These injuries aren't going to change a thing. With the best possible lineup Sweden hasn't been able to win any important quarterfinal, so a couple of injuries don't matter!
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Big Phil
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I think Naslund and Forsberg pulling out will be a huge blow to Sweden. These are two of the top 10 players in the game. Unfortunately Sweden doesnt have a lot of top end talent. Alfredsson is the next best and he's not too shabby but after that you've got Sundin who clearly has lost a step with the lockout. Lundqvist and Lidstrom better be strong defensively and even for Lidstrom offensively. Sweden lacks depth and having these two out will kill them. I personally hope they play I like seeing the best in the world.
The Kingslayer
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Jazz
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Forsberg is cleared to skate this weekend, so it seems that he will be able to go. The bad news is that eddie snider has voiced his opinion saying that Forsberg should rest on NBC 10 news . I am real mad about that, if Forsberg is healthy in 2 weeks he should be able to play without interference from flyers! Really stupid. I dont see anyone stopping jagr or hasek.
gee all the NHL clubs only try to stop the swedish players.
gee all the NHL clubs only try to stop the swedish players.
MojoJojo
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Force said:
Um, didnt the entire league withdraw from the NHl last year?
Forsberg does havea lot of small nagging injuries, but he isnt the broken down cripple you seem to think he is.
Gozer
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edd1e said:
That's what I used to say, leading to me being brutally beaten down by any swedish hockey fan that happened to hear me.
Gozer
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Force said:His Team? Do you think he identifies with the Flyers or the City of Philadelphia?
Forsberg is almost done. His injuries are not happening at random. Its a natural and logical thing that, if your career is coming to a closure, you want to have one last big sucess and then walk away as a champion.
Forsberg is not the type of guy who can't let loose and retires as a gandfather in a wheelchair in the 4th swedish league
I can guarrantee you that he won't retire if he wins a gold medal. If you think otherwise you really don't know what kind of mindset he has very well. It may have a say in his decision after the season, but not before then.
BBKers
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Forsberg will probably go. He is a stubborn Guy. But Bobby Clarke is a maniac and The Master of The Cheap Shot. Do not underestimate this man. The ingenuity of a plotting maniac can never be exagerated. I am certain he - if motivated - will come up with some pretty shabby ways to keep PF out of The Olympics. Watch and see.
If Team USA had a chance of doing well in the Olympics (which they probably do not this time around) and their best player (maybe the worlds best) had a hampering injury - not too serious but still forcing himn to sit out games, would the GM of an American team (and their owner) act in the same negative way about his participation?
Probably not - but remember that it is all about the money in the NHL. The NHL owners do not give a squat about international hockey - only to try and buy the best players from any country (look at the NHL today - The UN on ice) at the cheapest price and market/sell it as highly priced as possible. Business. Business. Business. (What else is there actually - the owners invest heavily on their teams by buying expensive tools=players - they expect results on their investments as they should).
They do not care about anything else as they are addicted to The Almighty Mammon and play it that way. But the fans go for it and pay those outrageous ticket prices for a few hours - many times mediocre - entertainment. Ty
he hype is addictive like a sharks feeding frenzy. Loyalty to ones country or to ones favourite team is the same - blind faith.
So everybody is actually getting what they deserve in this debate.
Btw - Näslund could be scratched - especially not being 100%. He seems not to have the luck playing on Team Sweden anyway. (I know he had a point last night but...)
Nylander will then replace him in an excellent way
And Holmström must take Hannulas place
If Team USA had a chance of doing well in the Olympics (which they probably do not this time around) and their best player (maybe the worlds best) had a hampering injury - not too serious but still forcing himn to sit out games, would the GM of an American team (and their owner) act in the same negative way about his participation?
Probably not - but remember that it is all about the money in the NHL. The NHL owners do not give a squat about international hockey - only to try and buy the best players from any country (look at the NHL today - The UN on ice) at the cheapest price and market/sell it as highly priced as possible. Business. Business. Business. (What else is there actually - the owners invest heavily on their teams by buying expensive tools=players - they expect results on their investments as they should).
