Prospect Info: Grand Rapids Griffins Discussion

[RRhoads]

Ed got turned inside out on that second Wild goal

 

[Hockey Know it all]

The bolded part of the post you quoted is 100% true and will vary immensely from person to person.

Your sample size of 1 (yourself) proves nothing otherwise.

It’s 100% not true.

There’s no such thing as someone who “doesn’t have the frame to build muscle and put on weight”.

It’s all based on metabolism. While, yes some people have a “hard” time gaining weight, they can definitely still gain solid weight and muscle. Again, it’s about eating more.

Truthfully and honestly, it’s not a hard concept. To put on more mass, you just have to eat more, train hard, recover and repeat.

There are so many studies, doctors, fitness enthusiasts, personal trainers, nutritionists etc who would agree with me.

 

[roman star]

please launch figurski along with regner into the sun so we dont have to listen to them both constantly running their mouths

 

[izlez]

Some of y'all are telling on yourselves. He had world class help from multiple angles since he was drafted. The moment he committed to Denver he got a nutrition and workout plan. The minute he was drafted by Detroit he got more professional oversight. It's not like he got to Grand Rapids and they were like, hey eat healthy and workout, what have you been doing the past two and a half years..

And of course he had workout and nutritional support before that. Little Caesars has that. USNTDP has that. Teams in the USHL obviously have it. He went through all of these since he hit puberty.

I mean, there’s a difference between having a nutritionist and weight room to use as you’re able and being handed $800,000 and being told it’s dependent on devoting your life to eating that diet and using that weight room.

 

[norrisnick]

It’s 100% not true.

There’s no such thing as someone who “doesn’t have the frame to build muscle and put on weight”.

It’s all based on metabolism. While, yes some people have a “hard” time gaining weight, they can definitely still gain solid weight and muscle. Again, it’s about eating more.

Truthfully and honestly, it’s not a hard concept. To put on more mass, you just have to eat more, train hard, recover and repeat.

There are so many studies, doctors, fitness enthusiasts, personal trainers, nutritionists etc who would agree with me.

That's like saying anyone could be an NHLer with enough work put in. Just work harder, it's obviously possible...

 

[RedHawkDown]

That's like saying anyone could be an NHLer with enough work put in. Just work harder, it's obviously possible...

It is not, at all,like saying that …tf?

If you eat more calories than you burn you will gain weight. For some people it’s harder to do so because of their metabolism, genetic factors, etc but to claim that some people literally can’t gain weight is factually absurd.

 

[lhsgolf19]

Simon beats Wallstedt with 5 seconds left in OT... 3-2 Win for the Griffs... 26 Saves for Cossa

 

[norrisnick]

Big Ed

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

It’s 100% not true.

There’s no such thing as someone who “doesn’t have the frame to build muscle and put on weight”.

It’s all based on metabolism. While, yes some people have a “hard” time gaining weight, they can definitely still gain solid weight and muscle. Again, it’s about eating more.

Truthfully and honestly, it’s not a hard concept. To put on more mass, you just have to eat more, train hard, recover and repeat.

There are so many studies, doctors, fitness enthusiasts, personal trainers, nutritionists etc who would agree with me.

I think you are over thinking this. Elmer Soderblom has the frame to to more easily add more weight than Mazur. Mazur doesn't have the ideal frame to easily add the weight we would ideally have him play at (200 lbs). Of course he could just eat and eat and eat and get that weight, but that's not what we want. Physiological things like wider hips, broader shoulders, longer bones all lead to being able to add more weight than someone else. Then there's the metabolic side of things.

 

[lhsgolf19]

 

[HoweFan]

Great game Griffs! I’m calling the battle of the goalies a draw, which is just fine.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

Griffins up to 5th in the west now

 

[Frk It]

It’s 100% not true.

There’s no such thing as someone who “doesn’t have the frame to build muscle and put on weight”.

