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Not surprised based on Tocchet's comments yesterday.

He is an NHL player in the right situation but it was never going to be here under this coaching staff.
 
Assume I was in a coma, what happened between 9 and 40 to cause these trade talks? Was there actually anything, or is it all just speculation?
1. 9 and 40 were never best friends
2. Canucks D gets decimated
3. The team struggles
4. Media pounces on it, blaming the struggles on the supposed rift
5. The org sucks at PR allowing the media run rampant
 
1. 9 and 40 were never best friends
2. Canucks D gets decimated
3. The team struggles
4. Media pounces on it, blaming the struggles on the supposed rift
5. The org sucks at PR allowing the media run rampant
6. Players, coaches, and GM have also all more-or-less directly said it's a problem.
 
Unless it's rental for rental that they think they can re-sign.

Unless Boeser says he doesn't want to sign, it'd be extremely foolish to trade him for a rental in the hopes of convincing a player who has no history with the team or management to stay instead.

In that scenario, I'd rather recoup actual assets than just another "maybe".


While I'm not surprised, I am a little annoyed. Brannstrom definitely has warts that he could work on in the AHL, if he passes through, but the leash Tocchet and/or Foote give Juulsen, Forbort and Desharnais is ridiculous.
 
Not surprised based on Tocchet's comments yesterday.

He is an NHL player in the right situation but it was never going to be here under this coaching staff.
Bold of Tocchet to throw away an NHL defenseman with this roster

Hes clearly better than 3 of the others at the bottom of the lineup, Tocchet should be able to get something out of him instead of allowing Juulsen and Desharnais to be trash
 
i don't like tocchet much and think his lineup decisions are generally terrible but brannstrom isn't anything. there's zero reason to be upset about him not playing or even going on waivers

If anything, now is a decent time to try sneaking him through, what with Smith also on waivers and the more experienced player. I doubt Brannstrom becomes anything noteworthy, but if he does, it'll be in actual games played in the AHL not getting overwhelmed here.

Yes, Forbort sucks too, but he kills penalties and can play defense.
 
i don't like tocchet much and think his lineup decisions are generally terrible but brannstrom isn't anything. there's zero reason to be upset about him not playing or even going on waivers
Think the frustration is he can play and actually move the puck.

He was found money and doing well when he first came here when given the opportunity.

But Tocchet likes his tree trunk dmen who can’t pass so it is what it is.
 
Think the frustration is he can play and actually move the puck.

He was found money and doing well when he first came here when given the opportunity.

But Tocchet likes his tree trunk dmen who can’t pass so it is what it is.
I think he was likely a player they were happier to have in the lineup when Hronek was present and the D group was more stable as a result.

Might see him back up when the team feels the group they have wins the trade-off of having his strong and weak attributes in the lineup.
 
Think the frustration is he can play and actually move the puck.

He was found money and doing well when he first came here when given the opportunity.

But Tocchet likes his tree trunk dmen who can’t pass so it is what it is.

i think people have rose colored glasses when it comes to him. he looks competent because when it comes to moving the puck he's everything that forbort/desharnais/juulsen/soucy/myers aren't. but he's still not an nhl player. he can't defend. his skating is poor. he's easily pressured into mistakes. he's basically the defenseman version of sprong where he only has one skill
 
i think people have rose colored glasses when it comes to him. he looks competent because when it comes to moving the puck he's everything that forbort/desharnais/juulsen/soucy/myers aren't. but he's still not an nhl player. he can't defend. his skating is poor. he's easily pressured into mistakes. he's basically the defenseman version of sprong where he only has one skill
So he’s more competent than 5 of our 6 current NHL dmen but should be put on waivers?

Good lord.
 
So he’s more competent than 5 of our 6 current NHL dmen but should be put on waivers?

Good lord.
he had three or four games where he was good. The rest of the time he was not. He is slow, butter soft, has no special teams utility and cannot defend in zone when the other team is cycling. They obviously see no value in feeding him development minutes (i agree) so might as well move him along. I'd rather they feed those development minutes to Briesbois, Wolanin or even Kudryavetsev.
 
Tocchet and Foote have always preferred bigger and more physical guys on the backend. It makes absolute sense given these guys played with or against the Stevens, Hatchers and Prongers back in the day.

Undersized guys will continue to have a hard time breaking through unless they are fully elite or physical. It was the same case in Arizona with him...
 
I don't even know what to say.



Can anyone honestly say Juulsen is better?
Juulsen has PK utility and with Hronek out that's important. he also throws his body into the line of fire at every opportunity, is very physical and willingly takes hits to try and make plays. With like half as many NHL games played, they may feel that there is at least a chance he continues to develop. There is also a cost savings.
 
Is this not Brisebois taking Brannstrom's depth position, or did I miss something? Brisebois looks defensively capable, unlike Brannstrom, who has been Juulsen-level ass for a while now.

-We need Hronek back, and carrying the 2 pairing.
-We need Willander signed.
-We really need management to step in and take Juulsen away from Tocchet, enough is enough already. Tocc will die on Juulsen hill, if they let him.
 

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