Proposal: Habs in the off Season

[Colezuki]

The New York Islanders inquired about Hoffman not long after Toffoli was dealt.

Obviously nothing came together, but they like him and that team is desperate for goals and will likely look at some cheap options to add goal scoring this off-season.

Could be because mtl wanted futures and NYI wanted a hockey trade, could see them link back up in the offseason

In the off-season these are the trades I expect

Hoffman for the equivalent of a 2nd.
Petry for the equivalent of a 2nd
Weber to Arizona in a quiet part of the summer

At the 23 tdl
Drouin/Byron for 2nds with drouin having an outside chance at more depending on what he does next year

Honestly though, beyond petry, Weber and Hoffman. Price is the wildcard in all of this, if he decides he wants to go win I think the team would do their best to honour the request and it kicks off the full rebuild. I think it could also change the plans for this summer, because if he’s gone it’s full rebuild if he stays and they solve those three above theyll have about $17M in cap space which they need to really sign Romanov and two forwards. So they could take a swing at a UFA if they wanted. Note not saying they should

 

[BLONG7]

Could be because mtl wanted futures and NYI wanted a hockey trade, could see them link back up in the offseason

In the off-season these are the trades I expect

Hoffman for the equivalent of a 2nd.
Petry for the equivalent of a 2nd
Weber to Arizona in a quiet part of the summer

At the 23 tdl
Drouin/Byron for 2nds with drouin having an outside chance at more depending on what he does next year

Honestly though, beyond petry, Weber and Hoffman. Price is the wildcard in all of this, if he decides he wants to go win I think the team would do their best to honour the request and it kicks off the full rebuild. I think it could also change the plans for this summer, because if he’s gone it’s full rebuild if he stays and they solve those three above theyll have about $17M in cap space which they need to really sign Romanov and two forwards. So they could take a swing at a UFA if they wanted. Note not saying they should

Price seems to be saying he wants to stay..........not sure why, but it looks like he wants to retire a hab.
The summer will be a busy one for the brass in Montreal for sure........Price does hold the key to what they end up doing....

 

[samsagat]

Some Sabres fans have some interest in Petry and his family being in Detroit as well as our cap space make it practical. Personally I don't hate the idea, but I wouldn't be willing to give up anything of value.

As long as you guys take the contract, fair enough.

A b/c prospect + mid rd pick and it's a deal.

 

[OV Rocks]

I will be honest I don't really know the status of Price and his future, but from the Caps perspective, a trade surrounding Price for Samsonov could be interesting. Caps get reliable to great goaltending to finish off the Ovi era, Habs get a young goalie in line with the age of the talent and can grow with the team.

 

[Not The One]

Hoffman
Byron
Armia
Drouin
Allen
Petry
Savard or Edmundson

If Mtl can find a way to unload half of these players, they maybe in good shape for inserting the the young players in the system plus a couple of free agents.

Which young players are they supposed to insert in their lineup to replace these guys? Some of them (like the rest of the team) have been injured for most of the year and they have nothing except AHLers and ECHlers to replace them.

 

[Mrfenn92]

I will be honest I don't really know the status of Price and his future, but from the Caps perspective, a trade surrounding Price for Samsonov could be interesting. Caps get reliable to great goaltending to finish off the Ovi era, Habs get a young goalie in line with the age of the talent and can grow with the team.

Cap wise is tough for the caps

 

[McJedi]

As long as you guys take the contract, fair enough.

A b/c prospect + mid rd pick and it's a deal.

If that is the case, just waive Petry and hope he’s claimed and off your cap for free.

Why would Buffalo offer a 5th round pick and some AHL nobody for Petry? Why would Habs accept. If his value is as low as your ask, just waive him.

I don’t think he gets claimed if you did waive him.

 

[McJedi]

Eric Engles at Sportsnet sure is setting up the Price to LTIR eventuality. Long winded articles about the struggle just to get onto the ice. The physical toll he pays in hopes he can play at an adequate level and leave the game playing well.

Read the obvious tea leaves. He’s the next Shea Weber. Cary Price is done.

 

[McJedi]

Calm down, I thought he was younger. Regardless, I am still allowed to be wishful even if it's far fetched weither you like it or not, it's HF not real life.

50% retainment and a "bad" contract back could do wonders. Anyways, he either stays with us and plays or goes on LTIR. No biggie.

You’re allowed your nonsensical fantasies. But you’re right. Price is heading to LTIR and your ownership can afford that. And you’ll know why beer prices go up $2

 

[ottawa]

Hoffman - value at an all-time low...keep him and play him and then trade if possible
Byron - last year, trade him as a rental
Armia - keep him unless you can get assets for him
Drouin - last year, trade him as a rental
Allen - last year, trade him as a rental or to a desperate team
Petry - should return assets, if not then trade at TDL
Savard - value low, keep him and play him and then trade if possible
Edmundson - 100% keep as vet D

 

[admiralcadillac]

I would keep:
Hoffman
Savard
Edmundson
Byron

OUT
Armia : 4th rd
Drouin : 3rd
Allen : mid First pick or a decent Prospect
Petry : 4th rd

No point to any of these traded at all and Petry is not returning a 4th round pick come on man.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I will be honest I don't really know the status of Price and his future, but from the Caps perspective, a trade surrounding Price for Samsonov could be interesting. Caps get reliable to great goaltending to finish off the Ovi era, Habs get a young goalie in line with the age of the talent and can grow with the team.

