Goals against review thread

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Softy of the night is this JJ Peterka goal on Arvid Soderblom

 

[sabremike]

Softy of the night is this JJ Peterka goal on Arvid Soderblom

I was literally going to @ you in our GameDay thread when that happened.

 

[njdevils1982]

I was literally going to @ you in our GameDay thread when that happened.

oh man. the goat head jerseys...i forgot they were back for this season

baaaad......baaaad

 

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I’ll make the reviews up over the nexf few days.

I’m screwed with these.

I’ve reviewed 3 of the games through ESPN+ on demand replays, but I’m currently in North Carolina and can’t watch the Canes on demand one right now cause it’s in market lol.

The NHL has screwed everybody with this bullshit.

I’ll wait until I can review the goals from the Red Wings/Canes game to complete Friday’s review. It makes no sense to review the 3 other games and do just 1 make up later.

And it’ll be fun when I get back to Florida and can’t review those games because I’m blacked out.

The replays usually work after a day or two when you’re in market, so I’ll eventually get to them.

I’m not gonna let this garbage and worthless league end these reviews because they decided to go all Lars Ulrich on Napster with these game highlights.

Go f*** yourself NHL. You won’t win this one.

 

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Annddddd we’re rolling

January 19th, 2024

Devils vs Blue Jackets: 1 goal against Vanecek, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Merzlikins, 1 stoppable.

Red Wings vs Hurricanes: 3 goals against Lyon, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Raanta, 1 stoppable.

Wild vs Panthers: 1 goal against Fleury, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Gustavsson in relief, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Bobrovsky, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Stolarz in relief, 0 stoppable.

Islanders vs Blackhawks: 4 goals against Sorokin, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Mrazek, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 26. Goals stoppable: 8. Percentage of goals stoppable: 30.77%. Combined save percentages: .880%.

 

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Softy of the night is the Klim Kostin goal on Antti Raanta

Apparently video does not exist of this goal…..

But it happens around 12 seconds into this video

 

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January 20th, 2024

Stars vs Devils: 2 goals against Wedgewood, 0 stoppable. 6 goals against Daws, 1 stoppable.

Lightning vs Sabres: 1 goal against Johansson, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Luukkonen, 1 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Flyers: 4 goals against Georgiev, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Hart, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Ersson in relief, 1 stoppable.

Predators vs Coyotes: 3 goals against Saros, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Ingram, 1 stoppable.

Jets vs Senators: 1 goal against Hellebuyck, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Korpisalo, 2 stoppable.

Canadiens vs Bruins: 8 goals against Montembeault, 2 stoppable. 1 goal against Primeau in relief, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Ullmark, 0 stoppable.

Maple Leafs vs Canucks: 6 goals against Jones, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Demko, 2 stoppable.

Capitals vs Blues: 3 goals against Lindgren, 2 stoppable. Binnington gets the shutout.

Oilers vs Flames: 1 goal against Skinner, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Vladar, 0 stoppable.

Ducks vs Sharks: 4 goals against Gibson, 2 stoppable. 3 goals against Blackwood, 2 stoppable.

Penguins vs Golden Knights: 3 goals against Jarry, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Thompson, 2 stoppable.

Rangers vs Kings: 2 goals against Quick, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Rittich, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 73. Goals stoppable: 25. Percentage of goals stoppable: 34.25%. Combined save percentages: .892%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Jan Rutta goal on John Gibson

 

[My3Sons]

So Blackwood only gave up two stoppable? How great would he be in NJ right now? You just know he’d be single handedly keeping NJ afloat in these tough games. He’s so emotionally solid and reliable. And he can treat players in his medical clinic after games as well.

 

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January 21st, 2024

Senators vs Flyers: 3 goals against Sogaard, 2 stoppable. 4 goals against Ersson, 0 stoppable.

Wild vs Hurricanes: 2 goals against Gustavsson, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Raanta, 1 stoppable.

Lightning vs Red Wings: 2 goals against Vasilevskiy, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Lyon, 0 stoppable.

Stars vs Islanders: 3 goals against Wedgewood, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Sorokin, 1 stoppable.

Rangers vs Ducks: 2 goals against Shesterkin, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Dostal, 1 stoppable.

Maple Leafs vs Kraken: 1 goal against Samsonov, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Daccord, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 29. Goals stoppable: 8. Percentage of goals stoppable: 27.59%. Combined save percentages: .915%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Egor Zamula goal on Mads Sogaard



Goalie looks more clueless than anybody on this play. Now that Sogaard is back up to the NHL playing games again, I expect some good softy of the night fodder that wasn’t there for much of the season so far.

 

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January 22nd, 2024

Golden Knights vs Devils: 6 goals against Thompson, 3 stoppable. 5 goals against Vanecek, 1 stoppable.

