GDT: Gold Medal Game - February 25 - Russia vs Germany
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Firsov99
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I won't lie. Was ready to tear up my passport when we fell behind 2-3. Even my patriotism has its limits.
Come on you got to give to us, we fought great. Show some respect mate, just like we did.
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That's the frustrating thing. It was such an easy mistake to avoid. Cycle a bit, play passes for all I care go behind your own goal and wait. But that unenthusiastic dump in? I honestly don't mind losing to Russia in OT. It's how they lost it.
Well that was a gold medal almost thrown away and with the PP in the third for Germany a goal up I was ready to give up and curse Znarok and his staff. I curse him still.He needs to go ASAP.
I wrote before the game about hard work, working as a unit, maintaining a crease presence and winning the puck on the boards. Pretty decent first period. Eventually the pressure told despite Germany's best efforts. But they just took their foot off the pedal and barely created anything thereafter. A bunch of individuals rescued again by two moments of opportunistic brilliance from a deadly sniper. Outworked by the German players in every respect. Hats off to Gusev, Kaprizov, Telegin and Datsyuk and Gavrikov and Voinov. The rest of the team were abysmal.
Why Russia is not producing decent defenceman was shown. Zub and Kiselevich are awful. Kosechkin should have been pulled after his awful mistake for Sorokin or Shestyorkin and went to pieces thereafter. A lack of concentration celebrating after the second as if it's the winner with six minutes to go coughing up the puck behind the net and then an awful change allowing the shooter from the point to walk in.
A fortunate win, far from convincing. Mental fragility is still there, there is a lack of cohesion again, a lack of defencemen past the first unit of any quality. This team should look to their forebears where winning was a given and done with hard work for many many years. Huge amount of things still wrong in Russian hockey which need to be rectified. Winning the gold should not allow these to be ignored at and rectified as soon as possible. Not to mention the womens game which also needs a lot of working on.
Well done to the German team. Played with great heart, no little skill and plenty of courage and maybe this pushes ice not field hockey there to the front of the public consciousness. Sturm is a far superior coach to Znarok as well. Anyway I played this at the medal ceremony with the television muted....
I wrote before the game about hard work, working as a unit, maintaining a crease presence and winning the puck on the boards. Pretty decent first period. Eventually the pressure told despite Germany's best efforts. But they just took their foot off the pedal and barely created anything thereafter. A bunch of individuals rescued again by two moments of opportunistic brilliance from a deadly sniper. Outworked by the German players in every respect. Hats off to Gusev, Kaprizov, Telegin and Datsyuk and Gavrikov and Voinov. The rest of the team were abysmal.
Why Russia is not producing decent defenceman was shown. Zub and Kiselevich are awful. Kosechkin should have been pulled after his awful mistake for Sorokin or Shestyorkin and went to pieces thereafter. A lack of concentration celebrating after the second as if it's the winner with six minutes to go coughing up the puck behind the net and then an awful change allowing the shooter from the point to walk in.
A fortunate win, far from convincing. Mental fragility is still there, there is a lack of cohesion again, a lack of defencemen past the first unit of any quality. This team should look to their forebears where winning was a given and done with hard work for many many years. Huge amount of things still wrong in Russian hockey which need to be rectified. Winning the gold should not allow these to be ignored at and rectified as soon as possible. Not to mention the womens game which also needs a lot of working on.
Well done to the German team. Played with great heart, no little skill and plenty of courage and maybe this pushes ice not field hockey there to the front of the public consciousness. Sturm is a far superior coach to Znarok as well. Anyway I played this at the medal ceremony with the television muted....
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They certainly are. Magnificent peoples. Hope Slovakian hockey is on the way back like the Czechs. My second favourite teams.
He won the puck several times, played neat passes but was isolated for much of the time by team mates who miscontrolled his passes or were not on his level of thinking. Pavel would make it into the great Russian teams of the past but he's the only one of the recent generations that would alongside Malkin and perhaps Ovechkin. Shows how far Russian hockey has declined.
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I must ask why isn't Gusev in NHL and is Tampa Bay still eligible for his draft rights?
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I don't know what the other poster was watching, Datsyuk was very important in this match, his actions led to several of the goals.
