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Bleedred said:
Softy of the night, as unanimously agreed upon by everyone, and probably even softy of the year, is this Charlie Lindgren goal on....Charlite Lindgren



Well, actually Brayden Point gets credit for the goal.
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Every time I've seen a goalie do a blind backhand rim around the boards, I always thought to myself one day a goalie will mess up and backhand it into their own net. Finally on Wednesday I got to see it. I was kind of hoping it would of happened in game 7 OT of the SCF, but hey, can't have it all.

Also I love how he flips the puck into the crowd. That's a puck to put on a mantle somewhere for sure.
 
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November 29th, 2024

Devils vs Red Wings: 4 goals against Markstrom, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Talbot, 1 stoppable.

Rangers vs Flyers: 2 goals against Shesterkin, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Fedotov, 0 stoppable.

Blackhawks vs Wild: 3 goals against Mrazek, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Fleury, 0 stoppable.

Canucks vs Sabres: 3 goals against Lankinen, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Luukkonen, 2 stoppable.

Islanders vs Capitals: 5 goals against Varlamov, 2 stoppable. 4 goals against Thompson, 1 stoppable.

Panthers vs Hurricanes: 3 goals against Bobrovsky, 1 stoppable. 5 goals against Martin, 4 stoppable.

Flames vs Blue Jackets: 4 goals against Wolf, 4 stoppable. 2 goals against Merzlikins, 1 stoppable.

Lightning vs Predators: 2 goals against Johansson, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Saros, 0 stoppable.

Kings vs Ducks: 1 goal against Portillo, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Gibson, 0 stoppable.

Kraken vs Sharks: 7 goals against Grubauer, 5 stoppable. 5 goals against Vanecek, 0 stoppable.

Penguins vs Bruins: 1 goal against Jarry, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Swayman, 0 stoppable,

Jets vs Golden Knights: 4 goals against Comrie, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Hill, 1 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Stars: 4 goals against Georgiev, 0 stoppable, 3 goals against Oettinger, 1 stoppable.

Oilers vs Hockey Club: 3 goals against Pickard, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Vejmelka, 3 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 91. Goals stoppable: 31. Percentage of goals stoppable: 34,07%. Combined save percentages: .886%.
 
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Softy of the night is this Jared Spurgeon goal on Petr Mrazek



Just one of what I think were 3 or 4 different goals to go off a goalie’s glove yesterday.
 
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November 30th, 2024

Capitals vs Devils: 5 goals against Lindgren, 0 stoppable. 6 goals against Allen, 2 stoppable.

Canadiens vs Rangers: 4 goals against Montembeault, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Quick, 1 stoppable.

Hurricanes vs Panthers: 5 goals against Martin, 2 stoppable. 1 goal against Perets in relief, 0 stoppable. Knight gets the shutout.

Maple Leafs vs Lightning: 3 goals against Woll, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Vasilevskiy, 3 stoppable.

Flames vs Penguins: 6 goals against Vladar, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Nedeljkovic, 0 stoppable.

Flyers vs Blues: 2 goals against Kolosov, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Binnington, 0 stoppable.

Senators vs Kings: 4 goals against Forsberg, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Rittich, 1 stoppable.

Sabres vs Islanders: 2 goals against Reimer, 0 stoppable. Sorokin gets the shutout.

Predators vs Wild: 3 goals against Saros, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable.

Oilers vs Avalanche: 1 goal against Skinner, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Georgiev, 0 stoppable.

Hockey Club vs Golden Knights: 6 goals against Samsonov, 3 stoppable. Stauber gets the shutout.

Sharks vs Kraken: 2 goals against Blackwood, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Daccord, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 73. Goals stoppable: 17. Percentage of goals stoppable: 23.29%. Combined save percentages: .896%.
 
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Softy of the night is this Alexander Kerfoot goal on Ilya Samsonov



I can’t remember if it was earlier this year or last year, but Samsonov did this same exact thing last year and got scored on because. I’m pretty sure it was last year though.
 
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Bleedred said:
November 30th, 2024

Capitals vs Devils: 5 goals against Lindgren, 0 stoppable. 6 goals against Allen, 2 stoppable.

Canadiens vs Rangers: 4 goals against Montembeault, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Quick, 1 stoppable.

Hurricanes vs Panthers: 5 goals against Martin, 2 stoppable. 1 goal against Perets in relief, 0 stoppable. Knight gets the shutout.

Maple Leafs vs Lightning: 3 goals against Woll, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Vasilevskiy, 3 stoppable.

Flames vs Penguins: 6 goals against Vladar, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Nedeljkovic, 0 stoppable.

Flyers vs Blues: 2 goals against Kolosov, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Binnington, 0 stoppable.

Senators vs Kings: 4 goals against Forsberg, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Rittich, 1 stoppable.

Sabres vs Islanders: 2 goals against Reimer, 0 stoppable. Sorokin gets the shutout.

