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[oceanchild]

Welcome to the Canucks, Evgeni Malkin and Pettersson #3

How would we make that work ?

 

[Nuckles]

How would we make that work ?

illegally

 

[credulous]

i think the canucks could make miller work. soucy is close enough to match salary and fills the miller shaped hole left in the rangers roster. lekkerimaki, elias nils pettersson, kiril kudryavtsev, 2025/2026 firsts and seconds would surely all be of interest to the rangers

not sure it's worth it though. he hasn't really shown much improvement since making the nhl

i'm skeptical of hague for the same reason although i think vegas probably wants to hold onto him with mcnabb up and no one really on deck to replace either of them

 

[VanillaCoke]

K'Andre would be an incredible long term partner for Willander.

We don't need that.
We need an incredible long term partner for Hughes & Hronek, willander should be one of the two.

 

[Wisp]

We need an incredible long term partner for Hughes & Hronek, willander should be one of the two.

what does this even mean lol? gobblygoop

 

[VanillaCoke]

what does this even mean lol? gobblygoop

Sorry idk you can't read my bad.

 

[Vector]

Sorry idk you can't read my bad.

Are you having a stroke?

 

[VanillaCoke]

Are you having a stroke?

Are you also having a stroke?

 

[Vector]

Are you also having a stroke?

I have lost feeling in half my face and am slurring masdjnasklamsdkads

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

PSA announcement.

Only drink Vanilla Coke in moderation.

Too much at one time can cause harm to posts.

 

[LemonSauceD]

what does this even mean lol? gobblygoop

Willander and I don’t think Miller is good enough to be him. Miller and JT but they no Quinn Hughes.

 

[Nuckles]

what does this even mean lol? gobblygoop

I think he means Willander as a long term partner for Hughes, and someone else for Hronek

 

[LemonSauceD]

I think he means Williander as a long term partner for Hughes, and someone else for Hronek

Who’s Williander?

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Good interview with Kes. Man, at his peak he was incredible.

"I regret leaving Vancouver and going to the Ducks."

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Good interview with Kes. Man, at his peak he was incredible.

"I regret leaving Vancouver and going to the Ducks."

Grass isn't always greener.

Personally can't forgive him though.

 

[Rowlet]

How would we make that work ?

illegally

It's not that hard.

The Canucks are on pace to have roughly 5.5m in space by the deadline as is. Aman, and Raty will be sent down to get Malkin and Joshua back into the lineup, which frees another 1.6m, and a defenseman will be moved to fit Pettersson, which is an additional 800k-2m if they decide to move on from Desharnais. Silovs will be sent down to make room for Demko, which is another 850k. If the Pens retain a little bit, the Canucks can fit both rather easily.

5.5m + 1.6m + 800k + 850k = 8.75k in space, Pens would only have to retain like two million on Pettersson, which wouldn't carry over to next year. If they want Hoglander, then the Canucks bank another 300k. If the Pens take Desharnais, they won't have to retain at all and could try and flip Desharnais for an asset at a later date since they'll need a replacement blueliner.

 

[Diversification]

Do the Canucks trade for a second Miller or a second Pettersson?

We also need to corner the market on Hugheses while we're at it.

 

[arttk]

Do the Canucks trade for a second Miller or a second Pettersson?

Can we trade for all the pettersons and millers

 

[VanJack]

How would we make that work ?

Hockey DB has Marcus Pettersson listed at 6'5" and 174....is this true? If so, the guy must be built like a beanpole.

I guess he's a left-shot d-man who has been good enough to survive in the NHL for eight seasons with Anaheim and Pittsburgh. But he's an impending UFA, and if the Canucks were to acquire him, I'd be wary of giving up too much for him.

 

[MS]

Good interview with Kes. Man, at his peak he was incredible.

"I regret leaving Vancouver and going to the Ducks."

Good interview but terrible interviewing, if that makes sense.

Kesler’s ’I regret leaving’ is a massive deal and he seemed almost on the verge of tears saying it … and then the follow-up questions were super weak.

 

[Hodgy]

Good interview but terrible interviewing, if that makes sense.

Kesler’s ’I regret leaving’ is a massive deal and he seemed almost on the verge of tears saying it … and then the follow-up questions were super weak.

It’s easy for Kesler to say now. Totally f***ed his own legacy with the one team that he played for where he really mattered. Yeah, I’d regret that too.

 

[Vector]

Marcus Pettersson and Drew O’Connor are among those to follow. Pettersson deservedly gets a lot of attention, but O’Connor’s low number ($925,000) and flexibility makes him attractive, too. Last summer, Pittsburgh added. Months later, trading Jake Guentzel was the wakeup call, the sign Dubas felt it was time to follow a new path. What did Bill Parcells always say: “You are what your record says you are.”

