Goaltending from the Q

[HuGort]

Sportsnet last night said 4 winningest goalies all-time are Brodeur, Roy, Fleury, Luongo. All from the QMJHL. The 4 greatest drafted over 20 years. Roy in '84, Fleury in '03.

Fleury the last one, drafted 22 years ago. Since then, virtually no big name came out of the Q. How did we go from one extreme to another? It's odd! Points to dramatic change in Quebec hockey.

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[WeThreeKings]

TQS, TVA, RDS, pretty much all Quebec media turned to bashing the Habs for not selecting Francophone talent. Hockey Quebec endorses such behavior because it took the onus off of them from having to actually invest money into player development.

As such, the development system in Quebec is antiquated (even more antiquated than Hockey Canada, which is still shit and antiquated) particularly when it comes to goaltending.

I was beating this drum for years on this board and just got bashed as a hater of Quebecois.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

CHL as a whole doesn't produce goalies.

Q produces even less.

Quebec needs to look into that better, but with the new agreement between the CHL and NCAA the Q and the other CHL leagues might get more quality players which might revitalize the goaltending pool in Canada because of right now it's crap..

 

[Pure Laine]

Hockey Québec is a corrupt organization, as well as completely behind the times. And with less people playing ice hockey, expect even less talent to come out. A shame really.

@WeThreeKings you're completely correct, the media and some of the fanbase bashing the Habs for not drafting locals and therefore being responsible for the low numbers of QC in the league is ridiculous. Habs aren't responsible for the whole dev process from a young age, also, if other teams aren't drafting more from here, it's simply because we're not producing enough talent.

 

[expy]

Canadian goaltending as a whole is just crap now.

 

[ahmedou]

Les Boys

 

[nhlfan9191]

Canadians are poor now and hockey is expensive, especially if you’re a goalie. That’s your answer. The talent pool isn’t what it used to be.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Canadians are poor now and hockey is expensive, especially if you’re a goalie. That’s your answer. The talent pool isn’t what it used to be.

Quebecois are just a little more poor than some canadians like Ontario, BC and Alberta, Sask. What's happening with quebecois will be followed by canadians. The tariffs will accelerate this. And new canadians are not hockey fans. I don't blame them, anyway it's a injury dangerous and expensive sport. Soccer you only need one ballon and a pair of running shoes. And the toxic environment of the hockey coaches as well documented.

 

[rickthegoon]

The biggest problem with hockey development in Quebec started about 20 years ago with the creation of multiple structures where parents were given the opportunity to pay for leagues where their kids are all of a sudden AAA caliber.
From that point on, the caliber was highly diluted and elite players were not playing against elite players anymore.
It’s pretty simple to understand.
Instead of having your best players in one league, they are spread out across multiple leagues, therefore playing against weaker opposition.

 

[Andrei79]

The biggest problem with hockey development in Quebec started about 20 years ago with the creation of multiple structures where parents were given the opportunity to pay for leagues where their kids are all of a sudden AAA caliber.
From that point on, the caliber was highly diluted and elite players were not playing against elite players anymore.
It’s pretty simple to understand.
Instead of having your best players in one league, they are spread out across multiple leagues, therefore playing against weaker opposition.

I find the development hasnt changed either. Not enough focus on learning the proper skating or stickhandling mechanics. Not enough practice time. No real technical support from Hockey Quebec. It would be nice if every region and sub-region would have skill specialists that could support coaches from all levels. You have midget B players that have never learned proper hockey structure, even simple breakout schemes. If you listen to coaching conferences from hockey USA they are way, way ahead of us. There's no innovation here and there's also a very clear structural problem. Thibault had to resign before he could even implement anything due to the power of local associations and their resistance to change.

I wouldn't even say its a money problem as Quebec still churns out athletes in a other sports at a respectable pace, including sports with a super high entry barrier.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

FWIW, goaltending has become very specialized and technical, arguably more so than any other position, so it's a tougher bar to clear than it used to be even in the early 2000s. That and it's a big guy position more than ever now and 6ft3+ super talented athletes are rarer by default, it's a very small pool of the population.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Canada became hockey inc and the number of families with the disposable income to fund an elite goaltender development is low

What if Price dad did not own a plane? A couple less gold medals for Canada.

 

[schwang26]

Quebecois are just a little more poor than some canadians like Ontario, BC and Alberta, Sask. What's happening with quebecois will be followed by canadians. The tariffs will accelerate this. And new canadians are not hockey fans. I don't blame them, anyway it's a injury dangerous and expensive sport. Soccer you only need one ballon and a pair of running shoes. And the toxic environment of the hockey coaches as well documented.

No wonder soccer is so slow and boring. They play with a balloon!

A Stanley cup champion team in Quebec might help change this trend.

 

[schwang26]

CHL as a whole doesn't produce goalies.

Q produces even less.

Quebec needs to look into that better, but with the new agreement between the CHL and NCAA the Q and the other CHL leagues might get more quality players which might revitalize the goaltending pool in Canada because of right now it's crap..

I thought the agreement allowed CHL players to go play in the NCAA? Unless I missed something, that’s not beneficial to the CHL. That hurts them.