They do not care about anything else as they are addicted to The Almighty Mammon and play it that way. But the fans go for it and pay those outrageous ticket prices for a few hours - many times mediocre - entertainment. Ty
he hype is addictive like a sharks feeding frenzy. Loyalty to ones country or to ones favourite team is the same - blind faith.
So everybody is actually getting what they deserve in this debate.
Btw - Näslund could be scratched - especially not being 100%. He seems not to have the luck playing on Team Sweden anyway. (I know he had a point last night but...)
Nylander will then replace him in an excellent way
And Holmström must take Hannulas place
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gozar said:
i meant that; sorry i didn't make it clear... my point is: if it were not an olympic season, he propably would not have returned to the NHL at all.
MojoJojo
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BBKers said:
Like when Kieth Tkachuk missed the rest of the Olympics in Salt Lake after getting bruised in the thigh?
Sotnos said:
they agreed to a deal to take a break for olympics. simple as that. They can't come now and say the players shouldn't go despite that they can.
SectionX said:
Exactly. They should use this Olympics to promote the NEW NHL in the US. If that doesn't attract any more fans in the US then they should not participate in future Olympics.
Näslunds average in the national team is like 0.9 points per game since he started to play great in the NHL! The problem with Näslund is that he has almost never been in the national team and the last time was World Cup when he sucked. In the 2002 Olympics he was superb together with Sundström and NYlander but unfortunatly they all sucked that day against Belarus. In the 99 worlds he scored 6 goals and 4 assist but since Sweden didn't win, nobody seem to remember this.Rand said:
So I think an average of 0.9 points per game (better than most Swedes) is quite ok.
mattihp
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More important than Forsberg and Näslund being on the team is the form of their MVP, Mats Sundin. He seems to be picking up lately.
Considering Johnsson, Norstrom, Kronvall, Forsberg and Naslund all have dropped out or may drop out, guys like Ragnarsson have declined, and Tallinder, Huselius, Andreas are suspended, what are Sweden's chances?
Zetterberg - Sundin - Alfredsson
Sedin - Sedin - Modin
Holmstrom - Nylander - Ekman
Axelsson - Jonsson - Nilsson
Lidstrom - Jonsson
Tarnstrom - Ohlund
Tjarnqvist - Wallin
Lundqvist
Tellqvist
Zetterberg - Sundin - Alfredsson
Sedin - Sedin - Modin
Holmstrom - Nylander - Ekman
Axelsson - Jonsson - Nilsson
Lidstrom - Jonsson
Tarnstrom - Ohlund
Tjarnqvist - Wallin
Lundqvist
Tellqvist
Well, it seems like Näslund isn't ready to give up on the olympics: http://expressen.se/index.jsp?a=517892
Unless the injury get's worse, he want to play.
Unless the injury get's worse, he want to play.
Kiefer said:
I just wish our guys had the same attitude. Finns are known to be bowing down to authority, so they will just take it when their coaches or GM's tells them not to go. Swedes seem to be more aware of their worth and just tell their employers to shove it. I envy you guys.
danaluvsthekings
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Swedish fans will be glad to know it appears Norstrom will be ok and is supposed to be in the lineup for the Kings/Phoenix game tonight.
He lost 1 tooth, had 4 teeth pushed out of position and his jaw is wired, but he's planning on being in the lineup.
Norstrom said, "It's not really a fractured jaw, but it did knock some teeth back. I'll have braces for a while."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kingrep2feb02,1,2161559.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
He lost 1 tooth, had 4 teeth pushed out of position and his jaw is wired, but he's planning on being in the lineup.
Norstrom said, "It's not really a fractured jaw, but it did knock some teeth back. I'll have braces for a while."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kingrep2feb02,1,2161559.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
danaluvsthekings said:
Toughest player ever.
Ontopic.. If Näslund cant play due to injury, I wouldnt cry myself to sleep.
Its official. Näslund misses the olympics, and Tomas Holmström will replace him.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,772653,00.html
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,772653,00.html
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