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[Mr. Canucklehead]

Any updates re: Myers yet?

None yet. If he is out for term, I wonder how the Canucks approach it. Wolanin and Brannstrom are down on the farm. Justin Schultz is still out there as an FA. And then there’s the trade market.

 

[krutovsdonut]

bring up woo. it's time.

ducking

 

[krutovsdonut]

in all seriousness the 180 pivot people have done on myers to now being super choked he is hurt is interesting. i like him, we will miss him, but we ought to have the depth to cover for him if we are anything like a contender and so if we don't it's good to find out now.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Expecting myers out six months min and an impact trade from the chef before usa Thanksgiving

 

[brock hughes007]

None yet. If he is out for term, I wonder how the Canucks approach it. Wolanin and Brannstrom are down on the farm. Justin Schultz is still out there as an FA. And then there’s the trade market.

If they go the trade route I'm sure our 1st is gonna be gone.

 

[ChilliBilly]

As of now, I have no interest in moving Willander, Lekk or our 1st (maybe even our 2nd). I want to be good for a while and not have to re-live the mid 2010's again in a couple of years. And I say this as someone who will be turning 60 during this upcoming season. I want to see a Stanley Cup in my lifetime, but more than that, I don't want to see another decade of depressing suckage again. There's been too many of those.

This. We keep complaining the cupboard is bare, but keep making proposals for rentals. What did it get us last year?

I think we regress from last year, and end up about 6 - 7 th in the west. We should not be trading what little futures we have.

 

[Vector]

None yet. If he is out for term, I wonder how the Canucks approach it. Wolanin and Brannstrom are down on the farm. Justin Schultz is still out there as an FA. And then there’s the trade market.

Friedman would be the guy, I bet. If they want to stay out of LTIR, send down Bains and recall Friedman. No change in cap and Friedman can play wing in a pinch.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

As of now, I have no interest in moving Willander, Lekk or our 1st (maybe even our 2nd). I want to be good for a while and not have to re-live the mid 2010's again in a couple of years. And I say this as someone who will be turning 60 during this upcoming season. I want to see a Stanley Cup in my lifetime, but more than that, I don't want to see another decade of depressing suckage again. There's been too many of those.

Then the roster we have right now is what we're taking into the playoffs. And to be frank, barring yet another career year from everyone important, we're not making it through the likes of Colorado or Dallas. Hell, much as I hate to say it, we'd struggle with Edmonton too.

We simply don't have the depth to make a serious cup run right now without mortgaging the future. None of that is to say we should trade any one of those for any old add. I actually wouldn't be interested in moving Willander or Lekk unless it was for a huge, long term, upgrade. Our 1st or 2nd though? Punt them out the door, again, for the right addition.

 

[VanJack]

Even contending teams these days desperately need young guys on entry-level contracts. It's just a fact of life in a salary cap world.

Trading any of our prospects right now , but particularly Lekkerimaki or Wilander, would be a major mistake. And even if you deal them for immediate help, there's still no guarantee of success.

How many splashy acquisitions at the trade deadline actually work out? I seems, not many. Last year the Canucks blew four draft picks out the door including their first rounder, plus a couple of prospects, to acquire Zadorov and Lindholm.

In the end, it still wasn't enough for them to get past the conference semi-finals.

 

[kanucks25]

As of now, I have no interest in moving Willander, Lekk or our 1st (maybe even our 2nd). I want to be good for a while and not have to re-live the mid 2010's again in a couple of years. And I say this as someone who will be turning 60 during this upcoming season. I want to see a Stanley Cup in my lifetime, but more than that, I don't want to see another decade of depressing suckage again. There's been too many of those.

This. We keep complaining the cupboard is bare, but keep making proposals for rentals. What did it get us last year?

I think we regress from last year, and end up about 6 - 7 th in the west. We should not be trading what little futures we have.

Like I mentioned in another post, if we trade a 1st this year it'll likely be for a player that fits the age of our current core and one we indeed to keep long-term like Hronek.

After that, we don't even have the cap room to continue to make trades like this in the future, so the 1st rounders will be kept and used on actually drafting.

What we gave up for Lindholm was tough but you have to remember that trade was not just to load up at the deadline, it was also Pettersson insurance; if he didn't want to sign he would have been traded in the summer and Lindholm would have been retained.

I don't see us making a big rental-only trade until the team shows they are 1 piece away from being a juggernaut.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Then the roster we have right now is what we're taking into the playoffs. And to be frank, barring yet another career year from everyone important, we're not making it through the likes of Colorado or Dallas. Hell, much as I hate to say it, we'd struggle with Edmonton too.

We simply don't have the depth to make a serious cup run right now without mortgaging the future. None of that is to say we should trade any one of those for any old add. I actually wouldn't be interested in moving Willander or Lekk unless it was for a huge, long term, upgrade. Our 1st or 2nd though? Punt them out the door, again, for the right addition.

I think we need what happened at the start of last year. We need out top players to all have career years. Otherwise we are going nowhere. Petey needs to get going.