Jets vs Bruins: 3 goals against Hellebuyck, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Swayman, 0 stoppable.

Panthers vs Predators: 1 goal against Stolarz. 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Saros, 1 stoppable.

Penguins vs Coyotes: 4 goals against Jarry, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Ingram, 1 stoppable.

Blackhawks vs Canucks: 2 goals against Mrazek, 1 stoppable. Demko gets the shutout.

Sharks vs Kings: 3 goals against Kahkonen, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Rittich, 2 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 32. Goals stoppable: 9. Percentage of goals stoppable: 28.13%. Combined save percentages: .911%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Tyler Toffoli goal on Logan Thompson



This one was so bad. One of the Lazar goals may have been even worse.

 

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January 23rd, 2024

Stars vs Red Wings: 4 goals against Oettinger, 1 stoppable. 5 goals against Lyon, 3 stoppable.

Senators vs Canadiens: 1 goal against Korpisalo, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Allen, 1 stoppable.

Lightning vs Flyers: 3 goals against Vasilevskiy, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Ersson, 0 stoppable.

Golden Knights vs Islanders: 2 goals against Hill, 2 stoppable. 3 goals against Sorokin, 1 stoppable.

Capitals vs Wild: 5 goals against Kuemper, 3 stoppable. 3 goals against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable.

Blues vs Flames: 3 goals against Binnington, 3 stoppable. 4 goals against Markstrom, 3 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Oilers: 4 goals against Merzlikins, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Skinner, 0 stoppable.

Sabres vs Ducks: 3 goals against Luukkonen, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Gibson, 0 stoppable.

Rangers vs Sharks: 3 goals against Shesterkin, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Blackwood, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 55. Goals stoppable: 18. Percentage of goals stoppable: 32.72%. Combined save percentages: .898%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Brandon Saad goal on Jacob Markstrom



I know it deflected a bit and dipped, but I thought this was a really bad one.

One thing I have to say about Markstrom. He’s been on the wrong end of some poor OT winners the last couple years. This one was very late in regulation.

 

[My3Sons]

January 23rd, 2024

Stars vs Red Wings: 4 goals against Oettinger, 1 stoppable. 5 goals against Lyon, 3 stoppable.

Senators vs Canadiens: 1 goal against Korpisalo, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Allen, 1 stoppable.

Lightning vs Flyers: 3 goals against Vasilevskiy, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Ersson, 0 stoppable.

Golden Knights vs Islanders: 2 goals against Hill, 2 stoppable. 3 goals against Sorokin, 1 stoppable.

Capitals vs Wild: 5 goals against Kuemper, 3 stoppable. 3 goals against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable.

Blues vs Flames: 3 goals against Binnington, 3 stoppable. 4 goals against Markstrom, 3 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Oilers: 4 goals against Merzlikins, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Skinner, 0 stoppable.

Sabres vs Ducks: 3 goals against Luukkonen, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Gibson, 0 stoppable.

Rangers vs Sharks: 3 goals against Shesterkin, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Blackwood, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 55. Goals stoppable: 18. Percentage of goals stoppable: 32.72%. Combined save percentages: .898%.

No stoppable goals for Blackwood who just stands strong against the NYR. Guy is a rock and so steady.

 

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January 24th, 2024

Coyotes vs Panthers: 6 goals against Vejmelka, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Bobrovsky, 0 stoppable.

Jets vs Maple Leafs: 1 goal against Brossoit, 0 stoppable. Samsonov gets the shutout.

Hurricanes vs Bruins: 2 goals against Martin, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Ullmark, 1 stoppable.

Capitals vs Avalanche: 6 goals against Lindgren, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Georgiev, 0 stoppable.

Blackhawks vs Kraken: 6 goals against Soderblom, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Daccord, 0 stoppable.

Blues vs Canucks: 3 goals against Hofer, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against DeSmith, 1 stoppable.

Sabres vs Kings: 3 goals against Levi, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Talbot, 3 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 45. Goals stoppable: 12. Percentage of goals stoppable: 26.67%. Combined save percentages: .898%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Dylan Cozens goal on Cam Talbot

 

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January 25th, 2024

Devils vs Hurricanes: 3 goals against Daws, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Raanta, 0 stoppable.

Flyers vs Red Wings: 3 goals against Ersson, 0 stoppable. Lyon gets the shutout.

Islanders vs Canadiens: 4 goals against Varlamov, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Montembeault, 1 stoppable.

Bruins vs Senators: 2 goals against Swayman, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Korpisalo, 2 stoppable.

Coyotes vs Lightning: 6 goals against Ingram, 2 stoppable. 3 goals against Vasilevskiy, 0 stoppable.