Predators vs Wild: 3 goals against Saros, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable.

Oilers vs Avalanche: 1 goal against Skinner, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Georgiev, 0 stoppable.

Hockey Club vs Golden Knights: 6 goals against Samsonov, 3 stoppable. Stauber gets the shutout.

Sharks vs Kraken: 2 goals against Blackwood, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Daccord, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 73. Goals stoppable: 17. Percentage of goals stoppable: 23.29%. Combined save percentages: .896%.
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So if Allen doesn’t give up two bad ones NJ should have won. That’s as fair as any evaluation of last night’s game. Allen didn’t lose the game but he didn’t win it either.
 
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December 1st, 2024

Canucks vs Red Wings: 4 goals against Lankinen, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Talbot, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Husso in relief, 3 stoppable.

Canadiens vs Bruins: 5 goals against Primeau, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Swayman, 1 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Blackhawks: 3 goals against Merzlikins, 0 stoppable. 5 goals against Mrazek, 2 stoppable.

Jets vs Stars: 2 goals against Hellebuyck, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Oettinger, 1 stoppable.

Senators vs Ducks: 3 goals against Ullmark, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Dostal, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 34. Goals stoppable: 10. Percentage of goals stoppable: 29.41%. Combined save percentages: .890%.
 
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December 2nd, 2024

Devils vs Rangers: 1 goal against Markstrom, 0 stoppable. 5 goals against Shesterkin, 3 stoppable.

Blackhawks vs Maple Leafs: 3 goals against Soderblom, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Stolarz, 0 stoppable.

Stars vs Hockey Club: 1 goal against DeSmith, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Vejmelka, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 13. Goals stoppable: 5. Percentage of goals stoppable: 38.46%. Combined save percentages: .924%.
 
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Dialamo said:
@Bleedred Would you count Laine's first goal vs the Islanders as stoppable?
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I gave Sorokin a goal stoppable for it, if not only because it wasn’t one timed and he was in position for it and it goes right over his glove.

It’s a very forgivable goal on the goalie though.
 
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December 2nd, 2024

Red Wings vs Bruins: 3 goals against Husso, 0 stoppable. 2 goal against Korpisalo, 0 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Sabres: 4 goals against Georgiev, 1 stoppable. 5 goals against Luukkonen, 3 stoppable.

Islanders vs Canadiens: 2 goals against Sorokin, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Montembeault, 0 stoppable.

Panthers vs Penguins: 5 goals against Knight, 2 stoppable. 4 goals against Jarry, 0 stoppable.

Sharks vs Capitals: 1 goal against Blackwood, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Thompson, 2 stoppable.

Kraken vs Hurricanes: 2 goals against Daccord, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Kochetkov, 1 stoppable.

Canucks vs Wild: 3 goals against Lankinen, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable.

Blues vs Wild: 1 goal against Hofer, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Hellebuyck, 0 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Flames: 2 goals against Merzlikins, 0 stoppable. Vladar gets the shutout.

Oilers vs Golden Knights: 1 goal against Skinner, 1 stoppable. Hill gets the shutout.

Goals scored against goalies: 47. Goals stoppable: 13. Percentage of goals stoppable: 27.66%. Combined save percentages: .914%.
 
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Sorry, I got the date wrong on the last one. That probably happens more times than I notice. There’s two for December 2nd, but the last one/longer one was for December 3rd.

December 4th, 2024

Predators vs Maple Leafs: 3 goals against Saros, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Woll, 1 stoppable.

Bruins vs Blackhawks: 2 goals against Swayman, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Mrazek, 1 stoppable.

Golden Knights vs Ducks: 1 goal against Samsonov, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Gibson, 0 stoppable.

Stars vs Kings: 3 goals against Oettinger, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Rittich, 2 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 20. Goals stoppable: 5. Percentage of goals stoppable: 25%. Combined save percentages: .899%.
 
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Bleedred said:
Softy of the night is this Warren Foegele goal on Jake Oettinger



Wraparounds suck. Whenever there’s a question on what should be the softy of the night, I always go for the wraparound.
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Sorry man, but this goal is objectively awesome. Great skill down low, great puck possession and protection, and a power move to the front of the net. A real working man's goal, a blue collar worker's dream, a sunbelt slot shot.

Edit: Not that all wraparounds are great... just this one is nice to me.
 
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DumbManHockey said:
Sorry man, but this goal is objectively awesome. Great skill down low, great puck possession and protection, and a power move to the front of the net. A real working man's goal, a blue collar worker's dream, a sunbelt slot shot.

Edit: Not that all wraparounds are great... just this one is nice to me.
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It might be a nice goal, but wraparounds are almost always on the goalie and I can tell you from doing this every night wraparounds are not common around the league in this current day and age. Sometimes I only see one or two a week in the entire league. And I've sometimes went a week or more without seeing a single, true wraparound goal.

