GDT: Group B - May 8 - Finland (5) vs Germany (1)

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Well, I just think it's absurd. I'm sure back bench coaching is very rewarding but I just respect people who have the actual responsibility for actual results. And those are my measure, actual results.

There is two answers for that which could be right, yes and no both. In the other hand, also I am expecting that he is more professional than me, make no mistake about that. In the other hand, this board is where you can argue even with worse CV than the actual team coach. It is very much HypeBoards these days, but not completely.

I know only 1 way of saying Patrik and it is Patrik just as it's written. Paatrik is uknown to me at least.
 
I think it's pronounced like it's written: Patrik, so short vowels with slight stress on the first syllable - no Swedish extra emphasis like "pattrikk". (And obviously no English pronounciation of "phätrikh" with the soft "r" and aspirations.)

I've never heard a swede pronouncing it like Pattrikk.

It's always a looooong first a on Paaaaaatrik for swedes.
 
I've never heard a swede pronouncing it like Pattrikk.

It's always a looooong first a on Paaaaaatrik for swedes.

Maybe they say it Paaaaaaatrik. Doesn't sound familiar way at all tbh though.
 
A stupid question. How does Patrik Laine pronounce his first name? I know two finnish speaking Patriks... One Pronounces it is Paatrik, the other kinda like Pattrikk. If that makes any sense.

Like it's written. No long A's, just shortly Patrik. Or Hatrick ;)
 
The question was of course a plausible deniability whine about there still being no hätrik.
 
I think it should be clear that Laine plays PP with Granlund and Koivu. Heck, my PP units woudl be:

Koivu - Granlund - Barkov
Laine - Lindell
(Barkov front of the net, Koivu and Granny playmaking, Laine shooting, Lindell just being there.

Jokinen - Komarov - Aho
Hietanen - Pokka

I want Laine to play in both PP units and full 2 minutes.
 
I've never heard a swede pronouncing it like Pattrikk.

It's always a looooong first a on Paaaaaatrik for swedes.

Sure, I guess so - I have only heard his name been pronounced in finlandssvenska where it sounds like a somewhat energetic version of regular Finnish "Patrik", but anyhow no long vowels in the word.
 
I think it's pronounced like it's written: Patrik, so short vowels with slight stress on the first syllable - no Swedish extra emphasis like "pattrikk". (And obviously no English pronounciation of "phätrikh" with the soft "r" and aspirations.)

New nick name: Hat trick Patrik :).
 
There is really big reason why Jalonen is playing team like this. Game was like 4-1 for us. There is no reason before game seven to use our best offensive players so much. Keep their ice time like 15-18 mins max and they all whole game with fresh legs. We can change our bottom players later, but not our core. Wake up everyone. This only like 2 weeks rush.
 
There is really big reason why Jalonen is playing team like this. Game was like 4-1 for us. There is no reason before game seven to use our best offensive players so much. Keep their ice time like 15-18 mins max and they all whole game with fresh legs. We can change our bottom players later, but not our core. Wake up everyone. This only like 2 weeks rush.

I'm going to settle with this explanation but hoping that messing up our 5 on 5 play today doesn't "stick".
 
I think it's pronounced like it's written: Patrik, so short vowels with slight stress on the first syllable - no Swedish extra emphasis like "pattrikk". (And obviously no English pronounciation of "phätrikh" with the soft "r" and aspirations.)

It's Paddy...we all know the Beatles song?
"Paddy La(i)ne is in my ears and in my eyes..."
 
Is anything going to happen to Pihlstom? I really didn't like that play at all and I don't blame Holzer for losing his cool.

I fail to see why Pihlström was given anything else than a minor for interference. Pihlström didn't attempt to cross-check Holzer to his face, he went for the unnecessary hit and then Holzer stumbled before Pihlström made the contact. The play didn't look dangerous and Pihlström didn't have much speed at the time of the contact. You can watch the video yourself.



In an ideal world that play would have been two minutes for holding to Holzer and that would have been the end of it. However, it wasn't an Pihlström lost his cool and went for the unnecessary hit, since Holzer didn't have the puck. That's two minutes for interference. Then Holzer loses his cool totally and is about to start throwing punches while Pihlström is probably thinking, "Well, that escalated quickly". Pihlström clearly had no intention to injure or harm Holzer and he didn't.

How on earth did Pihlström get two minutes for roughing and two minutes for cross-checking is beyond me. There was no cross-check and there was no roughing either. Only an unnecessary hit, for which the proper call would have been two minutes for interference.
 
I fail to see why Pihlström was given anything else than a minor for interference. Pihlström didn't attempt to cross-check Holzer to his face, he went for the unnecessary hit and then Holzer stumbled before Pihlström made the contact. The play didn't look dangerous and Pihlström didn't have much speed at the time of the contact. You can watch the video yourself.



