Proposal: Habs - Jets

[Toene]

I write this knowing there are a lot of Habs proposals on the board these days, asking for the moon and offering scraps. Lets's have something more realistic. I want to know from Jets fans if the value is there for them.

Beaulieu - Flynn - 2nd in 2018

For

Mathieu Perreault

Reasoning : Habs would like a legit complement for the Galchenyuk/Radulov line. Perreault is a useful middle 6 forward whos good on special teams.
Now Im not a Jets fan but I notice you guys would need help on the left side of your defense. Beaulieu only costs a million. His greatest skill is his skating and mobility. Flynn, a cheap and good PKer, is added to compensate Perreault's loss. The 2nd is to balance out value, Jets could flip it in another trade or simply use it.

Thoughts?

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[mcpw]

Jets needing LHD is correct, but there's the expansion draft.

Jets' expansion draft eligible defensemen:

Toby Enstrom (NMC - must be protected)
Dustin Byfuglien (NMC - must be protected)
Tyler Myers
Jacob Trouba

Nathan Beaulieu is eligible to be picked by Las Vegas. That sort of kills it.

 

[heretik27]

Does Beaulieu have to be protected? We have Morrissey/Enstrom on the left side right now with Chiarot+Stuart as bottom pairing D and Buff/Trouba/Myers on the right side. At the least we already have a problem retaining our 4 big D without exposing a bunch of our forwards. I'd rather we trade Myers or Trouba if he's still inclined to leave us and protect 7-3-1. Beaulieu is also only cost controlled for this year as he's RFA with arbitration rights. Perreault is signed for the next 4 seasons.

It's not a bad thought initially, but the more I look into it the less I think it really benefits us.

 

[Paradise*]

If there was no expansion draft then i'd do the deal. Since there is...pass.

 

[Drydenwasthebest]

As a Habs fan, I would not want to see this trade done. Flynn and the 2nd should be enough to get a guy like Perrault. Beaulieu is a good defence man, but Therrien has him choking his tick in fear of making a mistake. Has should NOT do this.

 

[mcpw]

As a Habs fan, I would not want to see this trade done. Flynn and the 2nd should be enough to get a guy like Perrault.

Flynn and the 2nd should get you a guy like Desharnais. If you're lucky.

 

[JT3]

Flynn and the 2nd should get you a guy like Desharnais. If you're lucky.

In that case, how would you like to send us a 2nd for Desharnais, special offer, you don't even have to send us Flynn!

 

[Legend123]

horrid for mtl. Beaulieu is quite usefull and has yet to reach his potential.

 

[Drydenwasthebest]

Flynn and the 2nd should get you a guy like Desharnais. If you're lucky.

Desharnais can at least play full seasons and has put up point totals Perrault has never hit. Perrault is worth a 2nd round pick and a small add, he is NOT someone you give up Beaulieu, Flynn and a 2nd for. He is not a big guy, he is not a great point producing player, and he has never played more than 71 games in his entire NHL career. His career high i points is 43 and he has never gotten 20 goals. Why is he worth Beaulieu, Flynn and a 2nd?

He is worth Flynn and a 2nd at best.

 

[Legend123]

Desharnais can at least play full seasons and has put up point totals Perrault has never hit. Perrault is worth a 2nd round pick and a small add, he is NOT someone you give up Beaulieu, Flynn and a 2nd for. He is not a big guy, he is not a great point producing player, and he has never played more than 71 games in his entire NHL career. His career high i points is 43 and he has never gotten 20 goals. Why is he worth Beaulieu, Flynn and a 2nd?

He is worth Flynn and a 2nd at best.

im sorry but Perrault is not worth a second.

 

[Halla]

As a Habs fan, I would not want to see this trade done. Flynn and the 2nd should be enough to get a guy like Perrault. Beaulieu is a good defence man, but Therrien has him choking his tick in fear of making a mistake. Has should NOT do this.

flynn and 2nd get you a veteran bottom 6 forward on an expiring contract.

 

[Paradise*]

im sorry but Perrault is not worth a second.

Your're right. He's worth more.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I write this knowing there are a lot of Habs proposals on the board these days, asking for the moon and offering scraps. Lets's have something more realistic. I want to know from Jets fans if the value is there for them.

Beaulieu - Flynn - 2nd in 2018

For

Mathieu Perreault

Reasoning : Habs would like a legit complement for the Galchenyuk/Radulov line. Perreault is a useful middle 6 forward whos good on special teams.
Now Im not a Jets fan but I notice you guys would need help on the left side of your defense. Beaulieu only costs a million. His greatest skill is his skating and mobility. Flynn, a cheap and good PKer, is added to compensate Perreault's loss. The 2nd is to balance out value, Jets could flip it in another trade or simply use it.

Thoughts?

are you kidding? bergevin doesn't overpay like that for perreault. A young dman who was a 1st and a 2nd and roster player?
No

 

[ginovegas]

I write this knowing there are a lot of Habs proposals on the board these days, asking for the moon and offering scraps. Lets's have something more realistic. I want to know from Jets fans if the value is there for them.

Beaulieu - Flynn - 2nd in 2018

For

Mathieu Perreault

Reasoning : Habs would like a legit complement for the Galchenyuk/Radulov line. Perreault is a useful middle 6 forward whos good on special teams.
Now Im not a Jets fan but I notice you guys would need help on the left side of your defense. Beaulieu only costs a million. His greatest skill is his skating and mobility. Flynn, a cheap and good PKer, is added to compensate Perreault's loss. The 2nd is to balance out value, Jets could flip it in another trade or simply use it.