Those goals from the goal line at really bad angles that squeak either through the goalie or through the goalie and the post are much more common goals, despite a lot of people thinking those are real stinkers. And they're still bad, but I almost never give them the softy of the night because of how common they are. Unless it's by default because there's nothing else worthy to choose from.

Now if a goalie allows a goal on a wraparound that went off a skate or shinpad or it was an own goal or something, then I don't count it as a stoppable goal on the goalie, but these clean ones I do. And with not much to choose from for my nightly softy of the night (fluky Marchessault goal was one I gave Woll a stoppable goal for, but I couldn't give it softy of the night) the wraparound won.

That doesn't mean I think you're wrong that Foegele showed great skill down low, great puck possession and protection. I agree with you.
 
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Bleedred said:
It might be a nice goal, but wraparounds are almost always on the goalie and I can tell you from doing this every night wraparounds are not common around the league in this current day and age. Sometimes I only see one or two a week in the entire league. And I've sometimes went a week or more without seeing a single, true wraparound goal.

Those goals from the goal line at really bad angles that squeak either through the goalie or through the goalie and the post are much more common goals, despite a lot of people thinking those are real stinkers. And they're still bad, but I almost never give them the softy of the night because of how common they are. Unless it's by default because there's nothing else worthy to choose from.

Now if a goalie allows a goal on a wraparound that went off a skate or shinpad or it was an own goal or something, then I don't count it as a stoppable goal on the goalie, but these clean ones I do. And with not much to choose from for my nightly softy of the night (fluky Marchessault goal was one I gave Woll a stoppable goal for, but I couldn't give it softy of the night) the wraparound won.

That doesn't mean I think you're wrong that Foegele showed great skill down low, great puck possession and protection. I agree with you.
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I was actually thinking about this yesterday before I saw your response. I think that it's not mutually exclusive for a goal to be a softie and awesome. This goal is both awesome for it's lead up and soft in its end.

Fair enough
 
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December 5th, 2024

Jets vs Sabres: 2 goals against Hellebuyck, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Luukkonen, 1 stoppable.

Predators vs Canadiens: 2 goals against Annunen, 2 stoppable. Montembeault gets the shutout.

Red Wings vs Senators: 2 goals against Husso, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Ullmark, 0 stoppable.

Sharks vs Lightning: 5 goals against Vanecek, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Blackwood in relief, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Vasilevskiy, 0 stoppable.

Panthers vs Flyers: 5 goals against Knight, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Fedotov, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Fedotov in relief, 1 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Hurricanes: 4 goals against Wedgewood, 2 stoppable. 3 goals against Kochetkov, 1 stoppable.

Kraken vs Islanders: 2 goals against Daccord, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Sorokin, 0 stoppable.

Blues vs Flames: 3 goals against Binnington, 2 stoppable. 4 goals against Vladar, 2 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Oilers: 6 goals against Tarasov, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Pickard, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 59. Goals stoppable: 19. Percentage of goals stoppable: 32.20%. Combined save percentages: .886%.
 
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December 5th, 2024

Jets vs Sabres: 2 goals against Hellebuyck, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Luukkonen, 1 stoppable.

Predators vs Canadiens: 2 goals against Annunen, 2 stoppable. Montembeault gets the shutout.

Red Wings vs Senators: 2 goals against Husso, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Ullmark, 0 stoppable.

Sharks vs Lightning: 5 goals against Vanecek, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Blackwood in relief, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Vasilevskiy, 0 stoppable.

Panthers vs Flyers: 5 goals against Knight, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Fedotov, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Fedotov in relief, 1 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Hurricanes: 4 goals against Wedgewood, 2 stoppable. 3 goals against Kochetkov, 1 stoppable.

Kraken vs Islanders: 2 goals against Daccord, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Sorokin, 0 stoppable.

Blues vs Flames: 3 goals against Binnington, 2 stoppable. 4 goals against Vladar, 2 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Oilers: 6 goals against Tarasov, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Pickard, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 59. Goals stoppable: 19. Percentage of goals stoppable: 32.20%. Combined save percentages: .886%.
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The Avs are going to be in the goalie market again.
 
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December 6th, 2024

Kraken vs Devils: 3 goals against Grubauer, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Markstrom, 1 stoppable.

Capitals vs Maple Leafs: 1 goal against Lindgren, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Stolarz, 0 stoppable.

Penguins vs Rangers: 4 goals against Nedeljkovic, 4 stoppable. 2 goals against Shesterkin, 1 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Canucks: 4 goals against Merzlikins, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Lankinen, 1 stoppable.

Stars vs Golden Knights: 3 goals against Oettinger, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Hill, 0 stoppable.

Wild vs Ducks: 1 goal against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Gibson, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 30. Goals stoppable: 11. Percentage of goals stoppable: 36.68%. Combined save percentages: .909%.
 
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