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[arttk]

Generational, to me, are players who have both dominated the game and significantly changed/grown the game.

McDavid, Crosby/Ovi, Roy, Hasek, Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Howe, Richard - hard to go back further, but probably Vezina gets on the list.

Lindros dominated and changed the game, but maybe not for long enough.

Lindros played at a 100pt+ pace during the dead puck era. I guess the only reason we don’t talk about him as much is because he never played a full season and his career was cut short at his peak by a Steven’s elbow to the head.

 

[oceanchild]

The generational word is pretty self explanatory. You're likely only to see 1 of these players in a generation. Lots of people loosen it up and add all sorts of players like Mackinnon or Makar in to the conversation.

McDavid and Crosby are the only ones in my lifetime and I'm 38 years old.

Wayne and Mario were playing when you were a kid.

 

[oceanchild]

I think the "subjectivity" of it is probably more due to the word "Generational" than the players themselves. In my era (70's until now), how many generations would that really account for? Just talking goalies for example, during my time as a hockey fan I would say that Hasek, Brodeur and Roy (in that order) were THE goalies of the time and I don't think there have been any since who are at that level, all 3 are, or are very close to generational goalies, but if they are all from virtually the same generation can they all be generational? I don't know maybe I'm just overthinking, it but that's where the subjectivity comes from for me.

The game was so different and it’s often not discussed. That was the dead pick era when scoring was down and large slow defensemen who hung onto forwards and used sticks like axes to chop down faster skaters thrived. The reason those goalies stand out is more about the way the game was played then the level of talent they had relative to current goalies.

 

[Nuckles]

Start the countdown on the Pettersson+ for Brady Tkachuk+ blockbuster. The NTC doesn't kick in until the off-season.

 

[oceanchild]

Start the countdown on the Pettersson+ for Brady Tkachuk+ blockbuster

Without Lindholm I don’t think our center depth allows it.

 

[strattonius]

Wayne and Mario were playing when you were a kid.

I saw a bit of both. I don't consider either apart of my generation.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Start the countdown on the Pettersson+ for Brady Tkachuk+ blockbuster. The NTC doesn't kick in until the off-season.

That or Tage Thompson+.

 

[Vector]

I saw a bit of both. I don't consider either apart of my generation.

I mean, you did say in your lifetime. We're also the same age and I certainly saw quite a bit of Lemieux in the second half of his career. Gretzky was just retiring as I was getting into hockey.

 

[F A N]

In terms of the generational player talk it really depends on the definition. If it’s simply the best player(s) of his generation then a guy like Jagr should be part of discussion as he was widely considered the best player in the game for a stretch of time. Similarly I think Bure belongs in the discussion as far as being a goal scorer. How many goal scoring titles would he have had if not for his knee injuries?

I kind of feel that a generational player should be able to succeed playing in any era all else being equal and there could be more than one generational player in any era.