Post-Game Talk: Habs lose to the Kings who played back-to-back

[1909]

Not surprising. Better forwards and goaltending. Better team around him

He was playing bottom six in MTL…..

 

[morhilane]

With the injury news from today, next game will be even more disgusting defensively (and that is if Matheson can play).

Matheson-Mailloux
Hutson-Barron
Xhekaj-Savard

Barron has been the best D in the dzone since the season started among that sextet...

 

[dcyhabs]

Every other team can acquire good players and we can’t for some reason

Been the same for two decades

Not every team, mostly the same few teams do well. Teams like Buffalo draft high but lose players and games. Canadian teams continue to lose. Boston retools. Florida teams and Vegas pick up free agents.

The habs are making progress, but they have some distance to go to be a playoff team. Once they hit the playoffs they’ll see if they can win playoff series with the team they have. They need at least a couple of more physical D and a bruising fourth line. It’s good to have some skill players, like Evans, in the bottom six, but in the playoffs you need some guys who will wear down the other team and keep plugging.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Not every team, mostly the same few teams do well. Teams like Buffalo draft high but lose players and games. Canadian teams continue to lose. Boston retools. Florida teams and Vegas pick up free agents.

The habs are making progress, but they have some distance to go to be a playoff team. Once they hit the playoffs they’ll see if they can win playoff series with the team they have. They need at least a couple of more physical D and a bruising fourth line. It’s good to have some skill players, like Evans, in the bottom six, but in the playoffs you need some guys who will wear down the other team and keep plugging.

Sure, but that’s not what I said. I didn’t say every other team is good, I said they can get good players.

 

[dcyhabs]

Sure, but that’s not what I said. I didn’t say every other team is good, I said they can get good players.

The habs have acquired players recently, but they are not at the point where it makes sense to go after free agents. they should have lots of space and money in a year or two, we'll see how they do then.

Admittedly the team looks weak so far, and the constant injuries aren't helping.

 

[Power Man]

Mont Tremblant on that 3rd goal lol

Feed him vitamin D3 tbh

 

[Adriatic]

It’s not really crazy to expect the team to look better from two years ago.

How about you wait about a month to get a better picture. People here talking about cups after 2 wins and then wanna jump off a building after 2 losses.

 

[Guy Larose]

It's funny and sad that the same posters who were sure that the Habs roster had no chance at the playoffs are also the ones ready to fire the coach after 5 games and a 2-3 start....

Coherent arguments have no place in the hot takes oven lol

If you take note of the names, it's that annoying pro tank group.

 

[overlords]

Sure, but that’s not what I said. I didn’t say every other team is good, I said they can get good players.

We did get a good player. He just broke immediately

 

[zx81]

Oh sorry, we do have a system of play. It's called chicken with no heads running everywhere. And we are also a team of smurfs skating in empty spaces.

We have concepts. The problem with concepts it's that it's very broad. It tells what do do in general but it does not tell who should do it and when. It seems like MSL wants all his players to learn every concept and that magically it will turn them in complete players. That's not how it works. Each player should have simple well defined roles inside a cohesive system.

 

[HuGo Sham]

He was playing bottom six in MTL…..

meaning he's better, with a better supporting cast

 

[Zalos]

The people being upset that we lost.

Next time, don't overvalue your team before the season starts. The Habs are still rebuilding. There's no reason to expect anything else but bottom ten in the league until they prove otherwise for an entire year.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The people being upset that we lost.

Next time, don't overvalue your team before the season starts. The Habs are still rebuilding. There's no reason to expect anything else but bottom ten in the league until they prove otherwise for an entire year.

I don't like the execution and effort in most games, but it's also so early, there's no point in thinking this is the standard for the rest of the year.

 

[morhilane]

I don't like the execution and effort in most games, but it's also so early, there's no point in thinking this is the standard for the rest of the year.

Somehow I don't feel optimistic about it. Last year, collective poor play of that level was relatively fixed by the next game. It's been 5 games and they seems to be getting worst instead of better.

It's like the boys told themselves "we are making the playoffs" and they are realizing it's way more hardwork then they planned putting into it and are all demoralized about it...

 

[Zalos]

I don't like the execution and effort in most games, but it's also so early, there's no point in thinking this is the standard for the rest of the year.

We just don't have enough firepower after the first line. Dach has been disappointing so far (some awful passes on the PP in the past two games). Newhook hasn't done much. Gallagher's line has been pushing hard, but no results yet.

