Gold dream over for sweden - both naslund and Forsberg to withdraw soon?

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Will Holma skate with Forsberg and Zetterberg???

I don't know what to feel about that. Holma isn't a sniper and neither is Zetterberg. But Holma could really trigger Forsberg and it would be nice to see thoose two bring some norrländsk "jävlar anamna" down low! :)
 
Ola said:
Will Holma skate with Forsberg and Zetterberg???

I don't know what to feel about that. Holma isn't a sniper and neither is Zetterberg. But Holma could really trigger Forsberg and it would be nice to see thoose two bring some norrländsk "jävlar anamna" down low! :)

I agree. That's a bad idea.

I'd like to see Forsberg centering Modin and Holmström, with Zetterberg on Sundin's left wing.

Another interesting option would be to reunite the 1996 World Cup line of Holmström Forsberg and Alfredsson, with Sundin centering Zetterberg and Modin.
 
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Ola said:
Will Holma skate with Forsberg and Zetterberg???

I don't know what to feel about that. Holma isn't a sniper and neither is Zetterberg. But Holma could really trigger Forsberg and it would be nice to see thoose two bring some norrländsk "jävlar anamna" down low! :)


I dunno, Zetterberg looks like a sniper to me.
 
Force said:
i meant that; sorry i didn't make it clear... my point is: if it were not an olympic season, he propably would not have returned to the NHL at all.

So basically, the only reason Peter signed a two year contract with the Flyers is because he wanted to play in the Olympics?

Hmmmmmm, now that explains everything...
 
Leo Naphta said:
I agree. That's a bad idea.

I'd like to see Forsberg centering Modin and Holmström, with Zetterberg on Sundin's left wing.

Another interesting option would be to reunite the 1996 World Cup line of Holmström Forsberg and Alfredsson, with Sundin centering Zetterberg and Modin.

Leo I love that line! :) Had not thought of that. Alfredsson-Foppa-Holma. Too bad that BÃ…G doesn't "see Forsberg as a center".
 
Remy said:
So basically, the only reason Peter signed a two year contract with the Flyers is because he wanted to play in the Olympics?

Hmmmmmm, now that explains everything...

Look Forsberg will be healty for the PO's in the SC no matter what. If I where Clarke I wouldn't want a player on my team who wouldn't be there FOR HIS NATION!
 
The minimal respect I had for Näslund is gone, playing with the Canucks seems to be okey, he´s only rested his groin injury for one game, but he cant make an effort to aid the country that gave him the opportunity to become a multimillionaire hockeyplayer for 6-7 games.

We should deport his selfish overpaid *** a.s.a.p


A positive sidenote, Homer will make a better addition anyway.


The only thing we need now, is to find a way to get Kronwall to replace Tjärnqvist.
 
Ola said:
Look Forsberg will be healty for the PO's in the SC no matter what. If I where Clarke I wouldn't want a player on my team who wouldn't be there FOR HIS NATION!

Now now, I am not questioning Pete's desire to represent his country in the Olympics. I am fully aware of his commitment to Sweden. All I was questioning was the reason Force gave for Pete's return to the NHL. I myself tend to believe that it was a bit more than just a desire to represent his country in the Olympics. He could have just as well retired from the NHL and stayed with Modo and still been asked by his country to participate in the Olympics. I don't think that there is some underlying rule that states you can only represent your county in the Olympics if you are a current player in the NHL.
 
Jovanovski = Norris said:
Considering Johnsson, Norstrom, Kronvall, Forsberg and Naslund all have dropped out or may drop out, guys like Ragnarsson have declined, and Tallinder, Huselius, Andreas are suspended, what are Sweden's chances?

Zetterberg - Sundin - Alfredsson
Sedin - Sedin - Modin
Holmstrom - Nylander - Ekman
Axelsson - Jonsson - Nilsson

Lidstrom - Jonsson
Tarnstrom - Ohlund
Tjarnqvist - Wallin

Lundqvist
Tellqvist

Why did you eliminate players that are already on the team and arn't injured?? And I doubt Wallin would get picked. Nilsson?
 
and I was right. The first one pulls out. I wonder when Forsberg will announce it. :shakehead
 
Starshollow said:
The minimal respect I had for Näslund is gone, playing with the Canucks seems to be okey, he´s only rested his groin injury for one game, but he cant make an effort to aid the country that gave him the opportunity to become a multimillionaire hockeyplayer for 6-7 games.

We should deport his selfish overpaid *** a.s.a.p

OR you could look at it this way: Näslund realizes that he will not be able to give his fellow countrymen a 110% effort, so he decides to bow out and let someone else play who will be able to give a full effort. Don't you want the members of Team Sweden all to be healthy and able to give 110%? I'm sure it was a difficult decision for Markus to make. Not one he took lightly. I myself can respect him for that decision. And I'm sorry, but I am just not able to look at it like he is disrespecting his country. I believe he feels he is doing what is best for his country. Why is it selfish for him to do what he feels is best for his country and fellow Swedish teammates?

Just my take.

;)
 
Remy said:
OR you could look at it this way: Näslund realizes that he will not be able to give his fellow countrymen a 110% effort, so he decides to bow out and let someone else play who will be able to give a full effort. Don't you want the members of Team Sweden all to be healthy and able to give 110%? I'm sure it was a difficult decision for Markus to make. Not one he took lightly. I myself can respect him for that decision. And I'm sorry, but I am just not able to look at it like he is disrespecting his country. I believe he feels he is doing what is best for his country. Why is it selfish for him to do what he feels is best for his country and fellow Swedish teammates?

Just my take.


