WJC: Group A and B Scenarios

[Scouter]

except its a 3 way tie, the Swiss are there too. So you include every match where 2 of Swiss/Czech/Denmark played in.

Maybe you shouldn't have embarrassed yourselves against the Swiss, and maybe you should have showed up against a team other then the team in the tournament that at the time never had a win in tournament history. I don't think a team with only 2 points really has a leg to stand on when it comes to tiebreakers. IIHF makes the tiebreakers, you don't like them, then how about winning so you don't need them.

Never mind though, we won't have to worry about tiebreakers when Russia wins tomorrow

I know it's a 3 way tie, but only 1 team won't qualify, so it should come down only to the bottom 2. The Danes aren't that bad. I am talking of course if the Czech's win in OT tomorrow, if they don't then fine. I just pointed out that they would have more wins than the Danes.

 

[Scouter]

How you fared against the teams you are tied with is like the most obvious tiebreaker ever. Lots of sports use it.

Oh we beat Russia, I guess than means we're better than the teams we couldn't succeed against

I suppose you think a team with 1 OT win, and 3 regulation losses should advance over a team with 4 OT losses as well then. Who cares about points, we have a win and wins matter dammit

No it's not, wins are the most obv. TB ever, not some silly select game mini tournament within the actual tournament, how dumb is that. Even then it's not being used properly, because each of the 3 teams has a win against the other, so they should and are all be tied, so then it has to go to overall regulation time wins, then overall OT wins, which the Czech's have more of than the Danes, so it's obvious to everyone with half a brain that the Czech's should advance and not the Danes even going by the IIHF's warped logic.

 

[Canada4Gold]

You're just trying to figure out a way to get the Czechs in lol. Only the bottom team misses the QF so you suggest the go by that h2h, hey look Swiss first, now we look at h2h between Denmark, Czech, oh wonderful luck, Czechs beat them. I'm sure you would have the same feeling if it were opposite

Why not just use the same tiebreaking standings that put Swiss 3rd, that Denmark straightout beat the Czechs in(3 to 2) to rank them 4th? Nope can't do that, that puts Czechs 5th.

The tiebreakers are what they are, they've been like this for a while. If you don't qualify because you lost on a tiebreaker then maybe you should blame ourself for not winning more games.

If the Czechs get in tomorrow then they get in because the deserved it. And good for them if they do. They know what they have to go. Go do it, or face relegation round. Whatever happens happens and is completely fair. There's no reason to complain at all. It's not like they're using most red in your flag as a tiebreaker or anything stupid, this is a very common tiebreaker, used lots in many sports, and was defined before the tournament began.

 

[Canada4Gold]

No it's not, wins are the most obv. TB ever, not some silly select game mini tournament within the actual tournament, how dumb is that. Even then it's not being used properly, because each of the 3 teams has a win against the other, so they should and are all be tied, so then it has to go to overall regulation time wins, then overall OT wins, which the Czech's have more of than the Danes, so it's obvious to everyone with half a brain that the Czech's should advance and not the Danes even going by the IIHF's warped logic.

But OT, and regulation wins are not equal, and you're complately ignoring the OT/SO loss point because it doesn't work in your favour, nice try. Swiss have 1 win and a point otherwise. Danes have 1 win and a point otherwise. Czechs have 1 win. Oh look, your last, thanks for playing.

 

[Canada4Gold]

So it appears the Swedes are going to win in regulation. That guarentees the Russians at least 3. Denmark wraps up a QF spot.

Czechs will need a win in regulation, and that would put them 2nd. Anything else they are 5th.

Swiss interestingly enough will be hoping for a Czech loss, but if it gets to overtime they'll be hoping for a Czech win. Czech OT win puts them 3rd, Czech loss puts them 4th. Czech regulation win puts them 3rd.

Russia is 2nd if they get a point or more

Denmark will be 3rd if the Czechs lose, 4th if the Czechs win.

 

[Scouter]

No I am not just stating a case for the Czech's, I'm supporting fair sportsmanship, because look, the Swiss won in regulation, yet they might play for relegation, so your whole argument for teams with regulation wins goes out the window, but hey, you clearly can't get that these events are supposed to be about winning, so I'm just wasting my breath.

 

[MNNumbers]

No I am not just stating a case for the Czech's, I'm supporting fair sportsmanship, because look, the Swiss won in regulation, yet they might play for relegation, so your whole argument for teams with regulation wins goes out the window, but hey, you clearly can't get that these events are supposed to be about winning, so I'm just wasting my breath.

I think you should direct your comments to the IIHF. If these events were about winning only, they would not have a points difference between winning in regulation and winning in overtime.

 

[sjci]

So as it stands right now:

Canada---Denmark->Czech
US---Russia-->Sweden

If so, that's **** luck

 

[Bigleaf]

So as it stands right now:

Canada---Denmark->Czech
US---Russia-->Sweden

If so, that's **** luck

It's a tougher road to the finals for the US team but I don't see either Russia or Sweden beating them. I see a rematch with Canada for the Gold.