Thoughts?

so Habs get an upgrade on Flynn at the cost of Beaulieu and a 2nd , wow

 

[Halla]

Desharnais can at least play full seasons and has put up point totals Perrault has never hit. Perrault is worth a 2nd round pick and a small add, he is NOT someone you give up Beaulieu, Flynn and a 2nd for. He is not a big guy, he is not a great point producing player, and he has never played more than 71 games in his entire NHL career. His career high i points is 43 and he has never gotten 20 goals. Why is he worth Beaulieu, Flynn and a 2nd?

He is worth Flynn and a 2nd at best.

deshanais had 29 pts last year...and on his way to another 20-30pt season...he has negative value. contract dump

 

[Toene]

are you kidding? bergevin doesn't overpay like that for perreault. A young dman who was a 1st and a 2nd and roster player?
No

You gotta give to get. Perreault fits so well on our top-9 and Jets wont give him away for nothing. We can easily survive without those assets.

Perreault - Galchenyuk - Radulov
Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gallagher
Lehkonen/Hudon - Danault - Shaw
Byron - Mitchell - Carr

Emelin - Weber
Markov - Petry
Barberio - Pateryn

 

[Hunter368]

Flynn and the 2nd should get you a guy like Desharnais. If you're lucky.

I had to google Flynn to even see who the guy was.....literally. No interest in OP obviously.

No thought put into op offer, zero interest in a warm body type of player like Flynn. Pass

 

[Hunter368]

You gotta give to get. Perreault fits so well on our top-9 and Jets wont give him away for nothing. We can easily survive without those assets.

Perreault - Galchenyuk - Radulov
Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gallagher
Lehkonen/Hudon - Danault - Shaw
Byron - Mitchell - Carr

Emelin - Weber
Markov - Petry
Barberio - Pateryn

Dude, give it up. No way we trade mp for opening post b/c were not protecting five D. Op make zero sense

 

[Canada4Gold]

Jets needing LHD is correct, but there's the expansion draft.

Jets' expansion draft eligible defensemen:

Toby Enstrom (NMC - must be protected)
Dustin Byfuglien (NMC - must be protected)
Tyler Myers
Jacob Trouba

Nathan Beaulieu is eligible to be picked by Las Vegas. That sort of kills it.

Which forwards are you protecting though? I know you have a lot of exempt forwards, you could go 8+1 route and protect 5 defencemen if you acquired Beaulieu. As of now Schiefele, Wheeler, and Little obviously get protected, if Perreault is gone then next in line would be Lowry, Dano or Armia? But if you went 8+1 and protected Perreault you'd lose them anyway, or you'd lose Perreault, unless you traded one of those D.

I don't really see the expansion draft getting in the way of this trade because you'd lose maybe Dano as a result but you're lining up to lose Dano anyway I think.

Enstrom, Byfuglien, Trouba, Myers, Schiefele, Wheeler, Little, Beaulieu/Perreault + Hellebyuck

 

[hockeyheadlines]

flynn and 2nd get you a veteran bottom 6 forward on an expiring contract.

You mean like Kadri, but without the expiring contract?

 

[Jeti]

Jets needing LHD is correct, but there's the expansion draft.

Jets' expansion draft eligible defensemen:

Toby Enstrom (NMC - must be protected)
Dustin Byfuglien (NMC - must be protected)
Tyler Myers
Jacob Trouba

Nathan Beaulieu is eligible to be picked by Las Vegas. That sort of kills it.

Perreault is also eligible to be picked by Vegas so I'm not sure that's a valid complaint unless you think he'll be protected. The Jets can only protect 1 of Perreault, Armia, Dano and Lowry. Honestly, I'd take this and protect Armia.

Habs fans calling it an overpayment aren't wrong, they're just exaggerating by how much. Perreault is probably worth Beaulieu straight up. Flynn has very little value, but the 2nd is pure bonus in this proposal.

Do the Habs really need wingers that badly that they'd give up Beaulieu? Their D isn't very deep and Markov is declining hard.

 

[EveryDay]

Perreault is also eligible to be picked by Vegas so I'm not sure that's a valid complaint unless you think he'll be protected. The Jets can only protect 1 of Perreault, Armia, Dano and Lowry. Honestly, I'd take this and protect Armia.

Habs fans calling it an overpayment aren't wrong, they're just exaggerating by how much. Perreault is probably worth Beaulieu straight up. Flynn has very little value, but the 2nd is pure bonus in this proposal.

Do the Habs really need wingers that badly that they'd give up Beaulieu? Their D isn't very deep and Markov is declining hard.

So wrong.... Markov is simply amazing this year at both end of the ice.

 

[CHaracter79]

So wrong.... Markov is simply amazing this year at both end of the ice.

I don't mind the idea of MP with the habs but not by overpaying for him. Beaulieu still holds value and would probably be enough to get him straight up. Adding a 2nd is too much. Jets have no roster protection for Nate and it significantly weakens our d.
Nate is over rated by some habs fans and way under rated by non habs fans

He's 23 barely gets pp time has 7 points already and if he gets his confidence back and strings together a few solid games I do t see how Therrien will keep emelin with Shea. Emelin has been surprisingly great this year.

The idea is to make the team better and this creates a hole while covering another one

 

[CHaracter79]

I would offer a 2nd and a cap dump for MP though as yet may lose him in the exp draft

 

[CHaracter79]

Counter offer

To Win

2nd 2016
3rd 2017
DD

To mtl

Lowry
Perrault