottom 4 at this point. There are a lot of garbage teams, especially in the west. But it might be time to bring back a tank thread.

Ugly game. We still don't seem to have a functioning 2nd line. Laine isn't a very strong 5 on 5 player, and Dach and Newhook just still trying to find their game to various degrees.

 

[badfish]

Not as good as the hot streak, not as bad as the current slump.

Side note though but Craig Button was unbearable to listen to tonight. I normally don't have a strong opinion on commentators either way but someone has to tell him the analyst/colour commentator is supposed to speak less than the play by play announcer. Mudryk, hardly responded once to Buttons one way pontification all night. I laughed my ass off when Button responded to Mudryk by saying, "I couldn't have said it better myself, Bryan," before going on to repeat what Mudryk had said in a slightly different way.

 

[Kimota]

I think when I watch teams like the Ducks their trolling and physicallity put them back in the game all the time. But we never ever do that. This team lacks an edge. And this is part will never get better with that coach.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Which draft rankings should we consult? Desnoyers at #5 OA, really?

Did I started something here?
I just listened to Snake Boisvert and he looked so sure of himself.
I will have to take a look at Desnoyer highlights and games reviews.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Reading these comments is painful.

Trade Laine, Dach, Newhook, Dvorak, Savard, Armia…

Get a grip

 

[BullLund]

Don't know why the coach doesn't just try to switch things up. 2nd line hasn't been working, maybe you can try to see if Laine finds some random Finnish chemistry with Armia or something.

 

[McGees]

Simon Snake Boivert said one of the best player in the next draft is Caleb Desnoyer. He says Desnoyer could become very fast the first center of the CH, ahead of Suzuki. He's projected to be picked 5h overall. Do you think he's that good and do you think Habs have what it takes in a trade to get the #5 pick? Or do you think Habs can drop enough to pick #5 anyway?

Or you think Simon Snake Boivert is in the potato fields (dans les patates, lol)?

Desnoyer is a riser and I think he ends up in top 5 if not then 6 or 7 latest.
No I don't think we end up in top 5, more likely 8-12.
We can speculate about trading up but the reality is you almost never see it as it costs too much.

 

[BeliveauFan4ever]

I don't think another team would be interested unless we retain most of his salary. Caufield is our best scorer and is always trying to generate something out there, Laine wouldn't have that impact and if anything would cause Suzuki to alter his game. I don't think that Slaf is even a good complement to that line. The player I would try with them is Heineman, his speed, size, shot and physical game would be a better option than either. I don't think they will do it but they should be open to experimenting with the players on this team.

Yessir.

When things aren’t working, you try new things. Heineman w/ Suzuki and Caufield…very interesting.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

This season is the best, we get 2 tank seasons and 1 in the mix season all in one season

 

[RationalExpectations]

Drama queens out in full force again with their panic "trade everyone!" Nonsense as usual. Some people just aren't cut out for the rebuild, they want to be a middling team that never achieved anything.

How many rebuilds start with a Suzuki a CC a Guhle, a Romanov in their ranks ? Some people here are talking as is the Habs were starting from scratch like CHI or SJS. This team is bad but not because it is too young. Suzuki is D+8, CC Dach Newhook D+6, Laine D+9, Slaf D+3 (you d expect more from a Guy who signes for 8m), Dvorak, Gallagher Anderson Evans Armia are all bottom 6 veterans, what is the excuse ?

 

[ReHabs]

Laine is clearly both hurt and hitting the wall due to his years long lack of fitness. Add in his contract and then guess why he was available for negative value…

The point is the upside not the current player. The knee injury he took in October set things back too.

We don’t need to make any decision or conclusion about Laine until next season anyway. So, my point is Habs fans shouldn’t overthink his renewal right now.

The more pertinent question is Kirby Dach — he’s also up for renewal in 2026, like Laine, and he’s proven a lot less than Laine, cost a hell of a lot more to acquire, and is not getting out of his funk.

Slafkovsky not producing and not contributing… Newhook basically worse than Drouin…

Call me negative but out top6 looks half empty even with Demidov

 

[OneSharpMarble]

How many rebuilds start with a Suzuki a CC a Guhle, a Romanov in their ranks ? Some people here are talking as is the Habs were starting from scratch like CHI or SJS. This team is bad but not because it is too young. Suzuki is D+8, CC Dach Newhook D+6, Laine D+9, Slaf D+3 (you d expect more from a Guy who signes for 8m), Dvorak, Gallagher Anderson Evans Armia are all bottom 6 veterans, what is the excuse ?