Some of those players are bound to finally score and get going. However, I don't think the D or the goaltending situations will be any better as the year progresses. It's average in both cases.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Somehow I don't feel optimistic about it. Last year, collective poor play of that level was relatively fixed by the next game. It's been 5 games and they seems to be getting worst instead of better.

It's like the boys told themselves "we are making the playoffs" and they are realizing it's way more hardwork then they planned putting into it and are all demoralized about it...

If that's the case, then let the players who can't let a mild inconvenience go, see the door. We don't want Toronto losers in the core.

We just don't have enough firepower after the first line. Dach has been disappointing so far (some awful passes on the PP in the past two games). Newhook hasn't done much. Gallagher's line has been pushing hard, but no results yet.

Some of those players are bound to finally score and get going. However, I don't think the D or the goaltending situations will be any better as the year progresses. It's average in both cases.

Dach's understandable, we should have more from Newhook, losing Laine hurt.

And if the D and Goaltending situation stays average, and we lose while executing properly, I'm good with that.

We should lose games because we aren't experienced and as talented as the actual contenders yet.. we shouldn't lose because we can't make breakout passes, can't retrieve a dump in, and don't pressure puck carriers.

 

[le_sean]

How about you wait about a month to get a better picture. People here talking about cups after 2 wins and then wanna jump off a building after 2 losses.

I’ve waited two years to get a better picture. They are continuously lost in the defensive zone, nothing has changed.

 

[Miller Time]

A little worse may have been pushing it too far but hey.....i'm upset.

But let's face facts, it still isn't pretty so far to start this season and in 3 of our games it has been somewhat embarrassing.

I was expecting a bit better, we need to start really showing something.

Potential and promise is fine but Potential is just that......potential.

fair enough, venting is always fair!

it's not a stellar start to the season, but also not really that concerning as far as I'm concerned. We have one of the youngest teams in the league. It's both normal and expected that we'll have games where things just don't gel right... if anything, for the amount some posters are quick to blast MSL, from my experience some of the things were seeing on ice as "problems" are actually good signs of a team that is being allowed a pretty large degree of rope to figure things out. I suspect that behind closed doors, there are very specific items the coaching staff is looking for, and holding players/the group accountable to, while being much more forgiving about the growing pains in other facets.


The two major injuries were a bigger blow from my perspective. The play on ice is about as I expected overall, a bit better performances from some individuals, and a bit less from others.

I still think we are trending in a very good direction. Health going forward is the biggest concern and will be the biggest impediment to staying in the WC hunt all year long.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I’ve waited two years to get a better picture. They are continuously lost in the defensive zone, nothing has changed.

You consistently shitted on Marty and the team the last 2 years whenever they won games, and now you're shitting on them for not having looked better?

 

[le_sean]

You consistently shitted on Marty and the team the last 2 years whenever they won games, and now you're shitting on them for not having looked better?

It’s almost as if I expect a rebuilding team should get better with time. Also the cheering for losses is when the season was already clearly lost.

But yeah even this year, in the 3rd year, I’d be pretty upset if they looked like this defensively in Game 80, regardless if I want a better pick or not

 

[Next Best Thing]

I'm hanging on to the "small sample size" argument for now. We're still early in the season so we can figure it out.

 

[1909]

meaning he's better, with a better supporting cast

He,s better, beacuse he was already quite good, and surely good enough to be Habs’ #6 or #5 this season while waiting for Mailloux and Reinbacher to mature in Laval. Savard is loosing his steam game after game, and Barron is an AHL caliber d-man. So ?

 

[HuGo Sham]

He,s better, beacuse he was already quite good, and surely good enough to be Habs’ #6 or #5 this season while waiting for Mailloux and Reinbacher to mature in Laval. Savard is loosing his steam game after game, and Barron is an AHL caliber d-man. So ?

so what? I never disparaged Kovacevic. I didn't trade him.
Glad he's enjoying success

 

[1909]

so what? I never disparaged Kovacevic. I didn't trade him.
Glad he's enjoying success

Yeah, I know. But why did the Habs traded him ? Were they so sure that Barron would be better or Mailloux or Reinbacher would be NHL ready ?

 

[HuGo Sham]

Yeah, I know. But why did the Habs traded him ? Were they so sure that Barron would be better or Mailloux or Reinbacher would be NHL ready ?

perhaps. habs simply have too many D. He was a UFA to be. Hughes doesn't win every trade. It's also early in the year, so we'll see if the young corps steadily improves