That’s not easy in Western Pennsylvania. In the Crosby/Malkin era, the Penguins never concede. Jon Snow does not bend the knee.
Pittsburgh’s got good pieces with one more year — Noel Acciari, Michael Bunting and Alex Nedeljkovic — and other GMs know Dubas would like to take a few upper-deck swings, but is limited by both hard-to-move contracts and no-trade language.

If Sidney Crosby wished to go anywhere else, he wouldn’t have extended with the Penguins. The only way I could ever see it changing is if reality hit him harder than he expected. I don't see that right now. I don’t believe Pittsburgh wants to trade Evgeni Malkin, and I don’t believe he wants to go anywhere else.
Kris Letang has a no-move for three more seasons. Even if he wished a new address, it’s not going to be easy. No one disrespects Letang, fiercely prideful and determined. But his history of injuries and ailments make trading for the 37-year-old a gamble. And, it is difficult to know exactly how it all works, but NHL contracts can be uninsurable for pre-existing conditions. That’s a worry with him.

Erik Karlsson? Again, he’s got control. So it’s going to be up to him. Look at his contract structure, though. The salary drops from $11M now to $9M (2025-26), then $7.5M (2026-27), and San Jose has a bit of retention. A big chunk of next year’s money is a $5M signing bonus. He was traded from the Sharks to Pittsburgh on August 6, 2023, so, if a similar blueprint is followed, that’s even less of a financial commitment for an acquiring team.
Karlsson is taking a lot of heat locally and internationally — longtime Swedish league and National Team GM Johan Garpenlov told Radio Sporten the defenceman’s play is too much of a risk for the 4 Nations Tournament — but, as the salary drops, it’s not wrong to believe there would be interest. He’s still very, very talented.

Again, though, it is up to him.

As for Mike Sullivan: This is a coach who would be coveted elsewhere, is a huge favourite of ownership and maintains a strong relationship with Crosby. Dubas is against giving coaches the dreaded "vote of confidence.” He thinks it is counter-productive.

It’s fair to wonder if the time has come for Sullivan in Pittsburgh — that happens to all coaches — but, in the meantime, he’s taking no shortcuts. He’s just as committed as ever to solving the Penguins’ problems. If they fire him, they’re not doing it because he’s a bad coach. They’re doing it because they believe the Penguins need a new voice and someone else can do a better job with Pittsburgh as presently constructed.

What does this all mean? There are no quick fixes. Moves may not be as seismic as people hope — at least in the short term.

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1. Pettersson’s value increases with every defenceman who re-signs (Adam Larsson, Jake McCabe, etc). We’ll see how this evolves, but there are a lot of teams expecting Los Angeles to keep Vladislav Gavrikov, which would further shrink the free-agency pool. He’s off to a great start, playing a team-leading 23:22 per night for the Kings.

 

[arttk]

Marcus Pettersson and Drew O’Connor are among those to follow. Pettersson deservedly gets a lot of attention, but O’Connor’s low number ($925,000) and flexibility makes him attractive, too. Last summer, Pittsburgh added. Months later, trading Jake Guentzel was the wakeup call, the sign Dubas felt it was time to follow a new path. What did Bill Parcells always say: “You are what your record says you are.”

That’s not easy in Western Pennsylvania. In the Crosby/Malkin era, the Penguins never concede. Jon Snow does not bend the knee.
Pittsburgh’s got good pieces with one more year — Noel Acciari, Michael Bunting and Alex Nedeljkovic — and other GMs know Dubas would like to take a few upper-deck swings, but is limited by both hard-to-move contracts and no-trade language.

If Sidney Crosby wished to go anywhere else, he wouldn’t have extended with the Penguins. The only way I could ever see it changing is if reality hit him harder than he expected. I don't see that right now. I don’t believe Pittsburgh wants to trade Evgeni Malkin, and I don’t believe he wants to go anywhere else.
Kris Letang has a no-move for three more seasons. Even if he wished a new address, it’s not going to be easy. No one disrespects Letang, fiercely prideful and determined. But his history of injuries and ailments make trading for the 37-year-old a gamble. And, it is difficult to know exactly how it all works, but NHL contracts can be uninsurable for pre-existing conditions. That’s a worry with him.

Erik Karlsson? Again, he’s got control. So it’s going to be up to him. Look at his contract structure, though. The salary drops from $11M now to $9M (2025-26), then $7.5M (2026-27), and San Jose has a bit of retention. A big chunk of next year’s money is a $5M signing bonus. He was traded from the Sharks to Pittsburgh on August 6, 2023, so, if a similar blueprint is followed, that’s even less of a financial commitment for an acquiring team.
Karlsson is taking a lot of heat locally and internationally — longtime Swedish league and National Team GM Johan Garpenlov told Radio Sporten the defenceman’s play is too much of a risk for the 4 Nations Tournament — but, as the salary drops, it’s not wrong to believe there would be interest. He’s still very, very talented.

Again, though, it is up to him.