Everyone criticizing Znarok.. come on guys.. they won! They won despite the immense pressure, despite Germany beating everyone else in their way, they still prevailed. No matter how good your team might be, it's never easy.. Germany was clearly a HOT team, this was never going to be a simple game when you have a team with so much momentum and another team with tremendous pressure! I'm sure experts would agree.
Znarok is a decent tactician and man manager, but most importantly he has that Russian "f*** off" character that few other Russian coaches have. He's a real "Muzhik" who will lead a team and do whatever it takes to the last second as we saw today - and any Russian man will respect that.
Znarok is a decent tactician and man manager, but most importantly he has that Russian "f*** off" character that few other Russian coaches have. He's a real "Muzhik" who will lead a team and do whatever it takes to the last second as we saw today - and any Russian man will respect that.
I saw posters saying that only a handful of Russian guys were good. I disagree, I think they all did their job really well. Those who were counted on to score did, and those who were supposed to plow the ice did it well.
There were mistakes for sure, but they are all human and consider the amount of pressure it's very understandable.
There were mistakes for sure, but they are all human and consider the amount of pressure it's very understandable.
Well done to the German team. Played with great heart, no little skill and plenty of courage and maybe this pushes ice not field hockey there to the front of the public consciousness. Sturm is a far superior coach to Znarok as well. Anyway I played this at the medal ceremony with the television muted....
OAR doesn't have national anthem. I demand that you play the Olympic hymn!
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Must be the best last 7 minutes + OT of an Olympic Final?
I mean, in general there are many good final minutes of a few Olympic Finals.
Sweden-Canada in 94 (goal within the last few minutes, SO win)
Canada-US 2002 (as a game in total)
Canada-US in 2010 (goal within the last minutes, OT win)
I mean, in general there are many good final minutes of a few Olympic Finals.
Sweden-Canada in 94 (goal within the last few minutes, SO win)
Canada-US 2002 (as a game in total)
Canada-US in 2010 (goal within the last minutes, OT win)
I watched all the German games and actually I think that Russia was playing the weakest of the three tbh.
The Swedes outshot us 12:0 in the first couple of minutes before we got a powerplay and converted it with Ehrhoffs shot from the blue line. The Germans did what they could, but they had to convert the few chances they had and then be relying on aus den Birken.
The Canadians outshot us 31 to 15 I think. It was solid goaltending and converting like every chance we got.
Other then that the Canadians pushed us into our own zone for most of the time.
Here it was actually a rather open game. The German team really took it to OAR. I don't know the stats but the amount of shots for Germany was sure easily in the 20es. Like25+ maybe.
The Russian team won and that is all that matters in the end, but they really didn't show anything to impress me much
The Swedes outshot us 12:0 in the first couple of minutes before we got a powerplay and converted it with Ehrhoffs shot from the blue line. The Germans did what they could, but they had to convert the few chances they had and then be relying on aus den Birken.
The Canadians outshot us 31 to 15 I think. It was solid goaltending and converting like every chance we got.
Other then that the Canadians pushed us into our own zone for most of the time.
Here it was actually a rather open game. The German team really took it to OAR. I don't know the stats but the amount of shots for Germany was sure easily in the 20es. Like25+ maybe.
The Russian team won and that is all that matters in the end, but they really didn't show anything to impress me much
Another amazing thing to see is the legacy of generations. Gusev and Kaprizov playing by side of Datsyuk and Kovalchuk and abosrbing their wisdom and glimpse of soviet hockey. Now they will carry the future of Russian hockey and it's amazing to see them capture this element.
Dorogoi dlinnoyu composed by Boris Fomin the twenties when cafe music was popular ie Shostakovich's Jazz Suites (not at all related to jazz) before being suppressed as being formalist in the thirties. resuscitated during the Great Patriotic War then suppressed again in 1948. Poor Fomin died unrecognized for the most part of TB around that time.
It was a final game and just reading the interviews, the players admitted they played overly cautious with a lot to lose piled on by tons of pressure. Finals are a different beast when so much is on the line, it's impossible to expect an all star kind of game with a lot of shots and thoughtless rushes.
They did their best, they just didn't have enough skill... At least, half the team are glorious 4th liners by the NHL standarts. We could get better players, but Znaroks prefered grinders over skill, he always does.
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