Post-Game Talk: [GM33] Canucks lost to Senators | 4-5 OT | Boeser(2), Hughes, & DeBrusk | We Suck In OT

[racerjoe]

There was another play that summed up our defense and what it was like for our fwds. It just stood out so much but was par for the course.

The puck was shot in, and I think it was Garland who gets the puck to Pettersson just below the hash mark. He had a defender on him and he makes a great play to delay and by himself some time. Pass the puck to the point and I think it was fortbort who has it on the right point. He has so much time. He passes the puck tape to tape to their defender on the opposite hash marks. Shorty said he was trying to pass to I think debrusk, in the middle of the ice, but he had a guy on him and pass was no where near him.

It was just such a momentum killer, and I seriously don’t know how you pass that bad. In my men’s league guys don’t pass that bad.

 

[FuzzyTitus]

There was another play that summed up our defense and what it was like for our fwds. It just stood out so much but was par for the course.

The puck was shot in, and I think it was Garland who gets the puck to Pettersson just below the hash mark. He had a defender on him and he makes a great play to delay and by himself some time. Pass the puck to the point and I think it was fortbort who has it on the right point. He has so much time. He passes the puck tape to tape to their defender on the opposite hash marks. Shorty said he was trying to pass to I think debrusk, in the middle of the ice, but he had a guy on him and pass was no where near him.

It was just such a momentum killer, and I seriously don’t know how you pass that bad. In my men’s league guys don’t pass that bad.

I haven't watch too many games this year but I had this same impression. Forbort, Juulsen, and Myers couldn't make a tape to tape pass to save their life. I thought Desharnais actually played pretty well.

 

[Kickassguy]

Not gonna spend too much time on the game itself. Thought Forbort killed plays every time the puck came his way, Desharnais is taking baby steps forward, Blueger and Sherwood continue to be models of consistency in a positive way.

What the Canucks PR department is doing (or more aptly, is NOT doing) is completely unfathomable to me. A thorough master class in how NOT to handle a situation like this.

How the **** do you send Petey out there without letting him know what to expect in terms of questions, without giving him a simple boilerplate answer to lower the temperature, without telling him that storming off like that is literally the worst way to respond to the situation? In my line of work this would be a fireable offense at the publicity/PR level.

It's not ****ing hard. Send Petey and JT out TOGETHER next post-game opportunity. Coach them up to handle a few questions, let them joke it off, smile for the cameras once or twice, and dial things down a bit. This isn't ****ing rocket science.

Amateur hour stuff from an organization that should know its market so much better than this.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

well this seems to be the issue, right? No-one appears to have told/warned EP and JT that the coach told the media to speak to EP and JT about it. Obviously JT hasn't even shown up which isn't good enough but is hardly surprising

It seems post-JT's leave, the team's official position has changed on this whole thing: what has previously been hinted upon and likely dismissed by the team as a nothing burger is now canon - JT and EP have problems. That's probably why Friedman has brought it into the spotlight, he got permission to do so, and now everyone else can talk about it. Ok, whatever, I don't have a view point on that. But the team doing that but seemingly not warning JT and EP that this was going to happen feels like a risky strategy to me. Surely someone in the PR team could have fed JT and EP some lines to say in response to questions that the team has, essentially, given the green light to be asked to them

i don’t have a lot of tocchet complaints but this is one

same thing happened last year in the depths of petey’s struggles while everyone else was rolling. just left him out there postgame to let him answer questions about his mediocre play thinking he could be embarrassed into shaping up.

this is boomer dad (or 90s high school teacher?) logic. you guys are having an issue i can’t control, i’m going to hang you both out to dry publicly and you two can work it out. predictably, he got a high school student result: one guy got frustrated and walked away, the other didn’t even show up.

 

[strattonius]

i don’t have a lot of tocchet complaints but this is one

same thing happened last year in the depths of petey’s struggles while everyone else was rolling. just left him out there postgame to let him answer questions about his mediocre play thinking he could be embarrassed into shaping up.

this is boomer dad (or 90s high school teacher?) logic. you guys are having an issue i can’t control, i’m going to hang you both out to dry publicly and you two can work it out. predictably, he got a high school student result: one guy got frustrated and walked away, the other didn’t even show up.

