Grub's Canucks & NHL News, Rumours, and & Fantasy GM | Training Camp Begins

[Vector]

-changing Demko's workload
-Ian Clark's resume includes Luongo and Bobrovsky never taking a day off and both are/will be Hall-of-Famers and Demko has the same talent and drive
-teams are starting to say they can't ride their goalies this hard anymore
-likens this to the change in pitching in MLB
-no one's playing 75 games anymore
-Demko is at the flashpoint of this change
-no more practicing as much
-each team gets 4 days off a month and wonders if goalies will get more days off
-Bukauskas brings up the "reverse-v" goalie style that puts a lot of torque on the knee and how there's going to be a change away from this style

 

[Vector]

Hoglander:
-was really surprised at this signing
-two sides started talking in the summer but put it aside
-he showed up to training camp in great shape and Canucks re-start talks
-sends a message to the rest of the young kids what happens when you are committed
-Hoglander really wants to stay in Vancouver; even when he was sent to Abbotsford didn't want to leave the organization
-signing now gives him a forward spot rather than get squeezed out
-contract would have been higher if he gave up UFA years
-Sedins twins spent a lot of time helping Hoglander in Abbotsford
-very humble kid
-told his agent to get the deal done

Boeser:
-doesn't think the Verhaeghe contract is a comparison; would be 7.7m with a market with state tax
-keeping Boeser is ideal
-if Boeser keeps scoring the number starts with an 8
-not hearing of any negotiations
-Canucks decided not to talk extension during the summer
-thinks he will eventually extend

Lafreniere:
-Boeser's agent will use Lafreniere's next contract as a comparison
-Canucks were after him when Allvin first got here
-Castonguay was his agent

Goaltending:
-people that were praising Silovs during the playoffs need to show patience with him now
-Lankinen's agent called the Canucks on July 1st
-Lankinen has a history with Torenius from Finland and worked together 2-3 times a week this summer
-Demko is working out daily with Joshua

Joshua:
-is doing whatever it takes to get healthy but it's a process
-getting his cardio up to NHL levels is not going to be easy
-arrived to Vancouver in game-shape in early August
-had surgery after arriving
-couldn't work out for a couple of weeks
-probably around 3 more weeks away

Defence:
-a lot of people reached out to Dhaliwal when the Canucks signed Desharnais to 2m questioning the signing
-Tocchet has said he could sit some games and be in a rotation with Juulsen
-right-side third pair may be one of the improvements the Canucks have to make at the deadline

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Targeting size on the backend while simultaneously wanting dmen to be able to move the puck (and quickly) seems like a mistake atm.

Going to be very curious to see how they adjust/pivot.

 

[timw33]

Lafreniere:
-Boeser's agent will use Lafreniere's next contract as a comparison
-Canucks were after him when Allvin first got here

Looking like they had the right read on Lafreniere when he was struggling a couple years ago.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I’m more puzzled as to why we resigned a soon to be 34 year old Myers to another 3 year contract.

Just an overall bad decision. His NMC + contract length guarantees us no flexibility.

 

[Vector]

I’m more puzzled as to why we resigned a soon to be 34 year old Myers to another 3 year contract.

Just an overall bad decision. His NMC + contract length guarantees us no flexibility.

Lack of trade assets and the cost of big veteran defence ended up being crazy high this summer (ex1: Edmundson ex2: Dillon ex3: Lyubushkin).

 

[timw33]

I’m more puzzled as to why we resigned a soon to be 34 year old Myers to another 3 year contract.

Just an overall bad decision. His NMC + contract length guarantees us no flexibility.

It's too bad we couldn't get Steve Yzerman to pay us a 2nd round pick to take on Jake Walman for 2 years at 3.4MM instead, and then use that 2nd as part of dumping Mikeyev, and still have our 2nd as an asset to improve another area.

 

[LemonSauceD]

It's too bad we couldn't get Steve Yzerman to pay us a 2nd round pick to take on Jake Walman for 2 years at 3.4MM instead, and then use that 2nd as part of dumping Mikeyev, and still have our 2nd as an asset to improve another area.

A 2027 2nd has no value right now.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Lack of trade assets and the cost of big veteran defence ended up being crazy high this summer (ex1: Edmundson ex2: Dillon ex3: Lyubushkin).

The market rate for aging #4/#5 defenseman this summer was ridiculous.

Allvin and JR have done a decent job at stop-gap options but the cold truth is there is no rectifying so many years of poor drafting and development. Our inability to draft a good defenseman outside of Hughes between 2017-2021 is f***ing us now.

Vegas is able to churn out a decent defensive unit by relying on a stream of cheap young players they drafted or signed: Korczak, Hague and Whitecloud.

 

[timw33]

The market rate for aging #4/#5 defenseman this summer was ridiculous.

Allvin and JR have done a decent job at stop-gap options but the cold truth is there is no rectifying so many years of poor drafting and development. Our inability to draft a good defenseman outside of Hughes between 2017-2021 is f***ing us now.

Vegas is able to churn out a decent defensive unit by relying on a stream of cheap young players they drafted or signed: Korczak, Hague and Whitecloud.

Yeah we need to acknowledge that they are still managing this team with handicaps from the previous group, even 3 years later.