In an ideal world that play would have been two minutes for holding to Holzer and that would have been the end of it. However, it wasn't an Pihlström lost his cool and went for the unnecessary hit, since Holzer didn't have the puck. That's two minutes for interference. Then Holzer loses his cool totally and is about to start throwing punches while Pihlström is probably thinking, "Well, that escalated quickly". Pihlström clearly had no intention to injure or harm Holzer and he didn't.

How on earth did Pihlström get two minutes for roughing and two minutes for cross-checking is beyond me. There was no cross-check and there was no roughing either. Only an unnecessary hit, for which the proper call would have been two minutes for interference.


If you honestly believe that Pihlström didn't attempt to cross check in the head then I have nothing to say to you.

Any news on Pihlström? Any supplementary action taken?
 
If you honestly believe that Pihlström didn't attempt to cross check in the head then I have nothing to say to you.

Any news on Pihlström? Any supplementary action taken?

You can't be serious :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Gonna have to read through this GDT now damn you :popcorn:


E: Lol Pihlström takes the brunt of the force with his hands when he sees Holzer is ball height. Should've given him a hug and a "thanks for not checking my head mate" pat on the back
 
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If you honestly believe that Pihlström didn't attempt to cross check in the head then I have nothing to say to you.

Any news on Pihlström? Any supplementary action taken?

:laugh::laugh:

Only suspension in that play would go the german for dropping the mits. Big no no in IIHF games.
 
I fail to see why Pihlström was given anything else than a minor for interference. Pihlström didn't attempt to cross-check Holzer to his face, he went for the unnecessary hit and then Holzer stumbled before Pihlström made the contact. The play didn't look dangerous and Pihlström didn't have much speed at the time of the contact. You can watch the video yourself.



In an ideal world that play would have been two minutes for holding to Holzer and that would have been the end of it. However, it wasn't an Pihlström lost his cool and went for the unnecessary hit, since Holzer didn't have the puck. That's two minutes for interference. Then Holzer loses his cool totally and is about to start throwing punches while Pihlström is probably thinking, "Well, that escalated quickly". Pihlström clearly had no intention to injure or harm Holzer and he didn't.

How on earth did Pihlström get two minutes for roughing and two minutes for cross-checking is beyond me. There was no cross-check and there was no roughing either. Only an unnecessary hit, for which the proper call would have been two minutes for interference.


Huh?
Yes, Pihlström was most definately trying to cross-check Holzer, in a big way at that. He took his stick with both hands and lifted it towards Holzer, there is no way you can lead a normal hit with your stick in front of your body. That was as clear cut a dirty action as it can get, it was nothing but a revenge play.

Holzer only "lost his cool" when Pihlström made his completely dirty and unwarranted move. That is blindingly obvious in the very video you posted. In fact, Holzer kept his cool when you consider what actually happened. He could have pummeled Pihlström for what he attempted, but he clearly held back once he realised that Pihlström turtled and wouldn't back up his acts.

Holzer should have gotten 2 minutes for taking down Pihlström, but Pihlström is very lucky that Holzer got out of his way when he attempted the cross-check, because if that thing lands as intended, Pihlström is out of the game. The way it worked out, it was merely an attempt, but even that is enough for a penalty. What happened afterwards wasn't all that relevant, Pihlström held down Holzer, Holzer didn't really punch him, at best that's two for both.

As the play turned out, it shouldn't have been a powerplay, it should have been either 2 for both or 2+2 for both. Whether things would have been different if the refs had called the penalty on Holzer (leading to no cross-check b Pihlström) or if Holzer hadn't evaded the cross-check (possible more than just 2 for Pihlström) is moot, as it didn't happen.
 
Holzer stumbles and his body is leaning forwards already when Pihlström starts his brainless rush. Holzer seems to struggle to keep his balance and his eyes are on the puck so his stance is not an intentional dodge - his body actually stays pretty much on the same height the whole time Pihlström rushes at him. It's impossible to say if Pihlström anticipated him raising his body upright in which case the rush was a clear attempt at injuring him. On the other hand it's possible - and in my opinion more probable - that Pihlström intentionally lifted his stick above his body in order to not hit him with it.

Watching the video in slow motion both explanations are possible and it's impossible to be sure without having the ability to read Pihlström's thoughts. Even if he intentionally lifted his stick above Holzer's body it was still a grossly reckless play in addition of the obvious interference - it just probably wasn't as malicious as it looks at first. The extra recklessness comes from the possibility that Holzer could have raised his body in which case Pihlström could have hit his head (or body/arm in a less bad case) with a cross-check even if he didn't intend it.
 

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