GDT: Habs Golf Tournament - Monday September 11, 2023

[Theodore450]

No I posted these numbers to show it was impossible he was a 13F based on his games played.
We sure as heck weren't dressing 13F in any of those games.
Seriously I can only recall Lehkonen gettting healthy scratched once and a lot of us were up in arms because it was not deserved. I find it hard to credit you with being a Lehkonen fan when you don't seem to know his history.

I’ve followed him throughout his entire career. If you want to use stats to prove your argument. ( because I won’t) go find me his common linemates throughout the years. You’ll have your answer. He’s been scratched in the past and he’s been passed over by newcomers constantly.

I’m not saying I agree with it, but that’s how coaching treated him while mangement would consistently keep him as proven by the low contracts and lack of long term contract.

 

[SlafySZN]

 

[Redux91]

Ok now I'm getting a little concerned lol
Just how depressed was he at the end of the year??

 

[CDN24]

I’ve followed him throughout his entire career. If you want to use stats to prove your argument. ( because I won’t) go find me his common linemates throughout the years. You’ll have your answer. He’s been scratched in the past and he’s been passed over by newcomers constantly.

I’m not saying I agree with it, but that’s how coaching treated him while mangement would consistently keep him as proven by the low contracts and lack of long term contract.

He was rarely used as a top 6 forward but that does not make him a 13th F which is what you claimed. He was rarely scratched.
in 16-17 rookie season he played 73 games but spent most of November on injured reserve - that's where the 9 games went
on 17-18 he played 66 games- missed 16 but again was on IR for 5 weeks in November December
In 18-19 he played all 82 games
in 19-20 he played 70 games (season cut short by Covid team played 71)
in 2021- he played 47 of 56 games, again Covid was a factor only Suzuki played all 56

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Ok now I'm getting a little concerned lol
Just how depressed was he at the end of the year??

Yeah the wording was something lol.

To me Slaf is the biggest question mark. Love our young core but they’re all fairly question mark-y to varying degrees. I feel confident enough on the whole though.

Slaf is the big one though. If he hits like I think he could we’d be in tremendous shape. I’m a fan but there is a bit of bust there. Or a scenario where he tops out as a 3rd liner. I don’t think they’re the most likely of scenarios but they’re possible.

A lot hinges on him. He could be that missing piece up front. The ones that the pro-Michkov group were hoping to get. Many of which also have written Slaf off to an extent.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Ok now I'm getting a little concerned lol
Just how depressed was he at the end of the year??

Yeah the wording was something lol.

To me Slaf is the biggest question mark. Love our young core but they’re all fairly question mark-y

 

[the valiant effort]

The funny thing about Lehkonen is if he was almost any other forward in the league, a lot of Habs fans would remark "anyone could put up 51 pts in 64 GP on Nathan MacKinnon's line".

He is a fantastic solider with a Bugatti motor under the hood, and served the Habs extremely well despite being deployed improperly throughout his time. I wish we still had him, but holy shit let him go! This isn’t Markus Naslund for Stojanov 2.0

 

[Theodore450]

He was rarely used as a top 6 forward but that does not make him a 13th F which is what you claimed. He was rarely scratched.
in 16-17 rookie season he played 73 games but spent most of November on injured reserve - that's where the 9 games went
on 17-18 he played 66 games- missed 16 but again was on IR for 5 weeks in November December
In 18-19 he played all 82 games
in 19-20 he played 70 games (season cut short by Covid team played 71)
in 2021- he played 47 of 56 games, again Covid was a factor only Suzuki played all 56

Show me the linemates. Stop avoiding it

 

[Kairi Zaide]

I’ve followed him throughout his entire career. If you want to use stats to prove your argument. ( because I won’t) go find me his common linemates throughout the years. You’ll have your answer. He’s been scratched in the past and he’s been passed over by newcomers constantly.

I’m not saying I agree with it, but that’s how coaching treated him while mangement would consistently keep him as proven by the low contracts and lack of long term contract.

Show me the linemates. Stop avoiding it

There I did the job for them (at 5v5, with % of Lehky's icetime spent with linemate)

Season		Linemate #1	Linemate #2	Linemate #3	Linemate #4	Linemate #5		Avg 5v5 TOI per game
2016-17		Plekanec (48.34%)	Shaw (29.75%)	Galchenyuk (26.40%)	Byron (20.65%)	Radulov (16.09%)		12:11 (8th)
2017-18		Galchenyuk (34.80%)	Drouin (33.04%)	Plekanec (27.89%)	De La Rose (21.64%)	Gallagher (20.56%)		12:33 (9th)
2018-19		Kotkaniemi (42.28%)	Domi (35.48%)	Armia (20.34%)	Shaw (18.22%)	Byron (16.54%)		12:11 (8th)
2019-20		Domi (46.58%)	Suzuki (33.33%)	Armia (22.93%)	Kotkaniemi (15.59%)	Weal (13.35%)		12:29 (9th)
2020-21		Byron (47.36%)	Evans (46.74%)	Kotkaniemi (27.88%)	Armia (15.11%)	Danault (12.85%)		11:00 (14th)
2021-22		Evans (39.25%)	Armia (32.06%)	Suzuki (26.72%)	Poehling (16.96%)	Toffoli (14.33%)		11:30 (12th)

Regarding avg 5v5 toi, there's a few players each season starting in 18-19 that played a not significant amount of games (which is <30 gp to me) in front of him. If we exclude those, he'd be, starting from 18-19 to 21-22 in that order, 7th, 7th, 11th (10th if threshold is 41 gp) and 12th (9th if threshold is 41 gp).

Besides 20-21 (coincidentally with Ducharme as a coach) he was more of a middle 6 player on the team than a bottom 6 if you look at his deployment charts on hockeyviz (I've linked them if you click the season)

 

[Runner77]

You wouldn't think that if you were first name basis with him and he f***ed your girlfriend and he shook your hand afterwards. Yes I'm still sour lol

What kind of site is this?

And how do we dissuade Wideman from f***ing our girlfriends?

 

[CDN24]

Show me the linemates. Stop avoiding it

What do linemates have to do with it? You say he was a 13th forward (who by definition is in and out of the lineup). We showed that other than when on IR he played pretty much all the games.

 

[HuGort]

They were on 690 yesterday, this tournament raised $800,000 for charity

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Show me the linemates. Stop avoiding it

He averaged 15 minutes of time on ice in his time here. That's 3rd Line usage.

 

[Rapala]

Show me the linemates. Stop avoiding it

What do his linemates have to do with your initial statement which was pure BS. Lehkonen was never a 13th forward why would anyone take the time to look up his linemates when you haven't even admitted that you were wrong on that point?

20/21 AVG TOI 13:89
19/20 AVG TOI 15:93
18/19 AVG TOI 15:63
17/18 AVG TOI 16:08
16/17 AVG TOI 13:28

There is not one season Arturri Lehkonen played 4th line minutes as a Hab.
That includes his rookie season. There were obviously certainly instances where he was deployed on a 4th line but that was not the norm.

 

[Adam Michaels]

They were on 690 yesterday, this tournament raised $800,000 for charity

More actually

 

[HuGort]

More actually

$15,000 to attend wasn't it?