Line Combos: GM/Coaching criticism

[All Mod Cons]

Who are some GM and coach candidates if these 2 clowns are let go

Laurel and Hardy

 

[fahad203]

My only criticism of Dubas was deferring away from the plan and going after 'grit'. The deadline especially, I was vocal about the Foligno acquisition and not getting Hall. We knew Montreal would try and play a coinflip game, and adding more elite skill (which you can never have too much of) was the move. I'm not against grit, but they should be able to be effective. In Game 2, Simmonds had a great response game and was being physical - Game 3-7? Nowhere.

Keefe.... there's definitely a lot.
- No balls to scratch Thornton
- Thornton on PP for way too long
- PP in general (+Malholtra)
- Keeping Marner and Matthews together
I'm sure there's much more.

your best forward entire series was Spezza and Nylander...... Engvall last night had more ice time than Spezza
Simmonds was 40 seconds behind Spezza in ice time

He had the hot hands, why didn't you play him more? especially on PP with Matthews?

Like I don't get it................

 

[DarkKnight]

If true for sure, totally agree

But I don't buy anything Dreger says, I'm listening to him and he sounds like he's doing damage control for the players he has relationships with

Foligno sure looked like had something going on from the moment he arrived.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

I don't have much criticism for Keefe. I didn't want Marner on the top powerplay unit after the 2nd game, its clear he's a large part of the problem. Give him the 2nd unit, let him dance around by himself. Didn't understand just giving Riley Nash a spot in the lineup when nobody played themselves off. Nylander probably should have been on the top line for game 6 and 7 the whole time, given the lack of scoring. And I don't understand his usage of Joe Thornton at all. He didn't play Joe at all in Overtime, if you don't trust a player in overtime of a playoff game, then why play him at all?

 

[CapspaceKiller]

Foligno sure looked like had something going on from the moment he arrived.

He definitely looked bad in the playoffs health-wise, not sure he was injured the moment they acquired him. Maybe, maybe not. But like you said, if they traded a 1st for an injured player, Dubas needs to be called out for that.

 

[killer1980]

This is what corporations (and politicians) do when they make a mistake, rather than rectify the problem, they dig in, defend and make excuses. Dubas and Shanahan will stay and the Leafs will drift deeper into the abyss.

 

[Aus34Matt]

Failing miserably so far but people will continue to buy his bs.

They may get rid of him when it's too late, he will find another organization to build his next "process" telling the fans we-can-and-we-will.

He truly is a boy genius.

 

[rumman]

When the team was doing well with these veterans and grit this season, there were people saying Shanahan took control and added needed elements. Now when it fell apart, people are after Dubas?
Just goes to show people will shift goal posts to blame Dubas.

It’s on both of them, they both are inexperienced and both deserve to go, or is it still the fans fault for “wanting grit?”

 

[sxvnert]

This is what corporations (and politicians) do when they make a mistake, rather than rectify the problem, they dig in, defend and make excuses. Dubas and Shanahan will stay and the Leafs will drift deeper into the abyss.

From 2019

 

[stickty111]

CJ said he expects Spezza to be back. There will be consideration to trade Marner. Questions on Keefe's performance in that he played too safe in the series. Would be surprised if Shanny or Dubas were fired.

 

[DueDiligence]

If mcd requests a trade, they ain't gonna get better.

Nonsense

 

[stickty111]

Failing miserably so far but people will continue to buy his bs.

They may get rid of him when it's too late, he will find another organization to build his next "process" telling the fans we-can-and-we-will.

He truly is a boy genius.

Nah he's doing a good job. He did exactly what the fans wanted. Boy genius makes you sound insecure and makes you lose the argument, so thanks.
Hopefully he continues his great work.

 

[centipede2233]

I think he's referring to this: Leafs squandered the gift that was the North Division - Sportsnet.ca

Thanks! Loved everything Kyper said. He was candid and he told it like it is.

 

[realgoodleafs]

I was rooting for the Leafs to beat the Habs, thanks a lot Toronto. Do you know what this means for Montreal? It means Marc Bergevin will not be fired. Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

We'll trade Dubas for Bergevin.

 

[Bomber0104]

Nah he's doing a good job. He did exactly what the fans wanted. Boy genius makes you sound insecure and makes you lose the argument, so thanks.
Hopefully he continues his great work.

 

[Dreakmur]

Nah he's doing a good job. He did exactly what the fans wanted.

He did do a good job.... but if he did anything because the fans wanted it, he should be fired.

 

[Faltorvo]

He did do a good job.... but if he did anything because the fans wanted it, he should be fired.

WHAT???????????? he did a world class CRAP job,,

 

[Faltorvo]

You don’t get to tell everyone they are wrong when the say it’s a bad idea to spend half the cap on 4 forwards.

You don’t get to bet your job on a core that can’t win in the 1st round 5 times in a row.

Have the NHL create arguably the easiest division since the Norris, with a 56 game season, no US teams, no travel outside of Canada.

Play a team that is ranked 18th overall in the NHL first round, be up 3-1 and still lose.

Make franchise money to not score goals.

You don’t get to do all that and keep your job as GM.

DAMN STRAIGHT,,dumbass must go and take keefe with em

 

[Dreakmur]

WHAT???????????? he did a world class CRAP job,,

He made some very costly mistakes along the way, but the overall job he did was good.

Keefe did a lot of damage.

 

[rumman]

Wow, even when faced with reality the delusional narrative continues.....

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Failing miserably so far but people will continue to buy his bs.

They may get rid of him when it's too late, he will find another organization to build his next "process" telling the fans we-can-and-we-will.

He truly is a boy genius.

He is done here though .. it is either him gone OR him and Shanny gone .. not sure how it will go yet

 

[hamzarocks]

Man I'd take Rutherford coming here and winning 2 cups in the next 3 years somehow then proceeding to throw away the next 5 years after that. He'll I'd do it for 1 cup in the next 3 years

He's a guy despite his old age I'dseriousky consider hiring if we fire Dubas.

Rutherford is a better team builder than Dubas and has built 3 cup winners. He's the guy I'd hope we get and he has the ability to make a big trade like Marner

 

[TMLegend]

Some people don't seem to realize GM's are responsible for the teams they ice.
Sure you can say Matthews and Marner underperformed and the depth pieces in Thornton, Simmonds, and Foligno didn't work out and that's on them. But the GM takes some blame as well for acquiring them to begin with.

It's a results oriented business and Dubas is not getting results right now, at least none that ultimately matter.

 

[Aus34Matt]

Nah he's doing a good job. He did exactly what the fans wanted. Boy genius makes you sound insecure and makes you lose the argument, so thanks.
Hopefully he continues his great work.

Dubas ego and awful negotiating ability paying 11M short-term contracts or players who hasn't achieved any NHL success is what you call great work? okayyyy

 

[Faltorvo]

According to kypreos perry begged the leafs to sign, even willing to take minimum, instead they chose simmonds. Shocker

Good job dubas.

probably because of the " muh diversity"