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[BluesyShoes]

Would like to see a good amount of those shots going in, but that an encouraging start.

I expect we'll see him in the top six before too long. We severely lack one shot scoring players that can score from any angle.

I think finding the shots chances, getting them off quickly and on net, and with enough power and accuracy to create rebound chances is a really good sign. That's going to be what Tocchet is looking for to add to his system.

Goals are good too obviously, but if he's missing the net and wiring the puck around the boards and out of the zone on every other attempt, that's not a great formula.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Hoglander just fell to his knees crying happy tears in Ikea

I wonder if he’s moved sometime in the near future for upgrade on backend.

 

[JT Milker]

That's an insane overpayment.

Shocked he cleared.....what is Colorado doing?

I didn’t say that would be the entire trade, just that you could have both if you were so inclined.

 

[Jerry the great]

Another year on Aman's deal likely a factor in him clearing waiver.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Call Aman back up and send down Bain

 

[BluesyShoes]

Yes there was some rumblings about that last night on HNIC

A bit strange they would expose Amen right now. Has to be as good as gone.

With Joshua coming back it made the most sense to just send down Bains and use his waiver eligibility.
It's great seeing Lekkerimaki fire 6 shots a game and Raty get going with a 3 pt night but keeping our depth and having some patience seems like prudence No?

Given how fastidious Allvin has shown to be, I'd imagine they offered Aman on the market before sending him down if they thought there was a real chance they were going to lose him. They aren't really the type to lose a guy with value for nothing.

I imagine they knew there isn't much interest for him at this moment in time, but it also shows they were probably okay with losing him. Leads me to think this is a longer term move informed in part by Raty's success, but I think it is more so that Allvin is getting more real about adding center depth via trade. I'm thinking that in their minds they have an additional center to work with in the big picture for the season, they just haven't acquired one yet.

 

[sting101]

I didn’t say that would be the entire trade, just that you could have both if you were so inclined.

Fair enough.....i did propose 40 and Hoglander for Cozens Byram and Kulich.

Being completely honest i wouldn't trade Pettersson unless he wants out at this stage or at least without knowing the full extent of his issues.

On the flip side to that im a firm believer that all 3 players i proposed coming back are just scraping their potentials right now too on a team that still has bad leadership. Would love to poach 1 or all 3

Kulich has PP1 potential with his shot and is a responsible player once he figures the NHL game out.
Byram and Cozens are gonna be great players in this league with some maturity and the right environment. At 23 both are just rounding into their primes.

Cozens like EP40 is in a funk with confidence. Byram will probably be under appreciated until he becomes a little better defensively without being a PPQB.

Still could be buying low potentially but considering their desire for a top6 F or a #1 star forward i doubt without 40 involved we dont really have much to bargain with

 

[Blue and Green]

I think that Raty up, Bains down should be the next move. Raty's straight-line skating is still a real issue but nonetheless he's at least as good as Bains already, is almost two years younger and plays centre. Finding out what Raty can/can't do might play into what they do for acquisitions later in the season.

 

[David71]

I wonder if he’s moved sometime in the near future for upgrade on backend.

maybe in a few months. on a good contract too

 

[David71]

surprised aman didnt get claimed.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Wonder what the lines will look like when Joshua returns, Canucks should trade Sprong for a better fit if he’s not going to be in the lineup when Joshua returns.


?-Miller-Boeser
DeBrusk-Pettersson-Garland
Joshua-Suter-Hoglander
Heinen-Blueger-Sherwood

Or

Suter-Miller-Boeser
DeBrusk-Pettersson-Garland
Joshua-Blueger-Heinen
Hoglander-Aman/Raty-Sherwood

Lots of possibilities..

 

[David71]

what would it take for van to aquire david jireick? young rhd not being played much in cbj.

 

[wonton15]

Wonder what the lines will look like when Joshua returns, Canucks should trade Sprong for a better fit if he’s not going to be in the lineup when Joshua returns.


?-Miller-Boeser
DeBrusk-Pettersson-Garland
Joshua-Suter-Hoglander
Heinen-Blueger-Sherwood

Or

Suter-Miller-Boeser
DeBrusk-Pettersson-Garland
Joshua-Blueger-Heinen
Hoglander-Aman/Raty-Sherwood

Lots of possibilities..

I think Rick will start Joshua on the 4th line then literally move him up one by one to eventually get to what I think Rick will do:

DeBrusk Miller Boeser
Joshua Pettersson Garland
Heinen Blueger Sherwood
Hoglander Suter Sprong

Though I think a longer term play would be:
Suter Miller Boeser
DeBrusk Pettersson Hoglander
Joshua Blueger Garland
Heinen X Sherwood

This makes the most sense to me with 4 tried and tested lines (other than Pettersson, lol - but he does jive with Hog) that can provide balance and consistent forecheck.

 

[JT Milker]

DeBrusk Miller Boeser
Joshua Pettersson Garland
Heinen Blueger Sherwood
Hoglander Suter Sprong/Bains

This seems ideal.

 

[dez]

Debrusk Miller Boeser
Joshua Suter Garland
Heinen Blueger Sherwood
Hoglander Pettersson Sprong

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I think that Raty up, Bains down should be the next move. Raty's straight-line skating is still a real issue but nonetheless he's at least as good as Bains already, is almost two years younger and plays centre. Finding out what Raty can/can't do might play into what they do for acquisitions later in the season.

