lets just say moving forward that i feel rakall is very close to pacioretty now and will get very close to him soon. shouldnt say that in front of duck fans tho. fowler is what were hoping beaulieu will become. just takes the risk out of it because fowler would thrive with weber. rakall helps our center depth as well as being able to play either wing. dropoff from patches to rakall is 35-25 in goals. that includes all empty netters.
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lets just say moving forward that i feel rakall is very close to pacioretty now and will get very close to him soon. shouldnt say that in front of duck fans tho. fowler is what were hoping beaulieu will become. just takes the risk out of it because fowler would thrive with weber. rakall helps our center depth as well as being able to play either wing. dropoff from patches to rakall is 35-25 in goals. that includes all empty netters.
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Well lets say moving forward i don't believe that rakall is near Patches nor do i believe he will get close. While rakall might help our center depth moving Patches destroys our left wing.Just imagine Carr our top Left winger.
As for your empty net goals.They are important and also shows that the coach has faith in Patches defending with a one goal lead.
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This has already been proposed on these forums and the answer is no. We are not interest in getting a defenseman even if we trade any away so no interested in Beaulieu at all. Also not interested in trading away Rakell.
Rackell can and has played on LW doing fine.
I wouldn't trade Fowler and Rakell for Pacioretty
Well lets say moving forward i don't believe that rakall is near Patches nor do i believe he will get close. While rakall might help our center depth moving Patches destroys our left wing.Just imagine Carr our top Left winger.
As for your empty net goals.They are important and also shows that the coach has faith in Patches defending with a one goal lead.
Rakall can play the left side well and is solid defensively to.
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Daigle put up a grandiose display in juniors and didn't turn into much, your point?
Rakell has only been in the league for a little over 2 years, and has showed steady improvement each year. Fringe NHLer to decent 3rd liner to good top 6 forward who just came into his own this year offensively, and was nearly on a 50 point pace. He's still only 23.
the thread of pacioretty and beaulieu for fowler and rakall is reasonable valu wise but as we have seen the ducks have no need for beaulieu. they do have issues with internal salary and signing both lindholm and rakall. i really think andrighetto would slot nicely on any three lines with a nice scoring touch. there may be another prospect/young player that would be preferred. andrighetto should have no problem replacing 15 of the 20 markers that rakall had at what would be a quarter of the cost. (650000 vs estimated 2.5 mil ) i cant see how pacioretty andrighetto and a third couldnt make the deal for fowler and rakall become a reality.
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Any trade involving Pacs for Rakell and Fowler. The habs downgrade massively, which in effect kills its LW position, to add a third liner C and a top 4 D. Yeah but no.
Beaulieu has yet to reach his potential, selling him now would be selling low on him. You're supposed to sell high not low. Business 101.
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I would see a deal going on like this and favorise both teams :
Fowler + Rakell
vs
Pacioretty + Hudon/Carr/Ghetto
Value wise for me, it's almost a wash. Maybe slightly favors the Habs but not much.
Gives Anaheim that top 3 lw to complement Perry and Getzlaf or Kesler if Anaheim wants two duos.
Gives Mtl a great fit for Weber and a better LHD depth. Top 4 would be complete and balanced.
Rakell would be an adequate replacement for Plekanec in two years as our 2nd line center. And can partially replace Pacioretty's offense for 2 years.
Hudon, Carr and Andrighetto are 3 talented middle 6, cost controlled forwards. If they want a versatile forward that can play both lw and center, Hudon is the guy. If they want a gritty, Gallagher type of player, Carr is the guy. If they want an offensive minded forward that can play on a second line, Ghetto is the guy.
That trade also gives both teams the opportunity to protect one more player comes expansion, as Anaheim would have lost a good D and Mtl a good prospect.
Fowler + Rakell
vs
Pacioretty + Hudon/Carr/Ghetto
Value wise for me, it's almost a wash. Maybe slightly favors the Habs but not much.
Gives Anaheim that top 3 lw to complement Perry and Getzlaf or Kesler if Anaheim wants two duos.
Gives Mtl a great fit for Weber and a better LHD depth. Top 4 would be complete and balanced.
Rakell would be an adequate replacement for Plekanec in two years as our 2nd line center. And can partially replace Pacioretty's offense for 2 years.
Hudon, Carr and Andrighetto are 3 talented middle 6, cost controlled forwards. If they want a versatile forward that can play both lw and center, Hudon is the guy. If they want a gritty, Gallagher type of player, Carr is the guy. If they want an offensive minded forward that can play on a second line, Ghetto is the guy.
That trade also gives both teams the opportunity to protect one more player comes expansion, as Anaheim would have lost a good D and Mtl a good prospect.
I'd wish GM Murray doesn't see Lindholm as high as Ducks fans. I'd do Pacioretty for Lindholm straight up.
I'm pretty confident with Radulov and our young guys (Lekhonen, Hudon, Carr, Andrighetto), losing Pacioretty wouldn't hurt THAT much. Our D would be amazing.
Lindholm-Weber
Beaulieu/Markov-Petry
Beaulieu/Markov-Emelin
One can dream..
I'm pretty confident with Radulov and our young guys (Lekhonen, Hudon, Carr, Andrighetto), losing Pacioretty wouldn't hurt THAT much. Our D would be amazing.
Lindholm-Weber
Beaulieu/Markov-Petry
Beaulieu/Markov-Emelin
One can dream..
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That would be insane. But indeed a big wet dream, unless Lindholm don't want to play there, which i think is pretty much impossible.
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Pacioretty gets yelled at by jerk John Torterella and now suddenly he's being traded for spare parts? The guy is a prime age top 20 goal scorer in the league on a super value contract.
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Fowler is a #2 dman, Rakell is a top six forward. Those are not spare parts.
well for starters fowler would be a perfect pairing guy for weber. better than beaulieu markov or emelin. rakall can play left wing on a top line now and become nice center depth insurance down the road. the drop off from pacioretty to rakall is about 10 goals but the upgrade on defence is huge and fowler is still only 24.
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Not interested. If we're giving up two great young players then I'd want two back in return.
Galchenyuk and Gallagher for Rakell and Fowler.
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We don't know who will have good chemistry with Weber, or if Fowler will. Better to try the 3 decent to good LD-men already on roster before taking chances on expensive acquisitions.
why but why........ would you want to trade a 35 to 40 goal scorer ? Not like Montreal has 3 or 4 of these....
Come on please lol. Try to not be so biased, both Gallys are worth more than Rakell or Fowler, let alone both in a deal for them.
Don't get me wrong, I love Rakell and Fowler (especially Rakell) but both aren't in Gallys' group based on value. There could be a case about Gallagher and Fowler, but still.
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