JetsHomer
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Proposal: Habs - Jets
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CHaracter79
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Again this is based in exp draft value
You may lose Perrault for nothing
And if you think Lowry on his own is worth a 2nd and a 3rd then that's great for you
JetsHomer
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The Jets got a 2nd and a 3rd round pick for a 20 game rental of Johnny Oduya. If you don't think Lowry is worth more than I don't know what to tell ya
This is mind-bogglingly stupid. If the Jets don't lose Perreault to the draft, they'll lose someone else. You don't give away a second line player just because of the expansion draft.
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Rentals of ufa top 4 dmen are different.
Montreal got Vanek for a2nd and a prospect
They also got Petry for a 2nd
Adam Lowry is a decent young forward but Paul Byron has had Better numbers and was a waiver pick up
Can't compare ufa trades to young forwards
Lowry is young and has potential but in no way is he worth a 2nd and a 3rd
Lars eller brought back two seconds
Andrew shaw returned 2 2nds and maybe one day Lowry have shaw type value
But shaw and Lowry are only a year apart in age
Desharnais outproduced Perrault every single year except for last year when our whole team imploded. Desharnais also regularly plays an entire season, something Perrault has never done...and is not going to do again this year. Desharnais is on pace for 20-30 points while Perrault is on pace for half that. Hooray, Perrault produced more points than DD once in his entire NHL career during the worst breakdown in Habs history. Perrault makes 500 000 less to never play a full season and get more points once in his career.
Lupul is a cap dump. DD is fine for 3.5 million.
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Thought? As a Habs fan this offer almost made me puke.Down right just terrible and an overpayment for friggin Mathieu Perreault!
What do you guys think the odds are for Enstrom or Buff waiving their NMCs? It's 100% speculation, but my self and many other ranger fans would be very surprised if Dan Girardi wouldn't waive his NMC. Like why on earth would he be picked? I think there is a risk Staal would get picked, but who knows. If LVGK are looking for a bit younger team it might be clear that he won't be picked and he might waive too.
If nobody waives, it seems like the Jets must make a move right, but...
A Loyal Demidog
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You're right, Markov is declining quite hard...
Also, for the fun of it, here's MTL's top 6 D-men this year:
..and WPG's top 7 D-men this year:
A lot of Habs fans like to freak out when their players aren't playing God-like every single game (I admit I freak out a little too sometimes). Beaulieu's been in our bottom-pairing pretty much the entire season and has put up more points than any one of your D-men not named Byfuglien. The only thing is that neither Beaulieu and Emelin are Top-2 material (right now we have Emelin playing with Weber, and while he's not known for his scoring, he's a great physical presence, but he's more of a Top-4 - and Beaulieu has his stupid moments on ice, and is a great bottom-pairing D-man). MTL's looking for a legit top-2 to play with Weber (Markov is older, so his minutes need to be shortened so he can still have gas left during PO). With a Top-2 LD, we'll have to lose one of Emelin/Beaulieu +, and Beaulieu seems like the logical choice, considering he's younger and has flashes where he looks like he can breakout and become the Top-2 LD everyone wishes he'd be.
Having x-Weber, Markov-Petry, Emelin-Redmond/Pateryn (and Price
), our D is very deep. Add to that, next year Habs likely get Juulsen to play on the team (he's really good), and possibly Sergachev. Both top D prospects are RD, so maybe we can sacrifice one of them along with Beaulieu for a legit top-2 LD.As for LW, Montreal is doing very fine there (Byron is great with Galchenyuk and Radulov, Habs also have Pacioretty, Lehkonen, Hudon, Danault, etc), so they don't need another LW in Perreault. Other than the top-2 LD, the only thing the Habs would need is a legit 2C (Plekanec's 6m cap could come in play here, although he is an excellent shutdown C who would be great as 3C).
I think that MTL could make a push for a top-2 LD, and a 2C with the roster and picks we have. MTL shouldn't focus on trades like this one, lol.
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broc
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On the other hand, we are likely to lose Perrault to the expansion draft. This way we keep a 2nd and player.
Although it's bad form to trade players who commit to you when you're a team like Winnipeg, so for that reason alone I wouldn't do it.
Counter counter counter stupidity:
Desharnais, 8th in 2202 and 9th in 3209
for
Byfuglien, Scheifele, your 1st in 2017.
Am I doing this right??
Sigh...
Flynn himself is a veteran bottom 6, why would we add a 2nd for a veteran bottom 6 on an expiring contract?
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To be fair there hasn't been a single reasonable offer made (by any fans) in this entire thread. OP made zero sense for either side, all other offers by either side have been horrible/troll like.
Toene
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How does it not make sense?
I adressed : value, needs, salary cap hits, while making a proposal that slightly favors the other team.
You can disagree with it but your standard for proposals are very high. We re doing this for fun, remember? Im not proposing Beaulieu for Scheifele here, Jets are stacked at forward and Matthieu Perreault is one of their most expandable one.
Tl;dr : Calm down.
VoluntaryDom
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Perreault is worth a 2nd and a 3rd, not a second and Beaulieu. Flynn is kind of trash. Beaulieu has a load of potential, as a 2nd pair guy, and Perreault is simply a versatile middle-6 guy. Maybe beauleiu for perreault 1-for-1, but I don't see it being a fit from either side. The Habs need a LH defenseman to play with Petry on the second pair, IMO. This trade actually LOSES them a LHD.
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Tell me what needs does that op offer solve for us long term?
Nathan would be exposed and lost possibly to LV. Short term he would play on our 3rd pairing. Offering us very little value.
Flynn - Couldn't care a less about him, eject him into orbit if you like. Waste of a roster spot, sooner play one of 5-7 rookies.
2nd Rd pick, meh.
If the Jets wanted to trade MP to make room for our prospects and expansion it would be for picks likely. So tell me how your offer addressed our needs.
VoluntaryDom
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Also, Emelin is awful. But, their current depth chart of
Weber
Markov
Petry
Beaulieu
Emelin
etc
is decent.
Weber
Markov
Petry
Beaulieu
Emelin
etc
is decent.
have you even watched him play? He's been very good this year. Our top 4 is very solid all 4 players are playing great.
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