Bains is a needle mover in this market. Local kid who rose the ranks and is very popular in the South Asian community. It would be unwise to send him down for a lateral move. Just keep him in a 4th line role since he provides some energy.

 

[Blue and Green]

Bains is a needle mover in this market. Local kid who rose the ranks and is very popular in the South Asian community. It would be unwise to send him down for a lateral move. Just keep him in a 4th line role since he provides some energy.

I don't see it as a totally lateral move. Need some centre depth on the roster, plus one guy might have 3C upside versus 4LW upside for the other. "Local longshot makes NHL" is a nice story for a few games but after that it's about who is better.

 

[Jay26]

I know I'm beating a dead horse but this was clear in the playoffs last year and it has continued this season. People talk about the defense but I don't trust this offense, even with all the talent.

I don't question the talent, mind you. It's the way they play.

 

[TruGr1t]

Dhaliwal said both Raty and Lekkerimäki may get call-ups soon. Raty I get, with Aman down and Suter possibly at wing you absolutely need another centre. You'll still probably have to send Bains down to bring Joshua back, so I'm not sure how Lekkerimäki fits into the picture. Unless something else is going on.

It seems like an either/or for Raty/Lekkerimäki for me. Either you bring Lekkerimäki and switch Suter back to centre, or bring Raty up and leave Suter on Pettersson's wing until Joshua is back.

Bains is auto-demoted when Joshua returns either way. Unless they have a Hoglander trade in the making, which would surprise me ... I think management likes Hoglander a whole lot more than the coaches.

You end up with something of the following eventually:

DeBrusk-Miller-Boeser
Joshua-Pettersson-Garland
Heinen-Blueger-Sherwood
Hoglander-Raty-Sprong

OR

DeBrusk-Miller-Boeser
Lekkerimäki-Pettersson-Garland
Joshua-Blueger-Sherwood
Heinen-Suter-Sprong

I'm still surprised they waived Aman (though he cleared), due to the lack of centres. Either he or Raty should be 13F.

 

[VanJack]

That's an insane overpayment.

Shocked he cleared.....what is Colorado doing?

Not really shocked that Aman cleared......it was that second year on his current contract.

If he was on a one-year contract at the league minimum, he'd have probably been claimed for sure. But teams considering picking up a guy on waivers, will always avoid a player with an extra year on his deal.

 

[Vector]

Dhaliwal said both Raty and Lekkerimäki may get call-ups soon. Raty I get, with Aman down and Suter possibly at wing you absolutely need another centre. You'll still probably have to send Bains down to bring Joshua back, so I'm not sure how Lekkerimäki fits into the picture. Unless something else is going on.

It seems like an either/or for Raty/Lekkerimäki for me. Either you bring Lekkerimäki and switch Suter back to centre, or bring Raty up and leave Suter on Pettersson's wing until Joshua is back.

Bains is auto-demoted when Joshua returns either way. Unless they have a Hoglander trade in the making, which would surprise me ... I think management likes Hoglander a whole lot more than the coaches.

You end up with something of the following eventually:

DeBrusk-Miller-Boeser
Joshua-Pettersson-Garland
Heinen-Blueger-Sherwood
Hoglander-Raty-Sprong

OR

DeBrusk-Miller-Boeser
Lekkerimäki-Pettersson-Garland
Joshua-Blueger-Sherwood
Heinen-Suter-Sprong

I'm still surprised they waived Aman (though he cleared), due to the lack of centres. Either he or Raty should be 13F.

Waiving Aman cleared a spot to activate Joshua. They can send Bains down and bring one of Raty or Lekkerimaki up. I don’t think they’ll call-up Lekkerimaki unless Joshua’s return doesn’t facilitate an offensive turnaround.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

surprised aman didnt get claimed.

You and me both, but I’ll take it. He should be an impact player for Abbotsford, and/or a useful callup if we run into injuries. Can’t ever have enough depth.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

I know I'm beating a dead horse but this was clear in the playoffs last year and it has continued this season. People talk about the defense but I don't trust this offense, even with all the talent.

I don't question the talent, mind you. It's the way they play.

This might be controversial, but here goes: this is 100% on the coaching staff. I don't think Tocchet is anything more than a mid-level coach - he can do well when a team is governing themselves, or when he has roster that collectively plays exactly how he wants them to play.

Fact is, he is not a good match for some of our more skilled players and he is forcing them to move away from everything that has made them successful professionals in this league. A quality coach should be getting the most out of players to make them the best versions of themselves - not just Mini Tocchets hitting everything that moves and grinding teams into the ice. There is zero reason this team should be struggling to produce at the level they are currently showcasing with the amount of talent on this roster.

I think the Jack Adams went to Rick's head a bit and he came into camp thinking he knew best across the board. I seriously think Allvin and Rutherford need to consider a coaching change if we see a solid coach sent packing in the first quarter of the season if a team is having a poor start. The hot 1st half last year had everyone fooled - it wasn't anything Rick did. It was that every star player had figured out how to work together and play to each other's strengths.

 

[Nuckles]

I know I'm beating a dead horse but this was clear in the playoffs last year and it has continued this season. People talk about the defense but I don't trust this offense, even with all the talent.

I don't question the talent, mind you. It's the way they play.

Yeah it definitely feels like I'm watching the early-mid 2000s Minnesota Wild teams

 

[Baby Pettersson]

I'm happy sexy Aman cleared.