I personally think he has 2 very good years left. The last 2 years are a guess but the way I see it is Price is playing and very effective or he is on LTIR. Those who are questioning his ability when healthy are reaching in attempts to devalue.

I do think the Habs would have to retain down to around $7M to make it work for the cup contender he is going to. That's only fair. However, we are not just moving him just cause. If we are retaining and he is 100% healthy, we are looking for very serious futures.

Think bigger than the Roy trade to the Avs. Samsonov would be Thibault piece but we are after futures on top of that and it's more value than Kovalenko and Rucinsky

 

[Gaud]

I think Price is still good enough to be an upgrade in nets on plenty of teams. Trading him only makes sense on a team that thinks it is one goalie away from "winning now". I think a trade would look something like:

Price for other team's #1 goalie + B prospect, plus additional compensation (or a better prospect) if we need to retain or take on another contract.

Though the summer is usually better to work out a deal like this because of contract deadlines, I dont see this hapening before December next year - Price has just played too few games for another GM to take a chance on him.

 

[Fatass]

I think Price is still good enough to be an upgrade in nets on plenty of teams. Trading him only makes sense on a team that thinks it is one goalie away from "winning now". I think a trade would look something like:

Price for other team's #1 goalie + B prospect, plus additional compensation (or a better prospect) if we need to retain or take on another contract.

Though the summer is usually better to work out a deal like this because of contract deadlines, I dont see this hapening before December next year - Price has just played too few games for another GM to take a chance on him.

What team, who is in win now mode, has the cap room to add 10 million for a goalie?

 

[Gaud]

What team, who is in win now mode, has the cap room to add 10 million for a goalie?

According to my scenario, we'd be swapping #1 goalies and getting paid to retain or take on another contract. They would take on a 10M contract, but give back some or most of it; they cap hit for the other team could be nil, in this scenario.

As for who would be in on Price that is "win now" mode, i don't know. I may have misspoken; i meant "a team whose window is closing that needs a goalie". I dont think there are many top tier teams that absolutely need one though; you just don't get there without a goalie. First team that popped into my head was Edmonton. I also thought that if Toronto doesn't get past the first round this year, they may be interested. I heard Colorado rumors at some point, but i dont really believe in those.

 

[Eggtimer]

According to my scenario, we'd be swapping #1 goalies and getting paid to retain or take on another contract. They would take on a 10M contract, but give back some or most of it; they cap hit for the other team could be nil, in this scenario.

As for who would be in on Price that is "win now" mode, i don't know. I may have misspoken; i meant "a team whose window is closing that needs a goalie". I dont think there are many top tier teams that absolutely need one though; you just don't get there without a goalie. First team that popped into my head was Edmonton. I also thought that if Toronto doesn't get past the first round this year, they may be interested. I heard Colorado rumors at some point, but i dont really believe in those.

In all honesty , why would the Avs trade for a 10 million dollar cap hit for a risky albeit good goalie ? They are going to have to lose some important pieces already in one or more of Kadri , Nichuchkin, Burakovsky .
If they add on Price’s contract , they would lose more players. Price is too risky of a move to make for a team with a currently open Cup window.
I cannot see any true contenders adding that much cap and still be as good of a contender . What contenders would Price be an upgrade on in net ? Capitals , maybe Bruins , Toronto , Panthers maybe … but not at 10 million and not with that much injury risk.
I cannot see Price to a contender being a thing . Amd I cannot see Price moving to a team other than Montreal if they are not contenders …

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I will be honest I don't really know the status of Price and his future, but from the Caps perspective, a trade surrounding Price for Samsonov could be interesting. Caps get reliable to great goaltending to finish off the Ovi era, Habs get a young goalie in line with the age of the talent and can grow with the team.

idk if you guys can make it work cap wise but pretty sure Habs management would easily say yes

 

[Gaud]

In all honesty , why would the Avs trade for a 10 million dollar cap hit for a risky albeit good goalie ? They are going to have to lose some important pieces already in one or more of Kadri , Nichuchkin, Burakovsky .
If they add on Price’s contract , they would lose more players. Price is too risky of a move to make for a team with a currently open Cup window.
I cannot see any true contenders adding that much cap and still be as good of a contender . What contenders would Price be an upgrade on in net ? Capitals , maybe Bruins , Toronto , Panthers maybe … but not at 10 million and not with that much injury risk.
I cannot see Price to a contender being a thing . Amd I cannot see Price moving to a team other than Montreal if they are not contenders …

hey fair enough, but i see it possible to have 10 M going out and 10 coming back. A #1 goalie may be what.. 6M? add a 4M contract

 

[Bouboumaster]

Hoffman
Byron
Armia
Drouin
Allen
Petry
Savard or Edmundson

If Mtl can find a way to unload half of these players, they maybe in good shape for inserting the the young players in the system plus a couple of free agents.

