Proposal: Habs and ducks
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Kraken Jokes
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dracom
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Lol didnt see it and probably because because it could work cap wise and could make sense from both side!
Montreals upgrades their puck moving D, downgrades a little their offense but gets younger, and i feel like montreal needs a playmaker and little fancy creative player more than a scoring power foward like pacioretty with galchenyuk turning into a solid sniper and with the addition of radulov!,
Ducks downgrades their defense a bit but still a young with high upside whos cheap and rfa, and get a solid prime scorer who could realy do damage on the ducks powerplay and still signed for mad cheap 3 years.
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I think we need a forward while keeping rakell which I means we prob don't make good partners cause I assume Montreal needs a forward coming bake if they lose pac. Also prob would need a forward prospect/young player not beal... he would just be trade use.
Id add to fowler to get patch but I don't think adding rakell and Beal makes thee trade for Anaheim, if anything it makes it worse
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WhatTheDuck
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lindholmie
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Well the add would definately not be Beau (strictly value wise) - if anything.
Pacioretty is on one of the best contracts in the NHL. He has a ton of value.
WhatTheDuck
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I like pacioretty and hee would be a perfect fit.. but we arnt really in a position to deal our forwards, and I don't think Montreal is in a position to trade pacioretty without a decent forward coming back. So a deal around fowler + prospect/pick doesn't really help Ott, I think we just make bad trade partners.
Hence why a guy like JvR or Tatar make more sense because Detroit/leafs don't need a forward coming back they can move a guy like tatar or jvr and just take a dmen back.
WhatTheDuck
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In terms of value I would agree Patches is worth more than Fowler, mainly due to contract reasons, but asking for an affordable young top 6 forward in addition is major overkill.
That's a terrible deal for the Habs actually. Rakell hasn't proven more than an average top 6 guy. Never had big numbers even in junior. Fowler is ideally a #3 defenseman with his 30 points per year.
For ducks fans, would you trade Corey Perry for that package if he was 4 years younger and had half the cap hit? Perry and Pacioretty are pretty much tied in points/PointPerGame in the last 4 years, Perry is paid 8.625m/year and Pacioretty makes 4.5m/year.
WhatTheDuck
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Apples and oranges, the teams have completely different needs. Of course the Ducks would have no interest in moving one of their top forwards for a package headlined by a Dman.
I don't know why you think Fowler's offensive numbers are that important, but you need to remember that's what he's produced while taken on #1 defensive responsibility. He's a #2 on most teams and most certainly would be on the Habs.
The difference in contract is Max costs 500k more and signed for an additional year.
Pacioretty would have been 2nd in scoring last season for Anaheim, 1st in points at basically half the price of Perry and Getzlaf. He is severely underrated.
WhatTheDuck
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Fowler is also severely underrated due to people not being able to take advanced stats in proper context. I'm perfectly willing to admit Patches has more value, but the difference there isn't anything close to a young top 6 forward.
Kraken Jokes
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The way I see it, The Ducks are looking more scoring depth on wing. They wouldn't be so enticed to give up a scoring winger in a Fowler trade. I doubt this would be the best offer they get.
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How about Fowler + Rakell for Pacioretty + one of Scherbak/De la Rose ?
While I don't want to lose Rakell, we could free up some salary cap for Lindholm, and definitely upgrade our Top 6 LW. Rakell may have had a breakout last year, but one year doesn't make a career either. He would definitely contribute more to the Ducks this year, but both Montreal forward prospects are expected to be Top 6 NHL forwards with size and skill in the very near future.
Pacioretty > Fowler for trade value.
Rakell >> forward prospect, except we get the benefit of freeing up some cap dollars.
While I don't want to lose Rakell, we could free up some salary cap for Lindholm, and definitely upgrade our Top 6 LW. Rakell may have had a breakout last year, but one year doesn't make a career either. He would definitely contribute more to the Ducks this year, but both Montreal forward prospects are expected to be Top 6 NHL forwards with size and skill in the very near future.
Pacioretty > Fowler for trade value.
Rakell >> forward prospect, except we get the benefit of freeing up some cap dollars.
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Isn't better on the RW? Trading Pacioretty for a RW when we have Gallagher/Radulov and trash on the left side makes zero sense.
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Anaheim has an over abundance of D if they trade Fowler away why would they take Beaulieu back in return. Anaheim has no use for a D-man in return they already have better D then Beaulieu.
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