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The Real Timo

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Because they're all geeks that were awful at sports and jealous of the athletes they cover 24/7.
Is sports journalism to journalism is same as chiropractors to doctors? I don't know of a good analogy... but seems like if you failed at journalism, you go into sports journalism. In general I feel like it is such an outdated thing... I mean who doesn't know in advance, based on a situation, what questions will be asked and what answers will be given.

So who won the golf tourney? I bet it's Wideman. He is so awesome.
 
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It would be sad and counterproductive to loose Primeau and DeSmith for sweet nothing. That would be Bergevin's caliber type of move.
How so? We can't keep four and we aren't likely to keep three. I know which ones I'd put on waivers but that isn't happening. Primeau has not forced the Canadiens' hand it's as simple as that. That is the sad reality. Counterproductive assumes there was production to begin with. Even if we could shed Allen the team would likely go with DeSmith based on results at the NHL level.
 
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I read that Slaf is down from 238 lbs to 225 lbs. Sheesh... he should be Eric Lindrosing people not getting smoked left right and center. Hope he starts steamrolling through the opposition soon. Go Slaf!!!
 
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It would be sad and counterproductive to loose Primeau and DeSmith for sweet nothing. That would be Bergevin's caliber type of move.
Capspace is a much needed commodity....at this point, that's all it looks like we will get.
DeSmith will likely get picked up, but Primeau is likely to pass through waivers.
Either way, it's almost 3M gone....
 
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That's a given. Who doesn't love Wideman. I sure do!


It would be dumping salary... that's all... i mean... what good are either of them for the team? Primeau will never make it. DeSmith is not an upgrade on neither Allen nor Montawall... Besides, as I predicted, Montawall will have Jose Theodore-like Vezina season.
Pretty funny that fans will roast berg for things that make no sense. MB was king of keeping minor assets alive.
This is the same guy that kept players like
Lehky, Hudon, kulak, bournival, andrigheto, etc.
MB was a lot of things but losing small assets he was not. He would string them along.
 
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Rapala

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Pretty funny that fans will roast berg for things that make no sense. MB was king of keeping minor assets alive.
This is the same guy that kept players like
Lehky, Hudon, kulak, bournival, andrigheto, etc.
MB was a lot of things but losing small assets he was not. He would string them along.
Lehky was not a minor asset. :help:
 

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I read that Slaf is down from 238 lbs to 225 lbs. Sheesh... he should be Eric Lindrosing people not getting smoked left right and center. Hope he starts steamrolling through the opposition soon. Go Slaf!!!
It's all about skating style and centre of gravity. The lower your centre of gravity is, the harder it is to knock you down.
 

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Lehky was not a minor asset. :help:
Revisionist history. He was a 13f until his playoff run. Not saying I agree with it, but he kept his value down and always signed him to small contracts even when we barely used him.
 

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Revisionist history. He was a 13f until his playoff run. Not saying I agree with it, but he kept his value down and always signed him to small contracts even when we barely used him.
Holy crap man Lehky was never a thirteenth forward people called him a fourth line player and yet he rarely ever spent time in that role. I don't get the misconception when it comes to Lehkonen like at all. Scores 18 goals in his rookie season was lauded for his skating his forechecking and his defensive acumen. Yet people call him a 13th forward and a fourth line player. Revisionist history requires proper recall so you missed the boat there.
 

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Holy crap man Lehky was never a thirteenth forward people called him a fourth line player and yet he rarely ever spent time in that role. I don't get the misconception when it comes to Lehkonen like at all. Scores 18 goals in his rookie season was lauded for his skating his forechecking and his defensive acumen. Yet people call him a 13th forward and a fourth line player. Revisionist history requires proper recall so you missed the boat there.
You are pressed and wrong. I’ve been a big lehky fan for years and he did score 18 as a rookie on the 3rd line and was never a 4th liner player but he was utilized as a 13f. Find me a lineup from 2015-2020 that has him locked into a spot. He had guys like dale weise, Thomas Fleishmam, pa parenteau, Danny brierre, Byron, Perry, Halpern, armia etc There was always someone above him in the lineup same with kulak. Because he was young he was always shafted as the 13f utility guy.

The trade to move him was awful as real fans knew his value and he would eventually break out. But Hughes wanted to maximaize value and cut cap. But let’s not pretend that before the final run he wasn’t used as a 13f. I mean he would literally have been a healthy scratch vs Toronto game 1 if Drouin, Caufield and KK were i. Which did happen and he was pushed even further down.