Hoffman - I'd keep him. Specialist player, but not terrible by any means.

Byron - Love him, but he's always hurt. If he's not traded this summer, he'll probably be traded in the next TDL. Really useful when he plays, which is not often :/

Armia - Overpaid, can't see a team that would want him.

Drouin - Like Byron, he's always hurt. It's sad, I would have love to watch him play under a guy like St-Louis. Had the misfortune to play for defense first coaches in Montreal, and Drouin doesn't know how to back check. Could have been good under a different coach. A portion of our fanbase wake up during the night to hate him, I don't understand why. It would be better for him to get far away from those assholes. If not traded this summer, he'll be at the next tdl. Still able to put 50 points a year, at 50% retention, I could see a lot of takers (I assume the Habs will tank next year too)

Allen - Deserves better than what he has to deal with right now lol, but we should keep him

Petry - He's not a Habs at the beginning of next season, for sure. Still a solid player, big and fast, but he's not a #1. More like a #2 or a solid #3. Will find a home in a US market.

Savard - Solid, but not flashy. We need those. I'd keep him.

Edmunson - Same as Savard.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

In all honesty , why would the Avs trade for a 10 million dollar cap hit for a risky albeit good goalie ? They are going to have to lose some important pieces already in one or more of Kadri , Nichuchkin, Burakovsky .
If they add on Price’s contract , they would lose more players. Price is too risky of a move to make for a team with a currently open Cup window.
I cannot see any true contenders adding that much cap and still be as good of a contender . What contenders would Price be an upgrade on in net ? Capitals , maybe Bruins , Toronto , Panthers maybe … but not at 10 million and not with that much injury risk.
I cannot see Price to a contender being a thing . Amd I cannot see Price moving to a team other than Montreal if they are not contenders …

Price would be an upgrade in Toronto and Edmonton and likely Colorado and Carolina. And why do people keep referring to 10 MILLION. The trade would involve RETENTION.

 

[AcadiaAxeMan]

Does anyone think clearing salary and signing someone like JT Miller would be a good move? Say clear Weber, Petry, Drouin, even Price’s salary and get a forward with grit, leadership and can score? He’d be great for Suzuki (and Wright) in my opinion.

 

[Mersss]

Does anyone think clearing salary and signing someone like JT Miller would be a good move? Say clear Weber, Petry, Drouin, even Price’s salary and get a forward with grit, leadership and can score? He’d be great for Suzuki (and Wright) in my opinion.

Not when you are aiming for Connor Bedard, which is exactly what Habs are doing.

 

[Merci Saku]

Hoffman - I'd keep him. Specialist player, but not terrible by any means.

Byron - Love him, but he's always hurt. If he's not traded this summer, he'll probably be traded in the next TDL. Really useful when he plays, which is not often :/

Armia - Overpaid, can't see a team that would want him.

Drouin - Like Byron, he's always hurt. It's sad, I would have love to watch him play under a guy like St-Louis. Had the misfortune to play for defense first coaches in Montreal, and Drouin doesn't know how to back check. Could have been good under a different coach. A portion of our fanbase wake up during the night to hate him, I don't understand why. It would be better for him to get far away from those assholes. If not traded this summer, he'll be at the next tdl. Still able to put 50 points a year, at 50% retention, I could see a lot of takers (I assume the Habs will tank next year too)

Allen - Deserves better than what he has to deal with right now lol, but we should keep him

Petry - He's not a Habs at the beginning of next season, for sure. Still a solid player, big and fast, but he's not a #1. More like a #2 or a solid #3. Will find a home in a US market.

Savard - Solid, but not flashy. We need those. I'd keep him.

Edmunson - Same as Savard.

I don’t the get the hate on Drouin. Maybe fans have this image of him of a superstar

At his salary and his 50 pts pace, he’s fine.
Just like Anderson and his salary/intangibles, he’s fine.

If he was paid 8-9 millions, I would hop on the hate train but that’s not the case. Stay realistic on what the player is not on what you hoped they’ll be

 

[Bouboumaster]

I don’t the get the hate on Drouin. Maybe fans have this image of him of a superstar

At his salary and his 50 pts pace, he’s fine.
Just like Anderson and his salary/intangibles, he’s fine.

If he was paid 8-9 millions, I would hop on the hate train but that’s not the case. Stay realistic on what the player is not on what you hoped they’ll be

100% agree.
Plus, he should have a shot under St-Louis.

 

[HuGort]

I don’t the get the hate on Drouin. Maybe fans have this image of him of a superstar

At his salary and his 50 pts pace, he’s fine.
Just like Anderson and his salary/intangibles, he’s fine.

If he was paid 8-9 millions, I would hop on the hate train but that’s not the case. Stay realistic on what the player is not on what you hoped they’ll be

Drouin had lot of chances. Fans are sick of his excuses