BehindTheTimes
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They aren’t, we just have better tank commanders. They will be a bottom 10 team when it’s all said and done.
Post-Game Talk: Habs lose BIG in Florida. At least they didn't give up 10!
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BehindTheTimes
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Best player the game has seen.
As for last nights game, well that was an arse whopping.
So we're 7th from last in league as of today.
I figure to have a legitimate good chance at Bedard, we need to finish bottom 5 at best, ideally bottom 3.
I can actually see all of Anaheim, Columbus, and San Jose going on mini hot streaks at some point and rising in standings slightly. Chicago will be tough to beat. Arizona likely to fall further too. Philly unsure.
I think botom 5 is quite likely, but we won't be last this year, and probably 4th or 5th rather than bottom 3, since we started season so well.
Real question to me is what Florida does from here on out. The division is quite competitive, with all of Ottawa, Buffalo and Detroit having things going for them. I can legitimately see Florida finishing 2nd to last in division, and as such bottom 10 in league, maybe as low as bottom 7-10.
Can we somehow win the lottery twice over? That would be amazing. Of course, Florida has it in them too to go the other direction and rise in standings.
Also - do we still have an actual Bedard/tank discussion thread? I couldn't find it.
I was always anti tanking with Price (and id argue 21 playoffs proved me right, in the sense Price always gave us a 'puncher's chance' come playoffs) - but without Price and such a deep draft, this seems like the ideal year to get two high picks, including #1 ideally.
I figure to have a legitimate good chance at Bedard, we need to finish bottom 5 at best, ideally bottom 3.
I can actually see all of Anaheim, Columbus, and San Jose going on mini hot streaks at some point and rising in standings slightly. Chicago will be tough to beat. Arizona likely to fall further too. Philly unsure.
I think botom 5 is quite likely, but we won't be last this year, and probably 4th or 5th rather than bottom 3, since we started season so well.
Real question to me is what Florida does from here on out. The division is quite competitive, with all of Ottawa, Buffalo and Detroit having things going for them. I can legitimately see Florida finishing 2nd to last in division, and as such bottom 10 in league, maybe as low as bottom 7-10.
Can we somehow win the lottery twice over? That would be amazing. Of course, Florida has it in them too to go the other direction and rise in standings.
Also - do we still have an actual Bedard/tank discussion thread? I couldn't find it.
I was always anti tanking with Price (and id argue 21 playoffs proved me right, in the sense Price always gave us a 'puncher's chance' come playoffs) - but without Price and such a deep draft, this seems like the ideal year to get two high picks, including #1 ideally.
Grate n Colorful Oz
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In terms of win +/-, we were +12 over Columbus a month ago. We're now +9. It's doable. The only super tanker I fear we won't be able to catch-up to is Chicago.
Grate n Colorful Oz
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Happy it's not bad, still, he may take a break, for as long as he wants to. Make sure everything's alright, make sure he's 100%. Y'know...
Gillings
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See Chicago did the right thing…
They saw bedard so they traded everyone away for futures.
Montreal sees bedard so they traded for guys they didn’t need. Way to go!
They saw bedard so they traded everyone away for futures.
Montreal sees bedard so they traded for guys they didn’t need. Way to go!
Folks. This is what tanking looks like. It has nothing to do with coaching. The talent isn’t there, and the talent that is there (outside Suzuki and Caufield) is still very raw.
Dadonov, Hoffman, Gallagher, Drouin, Armia are barely nhlers and that’s half the forwards.
Dach and Monahan are the only other top 6 players. Slaf, Harris, Guhle, AX are all rookies.
It’s going to be like this for a couple of more years until the habs acquire talent and develop the one they have.
Dadonov, Hoffman, Gallagher, Drouin, Armia are barely nhlers and that’s half the forwards.
Dach and Monahan are the only other top 6 players. Slaf, Harris, Guhle, AX are all rookies.
It’s going to be like this for a couple of more years until the habs acquire talent and develop the one they have.