You should focus on recalling information since you missed the plot
 

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Flames have lost Toffoli, are going to lose Hanifin at some point, Huberdeau hasn't been great and is on the wrong side of 30 and lindholm is likely to leave. The flames are a bad gust of wind away from being the Habs 21-22
Yes its rumours but today the flames still have Lindholm,Hanifin and a better team then the Habs

On paper Calgary are a team that can definitely make the playoffs but we cant say the same for our team
 

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You are pressed and wrong. I’ve been a big lehky fan for years and he did score 18 as a rookie on the 3rd line and was never a 4th liner player but he was utilized as a 13f. Find me a lineup from 2015-2020 that has him locked into a spot. He had guys like dale weise, Thomas Fleishmam, pa parenteau, Danny brierre, Byron, Perry, Halpern, armia etc There was always someone above him in the lineup same with kulak. Because he was young he was always shafted as the 13f utility guy.

The trade to move him was awful as real fans knew his value and he would eventually break out. But Hughes wanted to maximaize value and cut cap. But let’s not pretend that before the final run he wasn’t used as a 13f. I mean he would literally have been a healthy scratch vs Toronto game 1 if Drouin, Caufield and KK were i. Which did happen and he was pushed even further down.

You should focus on recalling information since you missed the plot
In 2015-16 he was playing in Frolunda. His rookie year he averaged 13:52 of ice time. From 17-18 to 19-20 he averaged 15:48 toi with 66, 82, and 70 games played...that's hardly 13f time. His ice time dipped in 20-21 to lower than his rookie season totals (13:25) but he had as crappy a year as everyone else did that season.

Also, Halpern (12-13), Briere (13-14), and Parenteau (14-15) predate Lehky by a couple of years. Are you sure you aren't thinking of someone else?
 

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You are pressed and wrong. I’ve been a big lehky fan for years and he did score 18 as a rookie on the 3rd line and was never a 4th liner player but he was utilized as a 13f. Find me a lineup from 2015-2020 that has him locked into a spot. He had guys like dale weise, Thomas Fleishmam, pa parenteau, Danny brierre, Byron, Perry, Halpern, armia etc There was always someone above him in the lineup same with kulak. Because he was young he was always shafted as the 13f utility guy.

The trade to move him was awful as real fans knew his value and he would eventually break out. But Hughes wanted to maximaize value and cut cap. But let’s not pretend that before the final run he wasn’t used as a 13f. I mean he would literally have been a healthy scratch vs Toronto game 1 if Drouin, Caufield and KK were i. Which did happen and he was pushed even further down.

You should focus on recalling information since you missed the plot
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In 2015-16 he was playing in Frolunda. His rookie year he averaged 13:52 of ice time. From 17-18 to 19-20 he averaged 15:48 toi with 66, 82, and 70 games played...that's hardly 13f time. His ice time dipped in 20-21 to lower than his rookie season totals (13:25) but he had as crappy a year as everyone else did that season.

Also, Halpern (12-13), Briere (13-14), and Parenteau (14-15) predate Lehky by a couple of years. Are you sure you aren't thinking of someone else?
He is out to lunch these are Lehkonen's stats as a Hab.

16-17Montreal CanadiensNHL731810288-162242
2017-18Montreal CanadiensNHL661292120-11----------
2018-19Montreal CanadiensNHL821120313210----------
2019-20Montreal CanadiensNHL70131427242101348
2020-21Montreal CanadiensNHL4776136-2173144
2021-22Montreal CanadiensNHL58131629140----------
 

Theodore450

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He is out to lunch these are Lehkonen's stats as a Hab.

16-17Montreal CanadiensNHL731810288-162242
2017-18Montreal CanadiensNHL661292120-11----------
2018-19Montreal CanadiensNHL821120313210----------
2019-20Montreal CanadiensNHL70131427242101348
2020-21Montreal CanadiensNHL4776136-2173144
2021-22Montreal CanadiensNHL58131629140----------
You guys are just proving my point. He was under utilized and never had a solidifying roster spot. Other than 2018 where he played mostly on the 4th line
 

Rapala

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You guys are just proving my point. He was under utilized and never had a solidifying roster spot. Other than 2018 where he played mostly on the 4th line
No I posted these numbers to show it was impossible he was a 13F based on his games played.
We sure as heck weren't dressing 13F in any of those games.
Seriously I can only recall Lehkonen gettting healthy scratched once and a lot of us were up in arms because it was not deserved. I find it hard to credit you with being a Lehkonen fan when you don't seem to know his history.
 
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For the record...I always thought Lehkonen was under-utilized and restricted to being a checking winger.

He rarely played PP if I recall correctly...the team had an idea of what he was and never bothered seeing if there was more there.

That being said, I've got no issues with the trade return.
 

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Holy crap man Lehky was never a thirteenth forward people called him a fourth line player and yet he rarely ever spent time in that role. I don't get the misconception when it comes to Lehkonen like at all. Scores 18 goals in his rookie season was lauded for his skating his forechecking and his defensive acumen. Yet people call him a 13th forward and a fourth line player. Revisionist history requires proper recall so you missed the boat there.
I loved Lehky but his 431 consecutive shots in the glass around the net had many of us doubting he would ever grow out of that. He did everything else better than most.
 

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