;)

I agree with you take, and I think most swedes also feels this way. To blame him for being injured, not being able to give his all, is just stupid. Now we have a hungry Homer instead of a Naslund going at 80%. I say we win on this.
 
gozar said:
He will come to the olympics and get injured half thru the first game.

well atleast I give him an A for trying to lace it up for his country.
 
Remy said:
Now now, I am not questioning Pete's desire to represent his country in the Olympics. I am fully aware of his commitment to Sweden. All I was questioning was the reason Force gave for Pete's return to the NHL. I myself tend to believe that it was a bit more than just a desire to represent his country in the Olympics. He could have just as well retired from the NHL and stayed with Modo and still been asked by his country to participate in the Olympics. I don't think that there is some underlying rule that states you can only represent your county in the Olympics if you are a current player in the NHL.

Erm Remy, it's not just about getting into the Olympic Team, ist Forsberg we are talking about and the National Teams coach is his Father AFAIK...

It's about playing on the highest level to prepare to have a real chance to win gold!
He simply decided to continue his career at the highest level. And he would not have done that if it wasn't for one more olympic shot at gold... or the Stanley Cup... or both ^^
 
Force said:
ist Forsberg we are talking about and the National Teams coach is his Father AFAIK...
I could be wrong but I don't think Bengt-Ã…ke Gustafsson is Peter Forsberg's father.
 
Force said:
Erm Remy, it's not just about getting into the Olympic Team, ist Forsberg we are talking about and the National Teams coach is his Father AFAIK...

Huh? I thought the coach was Gustafsson. :dunno:


Force said:
It's about playing on the highest level to prepare to have a real chance to win gold! He simply decided to continue his career at the highest level. And he would not have done that if it wasn't for one more olympic shot at gold... or the Stanley Cup... or both ^^

"...the Stanley Cup", exactly! I was trying to suggest that Pete decided to return to the NHL not just because it was an Olympic season as you stated before (please see below), but for other reasons. Like the one you just stated...another shot at the Stanley Cup. That's all I was trying to suggest.

;)

Force said:
...if it were not an olympic season, he propably would not have returned to the NHL at all.
 
Remy said:
OR you could look at it this way: Näslund realizes that he will not be able to give his fellow countrymen a 110% effort, so he decides to bow out and let someone else play who will be able to give a full effort. Don't you want the members of Team Sweden all to be healthy and able to give 110%? I'm sure it was a difficult decision for Markus to make. Not one he took lightly. I myself can respect him for that decision. And I'm sorry, but I am just not able to look at it like he is disrespecting his country. I believe he feels he is doing what is best for his country. Why is it selfish for him to do what he feels is best for his country and fellow Swedish teammates?

Just my take.

;)

He didnt do it for the sake of Sweden, he did it so that he would get time to fully heal so he would be fit come the post season, aka stanley cup.

Come to think of it, he´s stunk it out every chanse hes gotten in the nationalteam, since the WJC a lifetime ago.

He´s got no national pride, and by the looks of it, he hasnt even made an effort the chanses he´s gotten.

We lost a floater and gained a warrior, not a loss in my opinion.
 
Even without both Forsberg and Naslund, I think Sweden still has a chance, as I have the pleasure to watch Lundqvist play each game, and he is that type of goaltender. One who can win games by himself.
 
Starshollow said:
He didnt do it for the sake of Sweden, he did it so that he would get time to fully heal so he would be fit come the post season, aka stanley cup.

Come to think of it, he´s stunk it out every chanse hes gotten in the nationalteam, since the WJC a lifetime ago.

He´s got no national pride, and by the looks of it, he hasnt even made an effort the chanses he´s gotten.

We lost a floater and gained a warrior, not a loss in my opinion.

I do not share your view on Näslund, not even close.

Näslund has been playing injured a while now, he rested 4 days (should have been longer IMO), played one game and still had problems with the skating. If he says he can only go for 80% isn't it better to step aside and let a healthy player take his place?

Or should he play injured, play bad, and get even more crap from swedish media and fans?

I got my hopes up this morning with the first article on Expressen, where it was said that Näslund would play unless the injury got worse. But I fully understand and support his choice to step aside and rest.
 
Starshollow said:
He didnt do it for the sake of Sweden, he did it so that he would get time to fully heal so he would be fit come the post season, aka stanley cup.

And you know this because you are a close and personal friend of his and he told you something like, "To h*ll with Team Sweden, I couldn't give a rat's booty for Sweden, or it's fans! Hmmmph!!" I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you on the subject of Markus' loyalties. I can't tell you how many articles I have read, or how many interviews he has done where he talks about Sweden, his love for Sweden and his desire to raise his children there. Maybe I am going a bit overboard in my defense of Markus, however he happens to be the reason (OK, half the reason) I started following the NHL in the first place. And I happen to think that he is an amazing player, one that I deeply respect.


Starshollow said:
Come to think of it, he´s stunk it out every chanse hes gotten in the nationalteam, since the WJC a lifetime ago.

He´s got no national pride, and by the looks of it, he hasnt even made an effort the chanses he´s gotten.

We lost a floater...
Well then, you really shouldn't have a problem with Näzzy's decision. In fact, you should be all giddy with joy that he won't be representing Sverige in Turin.


Kiefer said:
If he says he can only go for 80% isn't it better to step aside and let a healthy player take his place?

Or should he play injured, play bad, and get even more crap from swedish media and fans?

Thank You! It's almost a d*mn if you do, d*mn if you don't situation for Markus. Look how he is ripped now (by some fans, not all mind you) for his past International showings. Now why would he want to subject himself to that all over again? Especially when he knows that he won't be able to give 100% for his team and would probably end up playing like well, crap. Please give the man a break...please.
 
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