BLONG7
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Drouin and Gally with Dadonov would be better,
The vets are the key to the tank boys..................the team is disgusting.
The vets should be waived, grow a set Kent...............let the kids play and send the vets packing.
What is our record without Monahan? Yikes..........
No. He played a very good game. He looks like he has adjusted so he does not get clobbered with his head down. Used his big body very effectively along the boards and won a lot of puck battles, good puck protection. His hockey IQ that people here are questioning is not a problem IMO. The kid is simply playing with clueless plugs who don’t know how to get open and can’t catch a pass. There’s about 19 problems with the Habs, and he’s not one of them.
BLONG7
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I really think he will morph into the player they think he will............it will take some time, but I see him becoming a 25 goal guy with 25-30 assists. He will be a guy who controls the play..........Patience guys...
Exactly. And if the naysayers would take a little time and watch Wright be pretty much an uninspiring,non factor at the world juniors tourney right now, they could appreciate the fact that we picked Slaf instead of him.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
What? They didn't need a 21 year old 6'4" center with a butt load of potential?
They got a 1st for taking Monahan who they will flip.
Getting a 21 year old top 6 C, and getting a 1st and other assets is smart.
Doing what Chicago is doing would mean trading literally Caufield and Suzuki and hoping the lottery balls bounce for you, if they don't, then what?
I much prefer what Hughes is doing than what Chicago is doing.
sampollock
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Kent did well for sure. it is now time for the next round of good things to come
Catanddogguitarrr
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Maybe an hidden injury. Or his confidence is affected. I don't prentend to be dr Phil or intending to become like him. But pro sport is also a matter of mental desire and confidence. It's finding solutions in adversity, like militaries on a battle field. The loss of MoneyHand is making this team fall like a card castle. I think it's just a bad time for Suzuki, he's strong enough, I don't think the rest of his career will be affected by this slump.
Hins77
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No. Imo. He won many board battles. He is able to make some things that we don’t expect by a 18 years old players. He is checking opponent hard too. Imagine when he is gonna be 24 years old. This guy will destroy everything on his road cause he has the speed. I never accept the comparison since the beginning with Jagr or Marian Hossa. But if he can become a king of Radulov/Landeskog it gonna be really interresting.
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Showcasing the vets for max return is backfiring. Dadonov, Drouin and Byron are gone next year at least.
If you do what Chicago is doing you have to have an owner who is willing to suffer 7 years of bad hockey. It's going to take 6-7 years to rebuild as they don't have anyone worth keeping. Same with Anaheim. And you need a very competent GM. If the Hawks don't get a boat load for Toews and Kane they are in trouble.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
And if you don't get lucky and win Bedard.. you gutted everything and you just got a good but not franchise altering prospect.
Naslundforever
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Management traded every good vet, are dressing 5 rookie D and have no starting goalie or established star.
The players know. Also they see how much better real nhl teams are, they play them - only Gallagher is alpha enough to try and score with his face in that context.
Mandate seems to be (for management - players just play)
Showcase the shit vets to maximize return, give the rookies some ice time, try and keep a good attitude in the room, finish as close to bottom as possible.
They are way short on the promise of entertainment; but I’m not sure it was a sustainable or even fair thing to ask when the season started.
Agreed. Chicago is doing it wrong, like buffalo before them. Tank Command is a very delicate procedure of maintaining development for youngsters to taste/earn winning all while guaranteeing you are a bottom 5 team, and get a little luck in the lottery.
Habs are doing just fine.
NORiculous
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Reichel is kept in the AHL and is a very nice piece. Add to that the player they get this year (#1 C) and they will already have the hardest parts to get in a rebuild. It might take a few years to fill the cracks but it will be solid.
Kent needs to continue to force other GM's hands of cap stricken teams for cap dumps like Monahan. Call Tampa for example and ask for a first along with Seabrook. There's a welcomed luxury of 30 million to play with next year.
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