Oh poor Petey had to answer questions from the media now! That awful boomer dad Tocchet better start protecting him from all these questions!

 

[rypper]

Oh poor Petey had to answer questions from the media now! That awful boomer dad Tocchet better start protecting him from all these questions!

At least he showed up.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Oh poor Petey had to answer questions from the media now! That awful boomer dad Tocchet better start protecting him from all these questions!

Those are bold judgments to make with so little information.

 

[strattonius]

At least he showed up.

Miller played like shit.

Pettersson handles his emotions in the media like a 14 yr old.

Both can be true.

Those are bold judgments to make with so little information.

Are you talking to me or who I'm replying to?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Are you talking to me or who I'm replying to?

Honestly, all 3 of us.

 

[rypper]

Miller played like shit.

Pettersson handles his emotions in the media like a 14 yr old.

Both can be true.

I think you could argue that Miller handles his emotions in a similar fashion by not even showing up, when requested, as a part of the teams leadership group. The coach didn't even know where he went lol.

 

[Canucker]

If I were EP and Miller I'd go out and do a Christmas photo shoot together and send it out to the media..."From our Happy Family to yours...Merry Christmas!"...might lighten the mood and give the people some laughs...even if they don't get along it would be worth it just for the "stick it to them" aspect.

 

[strattonius]

I think you could argue that Miller handles his emotions in a similar fashion by not even showing up, when requested, as a part of the teams leadership group. The coach didn't even know where he went lol.

You definitely could.

You jump to the conclusion that because I'm fed up with Pettersson I must be on Miller's side.

I'm fed up with both it's you that's determined to pick a side.

 

[rypper]

You definitely could.

You jump to the conclusion that because I'm fed up with Pettersson I must be on Miller's side.

I'm fed up with both it's you that's determined to pick a side.

Nah, I'm fed up too, but I just give Pettersson the smallest bit more credit for standing in there and taking the questions when you know he definitely didn't want to be there.

 

[Quinning]

Allvin and Rutherford have unfortunately made a series of errors in judgment, which have largely undone the progress from last season. The defence is a f***ing shitshow.

Unfortunately, I think we're seeing the final days of this core remaining intact. Something happened between Miller and Pettersson a few months ago that has turned what seemed like a fairly tight locker room into a dysfunctional mess.

At no point should they even consider trading an unprotected 1st, because this could easily go off the rails with the bulk of our remaining schedule being challenging hockey.

 

[DFAC]

Went to the game last night with some buddies. Was surprised by how full the place was but to be fair it was a Saturday night

Some thoughts:

1) Its even more obvious in person just how much better Hughes is than anyone on the ice (for both teams last night). He's just electric every time he touches the puck. No one even came close to having an impact on the game like he does - does everything. If only we could clone him 22 times to ice a full team.

2) Sherwood, Blueger and Garland stood out - noticeable in a good way

3) Rest of the team is just... there? Petey and JT were pretty invisible. Team just doesn't have the compete or intensity needed. They picked it up in the 3rd but the first 2 were pretty slow. Team had only 13 shots through 2 periods of play (wtf?)

4) Too much dump and chase hockey.. beginning to think it's just as much a systems issue as it is a personnel (defence) issue. Tocchet needs to shoulder some of the blame here. Nothing he's doing is seemingly working

Anyways, was still a fun night all in all.

 

[B-rock]

Not gonna spend too much time on the game itself. Thought Forbort killed plays every time the puck came his way, Desharnais is taking baby steps forward, Blueger and Sherwood continue to be models of consistency in a positive way.

What the Canucks PR department is doing (or more aptly, is NOT doing) is completely unfathomable to me. A thorough master class in how NOT to handle a situation like this.

How the **** do you send Petey out there without letting him know what to expect in terms of questions, without giving him a simple boilerplate answer to lower the temperature, without telling him that storming off like that is literally the worst way to respond to the situation? In my line of work this would be a fireable offense at the publicity/PR level.

It's not ****ing hard. Send Petey and JT out TOGETHER next post-game opportunity. Coach them up to handle a few questions, let them joke it off, smile for the cameras once or twice, and dial things down a bit. This isn't ****ing rocket science.

Amateur hour stuff from an organization that should know its market so much better than this.

That was apparently the plan but JT fkd off somewhere instead