Are you seriously listing those players and wondering why the rebuild isn't done? Suzuki is in his prime and very good, Caufield exceptional. Guhle doesn't even have 200 games under his belt. Slaf is 20 and has underachieved. Laine has serious issues and set backs, Dach and newhook have not cemented their place in this league and some vets that are to be honest very average players. How about our rookie goalie or the goalie we got off waivers? These aren't excuses, this is reality. The team isn't good and it certainly isn't consistent. Our best players are tiny too. Don't act like we have McDavid to build around here.

 

[Vapaatunnus]

Whole team sucked tonight, management wasn't shining either. Towards the next game!

 

[ReHabs]

Are you seriously listing those players and wondering why the rebuild isn't done? Suzuki is in his prime and very good, Caufield exceptional. Guhle doesn't even have 200 games under his belt. Slaf is 20 and has underachieved. Laine has serious issues and set backs, Dach and newhook have not cemented their place in this league and some vets that are to be honest very average players. How about our rookie goalie or the goalie we got off waivers? These aren't excuses, this is reality. The team isn't good and it certainly isn't consistent. Our best players are tiny too. Don't act like we have McDavid to build around here.

This discussion has come up a few times and even if the Habs had McDavid you’d say the same thing because, fundamentally, you’re both saying the same thing.

One says the Habs don’t nearly have enough pieces to be a contender and the other says the Habs have some pieces and are not completely barren.

You both agree that the Habs have some pieces (mostly inherited but more still coming along) and are not contenders.

 

[ReHabs]

Additional thought: Lane Hutson and Patrick Laine have both hit a wall. This is expected + good, imo.

Lane is so good he’s having his sophomore slump midway in his rookie season. Other teams are game planning for him, he’s being targeted. Once his adult stamina comes, he will be our Erik Karlsson.

Laine is very out of game shape now and still a threat on the PP. He’s proven to produce due to his superior skills. Let’s hope his rest of game catches up. If not, then no matter — adios in 2026.

 

[salbutera]

Simon Snake Boivert said one of the best player in the next draft is Caleb Desnoyer. He says Desnoyer could become very fast the first center of the CH, ahead of Suzuki. He's projected to be picked 5h overall. Do you think he's that good and do you think Habs have what it takes in a trade to get the #5 pick? Or do you think Habs can drop enough to pick #5 anyway?

Or you think Simon Snake Boivert is in the potato fields (dans les patates, lol)?

2025 draft cuvée is projected is to be a weak 1st round class, it’s why so many 1st rounders are being dealt without hesitation compared to recent deadlines

 

[Toene]

Agreed, at the moment. Laine's value I'd say is even lower or at best equal to when we obtained him. So putting him on the trade block IMO is the last thing we should consider.

I don't like the idea of moving Caufield away from Suzuki. But....Suzuki is the only true Center we have on the team. I suggested keeping Slaf on the line. Due to the fact that he is still a "pass first" player. As much as we all spend time screaming at our TV's for him to shoot more. I like your suggestion of Heineman. Though I didn't mention him, since I have no idea when he's due back.

Due too injuries and our current losing streak. I 100% agree that MSL should be open to experimenting right now.

Slaf is a pass first player... who struggles to complete passes. Everything is fine!

 

[Habs Halifax]

Reading these comments is painful.

Trade Laine, Dach, Newhook, Dvorak, Savard, Armia…

Get a grip

We have lose 5 in a row... this place will be cancer culture for a few days now.

Slaf is a pass first player... who struggles to complete passes. Everything is fine!

Slaf does make some really nice plays but he needs to learn puck management a bit better because he is trying to force a pass at the wrong times sometimes. He's improved in that area but he has a lot more maturity to come.

2025 draft cuvée is projected is to be a weak 1st round class, it’s why so many 1st rounders are being dealt without hesitation compared to recent deadlines

Yup, you can see the trend. Late 1st and 2nd's will be thrown around way more than other drafts. Basically, a late 1st is a 2nd and a 2nd is a 3rd when you compare quality to the average drafts.

Sellers are going to target B+ and A prospects I bet.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Drama queens out in full force again with their panic "trade everyone!" Nonsense as usual. Some people just aren't cut out for the rebuild, they want to be a middling team that never achieved anything.

The ego boost from winning games is more important to some people than the future. They use the excuse of wanting players to gain valuable experience, but it's all a thinly veiled attempt to conceal their eagerness for their needed ego boost.

 

[ReHabs]

The ego boost from winning games is more important to some people than the future. They use the excuse of wanting players to gain valuable experience, but it's all a thinly veiled attempt to conceal their eagerness for their needed ego boost.

It was nice seeing Lane Hutson do good things, but I couldn't care less to see Armia and Evans steal points for us.

And it seems Slaf, Dach, and Newhook never really woke up (just marginally improved from a nadir) so it was always fool's gold: no team can sustain success with one reliable line and a bunch of ephemeral performances.