It’s all based on metabolism. While, yes some people have a “hard” time gaining weight, they can definitely still gain solid weight and muscle. Again, it’s about eating more.

Truthfully and honestly, it’s not a hard concept. To put on more mass, you just have to eat more, train hard, recover and repeat.

There are so many studies, doctors, fitness enthusiasts, personal trainers, nutritionists etc who would agree with me.

You cannot just keep eating and putting on muscle forever and ever.

Some people who are 5’10 can get to 200 lbs and be lean. Some people who are 5’10 would max out at 175 lbs lean. Each person has a different ability to gain muscle depending on their genetics, frame, etc. Some people have more advantageous frames to put on weight than others. Sometimes noticeably so.

I have no idea why you are denying these things.

Why do you think Landon Ferraro didn’t make it as a hockey player? It was these very things.

I think you are over thinking this. Elmer Soderblom has the frame to to more easily add more weight than Mazur. Mazur doesn't have the ideal frame to easily add the weight we would ideally have him play at (200 lbs). Of course he could just eat and eat and eat and get that weight, but that's not what we want. Physiological things like wider hips, broader shoulders, longer bones all lead to being able to add more weight than someone else. Then there's the metabolic side of things.

This.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Poor guy.

 

[OldnotDeadWings]

A relatively late-in-life growth spurt -- he was reportedly 5-9, 142 at 16yo, the age most boys stop getting taller -- puts Mazur into a smaller subset of athletes who face different training challenges than their much larger group of peers and often on an atypical path to physical maturity. Bone growth still taking place makes muscular development much more complicated and also take longer. Coordination suffers. Dietary needs change. Specific strength programs are delayed until the body frame is more established. I think it's quite possible that Mazur is really only three years into a strength/muscle mass acquisition process that only got serious at Cenver, rather than what more "normal" athletes might have started in Junior hockey or as Sophmores/Juniors in HS and working out with pro trainers in summer.

We know Mazur is working on it and that he has said he is frustrated with what he considers slow progress. It may not actually be slow, just a frustratingly normal process for his atypical male group. He is undoubtedly doing everything he has been told to do by professional trainers, including caloric intake and overall diet, sleep, balanced physical training so that one area of development doesn't impinge on another. He's not trying to become a body builder, he's trying to be a stronger hockey athlete.

It's an issue worth keeping in mind but too soon to think his NHL career will be compromised by lack of strength. A 6-0, 180-pound young NHL winger is hardly unheard of, especially if he can score 50-plus points a season. Everybody loves his compete level and physicality, but don't forget he put up a lot of points the previous three seasons in the USHL and Denver, did not look out of place at all at the WJC, (five goals in five games) or at the World Championships, and has 30 points in his first 48 AHL games, a better production rate than Mantha, AA and Bertuzzi in their first full AHL seasons.

 

[Murmansk16A]

Kasper feeling it tonight. Already has a goal and almost pulled off the Michigan in the 2nd.

I think Marco may have the record for most Michigan's attempted without scoring one.

 

[1878rgw]

The 2nd Iowa goal is on Ed.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

I still like Marco Kasper #teamkasper

 

[raymond23]

Bertuzzi 3.0 scores

 

[Filppula]

Bertuzzi 3.0 scores

Another assist for Tuomisto!

Goal Soderblom! He’s finally started to come alive lately.

 

[raymond23]

What a shift from the 4th line (Soder, Ammo, Hanas)

wow this team is loaded

 

[Filppula]

What a shift from the 4th line (Soder, Ammo, Hanas)

wow this team is loaded

Most (legitimate) prospect stacked team they’ve had in years. Exciting.

Lombardi an assist, 6 points in 11 games. Doesn’t sound like much but if he can get going, watch out. Him and Elmer seem to be clicking lately.

 

[schuelma24]

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Ah Hutch is in tonight.

 

[RRhoads]

I think AlJo makes Maatta expendable.