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LemonSauceD

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Hoglander, Forbort, Juulsen, Desharnais, Soucy OUT.

D needs a total revamp. Hoglander needs to be moved as well.

We won’t be going far with our Disastrous 4 (really 5 with Myers but his NMC guarantees he’s stuck with us).
 

mriswith

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Myers buyout this summer is not as bad as I expected:

Buyout ResultsInitial Cap HitSavingsBuyout Cap Hit
2025-26$3,000,000$2,033,333$966,667
2026-27$3,000,000$1,433,333$1,566,667
2027-28-$866,667$866,667
2028-29-$866,667$866,667
 

VanJack

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Myers buyout this summer is not as bad as I expected:

Buyout ResultsInitial Cap HitSavingsBuyout Cap Hit
2025-26$3,000,000$2,033,333$966,667
2026-27$3,000,000$1,433,333$1,566,667
2027-28-$866,667$866,667
2028-29-$866,667$866,667
And rumor has it the cap is going up to at least $92m and maybe even as high as $95m.

Said it before.....time to get D-Petey and Wilander into the mix. Will they make some mistakes? Sure they will. But you can live with the glitches as long as they're improving.
 

Ninjadude

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Another Pettersson addition to the blueline would be a welcome upgrade, but what does that extension look like ...

We need a (couple) Kovacevic/Jiricek/Schneider type dman addition(s) to grow & contribute with this team this year, but more importantly the next two with cuck oel cap penalty.

The cap going up extra next year will help, and maybe willander or ep2 earning a spot will help, but the Canucks cap sheet is pretty efficient already, going to be tough to fit any medium plus sized contracts in the next few years.
I'd like the Nucks to explore trading for Jiricek. Big RD and still very young and potentially develope into a top 4 for years to come. I'm sure the price would be high but this current D core needs serious help.
 

VanJack

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Every year, the Canucks have been forced to go out and sign at least two or three UFA d-men.

This off-season, it was Desharnais, Forbort and Myers, if you include him as a UFA. And of course they basically rescued Brannstrom from the Av's.

Sometimes the new guys work, and sometimes they don't. That's just the risk. At this writing, the blueline simply isn't good enough. It could be decent enough to make the playoffs, but not to go very far.

So either the Canucks enter the crowded trade market and give up assets they can ill afford to give up. Or they start introducing some younger guys into the lineup and let them grow under the tutelage of Foote and Gonchar.

Really, it's coming down to the latter option as the only way out--but might mean sacrificing another year on player development at the NHL level.
 
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Every year, the Canucks have been forced to go out and sign at least two or three UFA d-men.

This off-season, it was Desharnais, Forbort and Myers, if you include him as a UFA. And of course they basically rescued Brannstrom from the Av's.

Sometimes the new guys work, and sometimes they don't. That's just the risk. At this writing, the blueline simply isn't good enough. It could be decent enough to make the playoffs, but not to go very far.

So either the Canucks enter the crowded trade market and give up assets they can ill afford to give up. Or they start introducing some younger guys into the lineup and let them grow under the tutelage of Foote and Gonchar.

Really, it's coming down to the latter option as the only way out--but might mean sacrificing another year on player development at the NHL level.
This team has spent the last 20 years drafting Dmen with only Hughes to show for it. Hughes is the GOAT for us of course but lets take a look at our drafting and lack of development. 20th year ago was Bourdons draft so thats not really fair, 21st was Edlers. The last 19 drafts we’ve selected 44 D, now lets rank the few who made the NHL

Hughes (2018) 381+GP.
Forsling (2014) 415+GP, 0 with us. Turned into a top pair elsewhere
Hutton (2012) 513+GP, 276 with us. Bottom pair/scratch since leaving
Connauton (2009) 360GP, 0 with us. Journeyman
Corrado (2011) 76GP, 28 with us. Bust
Tryamkin (2014) 73GP. Bottom pair, went home
Juolevi (2016) 41GP, 24 with us. Bust
Rathbone (2017) 28GP. Busting elsewhere
Brisebois (2015) 27GP. Busting
Sauve (2008) 8GP. Bust

A 19 year span and we have Hughes and a few seasons of Hutton to show for it. Forsling wouldve been nice if he was kept and had the same career. We have to hope that Pettersson and Willander pan out
 

theguardianII

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Speculation and fantasy stuff.

22 years ago there was a blockbuster trade, 5 players going each way.

Could another close to that be percolating? Only with 3 teams? Or two separate deals?

Vancouver, Boston and Columbus?

Columbus - Vancouver, Boeser and Garland for Jirieck, Johnson, Provorov and a 1st rnd pick.
Vancouver - Boston, JT Miller, Juulsen for Zadoroz/Carlo/Peeke, Kastelic and Geekie
Both could be pretty much cap neutral with the Nux gaining some space.
The Canucks cash in on elevated values after last year's playoff appearance.
Get younger, faster and opens the "window" longer.
Zadorov might agree to come back, his family really liked it here

Teams can expect to be paying 4,5,6 dmen 4+ mil in just another 2/3 years.

On the surface this looks like a loss for Vancouver but the defence becomes extremely deep and allows for other trades.

Picks could be dealt, Willander could then be available after all they already have Hughes and Hronek, Pittsburgh may even deal their 1rst for Willander.

This is pure fantasy and Tocchet would not be able to coach a group like this although there are many players of his type, boards guys. Since he puts hits over scoring he might be able to at that.

Trade for Rust, a Pitt guy that Allvin and Tocchet know

Calgary jettisoned many core players and are tied with the Canucks in points so not real doom and gloom, maybe just a bigger re-tooling but after 8 new players added that is pretty close to a re-whatever too.

This core has been mostly together for going on 6 years with little success.

Stale?
In need of a shake up?
Certainly shaking up the bottom of the lineup hasn't helped apparently.
 

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