As for Mike Sullivan: This is a coach who would be coveted elsewhere, is a huge favourite of ownership and maintains a strong relationship with Crosby. Dubas is against giving coaches the dreaded "vote of confidence.” He thinks it is counter-productive.

It’s fair to wonder if the time has come for Sullivan in Pittsburgh — that happens to all coaches — but, in the meantime, he’s taking no shortcuts. He’s just as committed as ever to solving the Penguins’ problems. If they fire him, they’re not doing it because he’s a bad coach. They’re doing it because they believe the Penguins need a new voice and someone else can do a better job with Pittsburgh as presently constructed.

What does this all mean? There are no quick fixes. Moves may not be as seismic as people hope — at least in the short term.

---

1. Pettersson’s value increases with every defenceman who re-signs (Adam Larsson, Jake McCabe, etc). We’ll see how this evolves, but there are a lot of teams expecting Los Angeles to keep Vladislav Gavrikov, which would further shrink the free-agency pool. He’s off to a great start, playing a team-leading 23:22 per night for the Kings.

Jon snow does not bend the knee? Did they not watch season 7?

 

[Nuckles]

Marcus Pettersson and Drew O’Connor are among those to follow. Pettersson deservedly gets a lot of attention, but O’Connor’s low number ($925,000) and flexibility makes him attractive, too. Last summer, Pittsburgh added. Months later, trading Jake Guentzel was the wakeup call, the sign Dubas felt it was time to follow a new path. What did Bill Parcells always say: “You are what your record says you are.”

That’s not easy in Western Pennsylvania. In the Crosby/Malkin era, the Penguins never concede. Jon Snow does not bend the knee.
Pittsburgh’s got good pieces with one more year — Noel Acciari, Michael Bunting and Alex Nedeljkovic — and other GMs know Dubas would like to take a few upper-deck swings, but is limited by both hard-to-move contracts and no-trade language.

If Sidney Crosby wished to go anywhere else, he wouldn’t have extended with the Penguins. The only way I could ever see it changing is if reality hit him harder than he expected. I don't see that right now. I don’t believe Pittsburgh wants to trade Evgeni Malkin, and I don’t believe he wants to go anywhere else.
Kris Letang has a no-move for three more seasons. Even if he wished a new address, it’s not going to be easy. No one disrespects Letang, fiercely prideful and determined. But his history of injuries and ailments make trading for the 37-year-old a gamble. And, it is difficult to know exactly how it all works, but NHL contracts can be uninsurable for pre-existing conditions. That’s a worry with him.

Erik Karlsson? Again, he’s got control. So it’s going to be up to him. Look at his contract structure, though. The salary drops from $11M now to $9M (2025-26), then $7.5M (2026-27), and San Jose has a bit of retention. A big chunk of next year’s money is a $5M signing bonus. He was traded from the Sharks to Pittsburgh on August 6, 2023, so, if a similar blueprint is followed, that’s even less of a financial commitment for an acquiring team.
Karlsson is taking a lot of heat locally and internationally — longtime Swedish league and National Team GM Johan Garpenlov told Radio Sporten the defenceman’s play is too much of a risk for the 4 Nations Tournament — but, as the salary drops, it’s not wrong to believe there would be interest. He’s still very, very talented.

Again, though, it is up to him.

As for Mike Sullivan: This is a coach who would be coveted elsewhere, is a huge favourite of ownership and maintains a strong relationship with Crosby. Dubas is against giving coaches the dreaded "vote of confidence.” He thinks it is counter-productive.

It’s fair to wonder if the time has come for Sullivan in Pittsburgh — that happens to all coaches — but, in the meantime, he’s taking no shortcuts. He’s just as committed as ever to solving the Penguins’ problems. If they fire him, they’re not doing it because he’s a bad coach. They’re doing it because they believe the Penguins need a new voice and someone else can do a better job with Pittsburgh as presently constructed.

What does this all mean? There are no quick fixes. Moves may not be as seismic as people hope — at least in the short term.

---

1. Pettersson’s value increases with every defenceman who re-signs (Adam Larsson, Jake McCabe, etc). We’ll see how this evolves, but there are a lot of teams expecting Los Angeles to keep Vladislav Gavrikov, which would further shrink the free-agency pool. He’s off to a great start, playing a team-leading 23:22 per night for the Kings.

There's also this bit

The Penguins have let teams know that they are open for business. According to a couple of sources, their preference is young NHL players, followed by already-drafted prospects, followed by picks. The return for Eller — a third-rounder and a fifth-rounder — is typical for an unrestricted-free-agent-to-be. But, by clearing his salary (they did not have to retain), it opens flexibility to explore other options.

The info from the local reporter made it seem like they basically only wanted NHLers, or at least as the primary piece(s) in return. This says it's not a requirement.

 

[Wisp]

I think he means Willander as a long term partner for Hughes, and someone else for Hronek

if you get k'andre i don't really care which of hronek or willander you pair him with. the point is you have hughes, hronek, willander, k'andre.