Ducks vs Stars: 4 goals against Gibson, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Oettinger, 1 stoppable.

Predators vs Wild: 2 goals against Saros, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Gustavsson, 1 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Flames: 2 goals against Tarasov, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Markstrom, 2 stoppable.

Blackhawks vs Oilers: 2 goals against Mrazek, 0 stoppable. Pickard gets the shutout.

Goals scored against goalies: 49. Goals stoppable: 12. Percentage of goals stoppable: 24.49%. Combined save percentages: .906%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Urho Vaakanainen goal on Jake Oettinger

 

[My3Sons]

Softy of the night is this Urho Vaakanainen goal on Jake Oettinger

Oettinger seems to be a bit up and down this season? I thought he was rounding into a top goalie last season

 

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Oettinger seems to be a bit up and down this season? I thought he was rounding into a top goalie last season

I think he's been overrated.

And it's not that he's not good, it's just that he's not GREAT. He's never been GREAT. He's been solid to good, just never great. Most of advanced numbers aren't anything fantastic.

The two things that really seem to make him get overrated are his age and the fact that last year he showed a tremendous ability to be a real workhorse goalie. At least by today's standards. He only just turned 25 a month ago and he's a legit starting goalie already, but I don't really think he's elite, which is fine, because there's not many goalies at all in current day that I really think can be considered elite. One thing that also gets him a lot of praise is how he almost stole the playoff series against the Flames in 2022 and stood on his head. His playoff numbers last year over 3 rounds were as dreadful as his numbers were good in one round the year before.

He's not been terrible this year, playing a little below expected on both moneypuck and evolving hockey (I hate the natural stat trick website layout right out of 1996, so I don't feel like looking him up on their site), he's a little closer to breaking even on evolving hockey for this year.

Before this year is interesting. Evolving hockey has him at a +21.65 GSAx for the 22-23 season, which is REALLY good, but moneypuck has him at just a +11.9 GSAx and only a +0.194 per 60 minutes. Wedgewood's numbers were better, BUT...... I think Oettinger's mean much more, as he played 62 games to Wedgewood's 21. That's the Marty Brodeur vs Corey Schwab thing in regards to who played MUCH more.

For Oettinger's 21-22 moneypuck has him at just a +1,4 GSAx and only a + 0,03 GSAx per 60 in 48 games played. Holtby (who was old and years into decline and never played again after that) had very similar numbers on that same team that year in 24 games. And evolving hockey only has him at a 0.51 GSAx for that season. Those are barely breaking above even, but it's remarkable he played 48 games as a 22-23 year old.

He's a negative on both sites in 20-21, but that was as a 22 year old.

His underlying numbers are considerably better than Wedgewood for this year on both sites.

 

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By the way, Oettinger has very favorable numbers in my data in the regular season (I have his playoff stuff too, but only peeked the regular season numbers) every year (including this season) but 21-22. I’ve had him around 22%-25% goals stoppable all but the 21-22 season where I have him close to 32.5% if I looked at these numbers and divided them by his actual goals against count properly.

And I think they’re much better off with him back in the lineup than Wedgewood.

Wedgewood has been fine as Oettinger’s backup, but he was not getting it done in Oettinger’s absence. Not at all.

Wedgewood has ugly numbers this year. Not Vitek level bad, but definitely Schmid level.

Though I bet if we could differentiate his play from before Oettinger got hurt to while Oettinger was hurt it’s probably Vitek level numbers.

 

[My3Sons]

By the way, Oettinger has very favorable numbers in my data in the regular season (I have his playoff stuff too, but only peeked the regular season numbers) every year (including this season) but 21-22. I’ve had him around 22%-25% goals stoppable all but the 21-22 season where I have him close to 32.5% if I looked at these numbers and divided them by his actual goals against count properly.

And I think they’re much better off with him back in the lineup than Wedgewood.

Wedgewood has been fine as Oettinger’s backup, but he was not getting it done in Oettinger’s absence. Not at all.

Wedgewood has ugly numbers this year. Not Vitek level bad, but definitely Schmid level.

Though I bet if we could differentiate his play from before Oettinger got hurt to while Oettinger was hurt it’s probably Vitek level numbers.

Oettinger also plays behind a very sound defensive team. I don’t how how that can be quantified but it helps in some level.

 

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Oettinger also plays behind a very sound defensive team. I don’t how how that can be quantified but it helps in some level.

It was probably even more sound defensively (but it's still pretty sound defensively) during the Bowness years, his first two seasons in the league.

Which is why his numbers were probably poor in year one (even though his save percentage wasn't) and his numbers weren't spectacular in year two, though his save percentage was considerably above the league average.