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Buffalo honestly has a lot of good pieces I like. Which with a team doing as well as they have, comes with its own caveat emptor.

23 is mighty young to write someone off as a cap dump. Even if technically true. IMO.

It’s one of those things where you weigh his ceiling to his cap hit and the probability of reaching it. When Cozens was signed, it looked like he would have a high ceiling and low floor. Instead he’s regressed two seasons in a row and now looks like maybe he’ll always be overpaid. Pretty much the exact same as Kotkaniemi.

So even if he bounces back, what does that look like? Can he become a 50 point second line centre that’s good defensively and plays a heavy game? If not, that’s a pretty big risk to take.
 
Who’s a better fit? Bryam or Power?

Contract, etc everything including who’s the better player?
 
It’s one of those things where you weigh his ceiling to his cap hit and the probability of reaching it. When Cozens was signed, it looked like he would have a high ceiling and low floor. Instead he’s regressed two seasons in a row and now looks like maybe he’ll always be overpaid. Pretty much the exact same as Kotkaniemi.

So even if he bounces back, what does that look like? Can he become a 50 point second line centre that’s good defensively and plays a heavy game? If not, that’s a pretty big risk to take.

I think Cozens is a guy who could thrive under Tocchet...has size and speed, plays physical, not a complete liability defensively...still a lot to work with at 23 years old. The money/term is definitely a risk, but thats one I'd take on over someone like Chytil or some of the other possibilities bandied about.
 
It’s one of those things where you weigh his ceiling to his cap hit and the probability of reaching it. When Cozens was signed, it looked like he would have a high ceiling and low floor. Instead he’s regressed two seasons in a row and now looks like maybe he’ll always been overpaid. Pretty much the exact same as Kotkaniemi.

So even if he bounces back, what does that look like? Can he become a 50 point second line centre that’s good defensively and plays a heavy game? If not, that’s a pretty big risk to take.

I agree with your line of thinking. Kotkaniemi and Cozens, ones shown some promise...fleeting mind you, the other the second he was drafted was doomed. He was overdrafted, and I couldn't be more glad about it. Helped formed the board to get us Hughes, those smelly Frenchmen did (disclaimer: I have family from and in QC so it's a self-dig).

I'm not on the ups with the contract, but I do know the cap *should* be rising, and I'd expect in the Trump era for their to be more cult money for the bread and circuses, it could skyrocket. So with each passing year, it'll get more fair market value. He gets paid as a high-end 2C seems like, and is signed to 2030. In my mind, those are small little red lights blinking off, but maybe only a couple on a whole motherboard.

The player himself I did NOT like as a prospect. He was actually on my "please don't" list cause he was in range. But, y'know what? I think I was wrong about him. My belief is some guys go to situations like Buffalo, which is a veritable town of sorrows, nothing in the past, nothing on the horizon, here ya go kid, here's all the expectations and zero help and limited guidance from players who never had even a whiff of those similar expectations. Eventually, you just kind of lose your way and lose the fire that drove you to be a top prospect.

I acknowledge the risk, but there's risk in anything. There's risk in leaving the house for the day. My mindset is to embrace the risk, acknowledge it, and try your best to mitigate your risk. But, I'm a bit of a gambler at heart...so I'm a bit poor, but you have to be hawkish on them purse strings. That's just my experience, but the risk I see in Cozens is relatively small compared to the risk of leaving things as is. You have to do something, the team is as in shambles as I've seen in my short 20 years as a fan. Even the locker room is hostile, and openly so.

So, I believe Cozens can bounce back. I saw him what I thought outperform his first WJC, then take leadership in his 2nd to even greater (personal) result. There's more to the player than I had thought, and it's all upstairs. I think he's been left to hold the bag on the responsibility too many times, and he just keeps being given more to his own personal detriment. I think it's one of those "yeah it's risky now, but the risk flattens out later on if you put in the work now" situations. I'm not really expecting him to come in and solve problems, I'm expecting that to happen by cooling off a tense locker room. We'll probably tank the season, making the trade. But I'm expecting that to happen with pretty much any trade now.
 
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  • Talks with teams like the Buffalo Sabres continue
  • Senators are shopping Josh Norris; could try and package him for Pettersson
  • Allvin is seeking a centre as a the main piece; could look to add a defenceman in the package
 


  • Talks with teams like the Buffalo Sabres continue
  • Senators are shopping Josh Norris; could try and package him for Pettersson
  • Allvin is seeking a centre as a the main piece; could look to add a defenceman in the package


Josh Norris is the most damaged goods player in the league at this point. I don't want anything to do with him.
 
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What's going on with Power/Byram? Seems like two guys Sabres fans should be defending with their lives in trade talks (as every fanbase does with their prospects) yet they seem perfectly happy to part with either one, and maybe even both.

I know Byram has the concussion concerns but Power seems like a guy they should want to keep? What gives?
 


  • Talks with teams like the Buffalo Sabres continue
  • Senators are shopping Josh Norris; could try and package him for Pettersson
  • Allvin is seeking a centre as a the main piece; could look to add a defenceman in the package

If it is buffalo, hopefully the main piece is a defenceman.
 
Norris even if healthy is basically a slighty worse Horvat.

He's centre who can playmake.

Much rather have, at least Cozens has more speed.

I think Cozens is just misused in Buffalo.

He's tall and fast. Should be molded into a shutdown centre, like a Jordan Staal with more speed.
 
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Norris even if healthy is basically a slighty worse Horvat.

He's centre who can playmake.

Much rather have, at least Cozens has more speed.

I think Cozens is just misused in Buffalo.

He's tall and fast. Should be molded into a shutdown centre, like a Jordan Staal with more speed.
Maybe Buffalo can retain 1-2M? 7M+ for someone who is just tall and fast seems….expensive
 
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Me too, to be honest.

too snip-snap, snip-snap. Green, Boudreau, Tocchet, and Roger Neilson-in-a-paper-bag?

The poor players who dutifully took lessons from them and their staff while the stars skated around like a private school bantam club, must be so confused with all those voices in their head.

Eventually, it's on the players. They haven't figured it in 6 years and 3 coaching staffs. Maybe I'm wrong. Everyone in the hockey world seemed to love Travis before he got the HC gig, Boudreau has legacious success, Tocchet was the Jack Adams winner last year. Maybe I'm wrong and all the coaches we hire suck, but I'm not so sure anymore.
 
Norris even if healthy is basically a slighty worse Horvat.

He's centre who can playmake.

Much rather have, at least Cozens has more speed.

I think Cozens is just misused in Buffalo.

He's tall and fast. Should be molded into a shutdown centre, like a Jordan Staal with more speed.
how are you going to turn the guy who sucks defensively into a shutdown C? it might be easier to turn Desharanis into a PP QB.

edit: and Norris is a way better skater than Cozens
 
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where is this "willing to take a cut to stay" coming from? He apparently turned down $90mm over 8 which is a massive raise over the $9.25MM he'd been making...so the idea he was willing to take a cut is pure fiction IMO.
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Also it’s all relative, he might believe his market value is 15M and taking 14 is a cut.
 
if we’re taking Cozens back we should be pushing for them to retain part of his cap hit, bring his cap hit to 5 million and it’s still a bit of a risk for us to take but makes it easier to do. This, Cozens, Byram 1st seems a bit underwhelming for a Pettersson return, so much risk around both of those players coming back that this could easily blow up in our face.
 

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