And unless that happens, keep our prospects and our picks. We have very little cap space anyways.

 

[bandwagonesque]

None yet. If he is out for term, I wonder how the Canucks approach it. Wolanin and Brannstrom are down on the farm. Justin Schultz is still out there as an FA. And then there’s the trade market.

I thought I read somewhere there was no structural damage?

EDIT: Article in The Province --

"He’d had scans on his leg post-game Friday, Tocchet acknowledged, and apparently the results of those scans were positive. Myers is considered day-to-day and will travel on the upcoming road trip, which starts Tuesday in Tampa."

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I thought I read somewhere there was no structural damage?

EDIT: Article in The Province --

"He’d had scans on his leg post-game Friday, Tocchet acknowledged, and apparently the results of those scans were positive. Myers is considered day-to-day and will travel on the upcoming road trip, which starts Tuesday in Tampa."

I wrote my post before that report, which is great news.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Even contending teams these days desperately need young guys on entry-level contracts. It's just a fact of life in a salary cap world.

Trading any of our prospects right now , but particularly Lekkerimaki or Wilander, would be a major mistake. And even if you deal them for immediate help, there's still no guarantee of success.

How many splashy acquisitions at the trade deadline actually work out? I seems, not many. Last year the Canucks blew four draft picks out the door including their first rounder, plus a couple of prospects, to acquire Zadorov and Lindholm.

In the end, it still wasn't enough for them to get past the conference semi-finals.

Wrong.

 

[mriswith]

Can't buy anything major when Demko is so unknown. We aren't going anywhere with him out even if we improve the d.

 

[Peen]

Can't buy anything major when Demko is so unknown. We aren't going anywhere with him out even if we improve the d.

The other top teams in the west have bad goalies.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Call Brannstrom up, cowards.

 

[David71]

liljegren cant be any worse than vd. ? too bad he makes 3million. can we swap forbort for liljegren? lol. 2 righties on the third pairing except hes a puck mover and can skate?

 

[VanJack]

Unfortunately this first month or so of the season is probably shaping up as a tough one for Vancouver.......in fact it wouldn't shock me if they hovered around the .500 mark, maybe even to the end of November.

The problem is 'turnover', They have two new d-men; two goalies who weren't on the team at the start of last season; and four new forwards (six if you count Raty and Bains who are currently up with the big club.

That works out to an almost 40 percent roster turnover. You can see the Canucks are still confused out there on defensive assignments. They're 'thinking' instead of just 'reacting'.

So patience is going to be the watchword in the first quarter of the season. An Canuck fans will be riding a bit of a roller-coaster.

 

[Coffees]

Should the Canucks snag Patrick Kane at the deadline ?
Dude’s honestly still got it, the surgery he got was a huge success , he’s quick out there.

 

[arttk]

Unfortunately this first month or so of the season is probably shaping up as a tough one for Vancouver.......in fact it wouldn't shock me if they hovered around the .500 mark, maybe even to the end of November.

The problem is 'turnover', They have two new d-men; two goalies who weren't on the team at the start of last season; and four new forwards (six if you count Raty and Bains who are currently up with the big club.

That works out to an almost 40 percent roster turnover. You can see the Canucks are still confused out there on defensive assignments. They're 'thinking' instead of just 'reacting'.

So patience is going to be the watchword in the first quarter of the season. An Canuck fans will be riding a bit of a roller-coaster.

The lack of chemistry is obvious at this point, might take like 10 games for the group to gel. Let hope the PK can holdup and the PP will be like game1 PP vs the game2 PP. If those 2 aspect holdsup then we should be fine.

Should the Canucks snag Patrick Kane at the deadline ?
Dude’s honestly still got it, the surgery he got was a huge success , he’s quick out there.

we are probably on his NTC list.

 

[Coffees]

we are probably on his NTC list.

Who knows. Hypothetical situation if Detroit is out of it by deadline , I’m sure Kane himself knows and believes he can elevate Pettersson’s game and his owns if he joins a Canucks team that’s playoff bound

I truly don’t see any other top team in our conference at least that would be a better fit

 

[StickShift]

Can't buy anything major when Demko is so unknown. We aren't going anywhere with him out even if we improve the d.

That is ridiculous. They almost beat the Oilers in game 7 with their third string goalie. I don’t think it’s possible for Rutherford teams to not go for it.

 

[arttk]

Can't buy anything major when Demko is so unknown. We aren't going anywhere with him out even if we improve the d.

management are going to be aggressive as long as we are in the playoffs.

 

[Hodgy]

That is ridiculous. They almost beat the Oilers in game 7 with their third string goalie. I don’t think it’s possible for Rutherford teams to not go for it.

I’ve made this point to @mriswith in the past.

Obviously the chances of us going deep are reduced by Demko being injured, but pretty clearly he’s not a condition precedent to that occurring. Frankly, Silovs wasn’t even that great in the playoffs last year and we almost went to the western conference finals.

The window is now for the Canucks, and other than trade for a goalie or something, I don’t think they should put too much weight into Demko’s current health in October.